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>In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies and manga publishers, the Japanese government will next month start a huge extermination operation against 580 foreign sites which have illegally uploaded anime and manga contents on the web without the copyright holders' permission, NHK reported on July 28. While the government has started supporting the genre as one of their important cultural exports, there appears to be no end of illegal uploading of anime and manga via pirate sites, mainly operated by Chinese. The Cultural Affairs Agency estimates the loss caused by the Chinese pirate sites last year was amounted to at least 560 billion yen (about US$ 5.5 billion).

>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found. In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen.

>http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/07/28/japanese-government-to-start-anti-animemanga-piracy-operation-next-month
>http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140728/t10013332551000.html

So, are you saving all that Gundam and getting the Pastebins ready?
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They really ought to just offer Bandai Channel overseas.
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>>11149888
It's pretty much just aimed at Chinese sites. Nothing to really be worried about.
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We had this thread
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>>11149903

This. I'd gladly pay for the shows that they're taking down... If that option was made available to me.

>bitch about pirates
>don't even give them a chance to legally obtain material
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>>11149903
>>11149912
But muh Crunchyroll
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>>11149903
>Bandai Channel

This is the first page of stuff that you can watch for 1000 yen ($10) a month when sorted by popularity. Also, almost all shows currently airing at least have the latest episode put up for a week.
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>>11149888
>QUICK! WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY OUR EXTREMELY BLOATED AND OUTDATED PROCESS!
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>>11149919

They don't have *every* show available. Sure, a lot of what's popular and currently airing, but not everything.

>>11149923

That's honestly a really fair price for that much content.
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>>11149908
After the recent exhentai purge I'm not so sure that it will affect only Chinese. Doubt that both events are interconnected but it makes me feel uneasy.
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>But it's up on streaming sites!

Which are region locked and won't let you view content (see Hulu and shit, I have to break the law to watch them so why not pirate?)

Not to mention the libraries still aren't great. I like older material which by its nature won't get put up there; also what happens when we have a situation like Daisuke where they take down series you want to watch? Or places where the internet isn't that great and streaming is difficult (which is more common then you might thing. I typically torrent at one place and bring it back home because my area has really poor internet).
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>>11150074
There's always the IRC for non-gundam stuff, and there's gundaminfo for gundam
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>>11149919
Too bad Crunchyroll is going to always be inferior to fansubbing as a general thing due to the lack of competition.
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>>11149923
That picture of Cowboy Bebop really isn't flattering
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>>11150139
I'm sorry, but you lost me back in 2009 when with a wallet full of cash, I looked online for the shows I wanted to watch to buy and couldn't find ANY OF THEM.

And you know what? The situation hasn't improved.

I'll buy the plastic crack, sure. Model kits and figures, no issue there. But I'm not paying ridiculous prices for a limited selection of shows especially when I know that paying for those shows won't result in more in the vein I enjoy.
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how in the bloody loli-tentacleraping-robot-beamspamming-newtype-pikachu-slapping hell do they calculate losses that they never even made?
They're assuming pirates/streamers will legally buy an anime\manga given the chance (though i'm sure some\many will). And how do they even know how many times something is viewed\downloaded?
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>>11150180

srsly. I have a 600 gb Gundam folder. And every single domestic release except for Superior Defender.
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what are the chances they watch places like 4chan?
can they go after pastebins\mediafire link?
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>Japan thinking they can do what the RIAA and Hollywood couldn't
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like maybe if they stepped up and made cool new things instead of fil?ing everything with moetripe, this wouldn't be a problem
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Is it extending to YouTube? Like people who upload anime on there? The whole brave series is on there I think.
>>11150190
The only kind of government watch g us would be the fbi , and that's only on /b/.
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>>11150190
Pastebin/mediafire links are cat and mouse games. They're up and down and re-up.
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>>11150167
It's sponsored and promoted by the japanese government. If you don't feed them something they will shut down more gates.
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>>11150255
I can't though. They don't offer the streaming services in my country.
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>580 foreign sites
Wow, that's sure gonna take a tiny little nibble at everything that's out there.
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magnets, guys
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:PT6UI672T6FSMLQAJIYUHU7X6UCH4VK4&tr
[EG]Char's _Counterattack _BD(1080p _10bit)[23C71E13]. mkv
here in the cyberfuture we can transcend torrent tracking sites
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SCARY STUFF GUISE
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>>11150283
I know; we just need places that link 'em.

Fortunately, as long as /m/ is around, I don't think that will be a problem.
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>implying nyaa will ever disappear
>implying bakabt will ever disappear
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>>11150264
Beg them.
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I wonder how they plan on taking out Chinese sites. They can still buy DVDs with 13 episodes on them for $1, anyway.
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>>11150288
Actually, they just might. If Daiz has anything to do with it...
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>>11150297

The sites will just pop up someplace else.

This is simply a game of Whack-a-Mole that ultimately goes nowhere for the anime and manga industries.
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>>11149888
>Not having your favorite material on your hard drive
>implying pirates don't always win in the end

Copyright factions never win. Whenever they remove one source, ten will take it's place
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>>11150228
YouTube will walk away with no problems because they region lock and are takedown happy.

>>11150288
>implying megaupload will ever disappear

It's only been two and a half years, don't forget so easily.

>>11152156
We all know it will be a win for piracy, what matters is what happens in the middle.
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>>11150300
>Daiz
Sorry to sound like an absolute newfag, but who the fuck is this "Daiz" guy, and why is his name brought up on /a/ so much surrounding this subject?
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>>11149888
But muh G-Reko
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www.meti.go.jp/policy/mono_info_service/contents/downloadfiles/140414.pdf

I see nyaa mentioned there. What the hell are they saying?
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>>11153324
Japanese government is hiring hackers to take pirate sites down for good
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I've been seeding Vifam 13 to japanese peers for months, it isn't even a real dirty gaijins deal.
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>>11152668
Daiz is a prolific encoder who posts on /a/. /a/ makes a meme of him by pretending everything wrong with fansubbing and the anime industry is his fault.
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>>11152758
Odds are it's prob. gonna get a English sub stream like AGE and Build Fighters did.

Worst case you have to get a proxy to watch it.
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I still get all my shit through IRC bots anyway because I'm an old fogey.
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>>11150139
Wow this sounds like some bullshit a fucking 12 year old would cook up
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>>11153324
part of the site that they plan on taking down, by force of law if necessary.

frankly it'd be a hiccup, a really annoying one for users but they'll have something else up sooner rather than later to replace it.
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Government and businesses not getting the point Round....what is it now? I lost count.
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>>11153324
This doesn't sound that bad. They acknowledge that piracy does have the effect of free advertising, and note that the lack of legal channels is a problem, and that they will have to offer alternatives while taking stuff down.
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>>11153697
Have you ever listened to the names in anime?
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>implying piracy affects anything
>implying these aren't greedy corporations just trying to make more money
>implying they don't make money of DVDs/merch

Good animes sell, DVD/BD sales are noticeably high for their retarded price and lack of content.

It's not our fault many of the Japanese animes are shit and they fail to meet their expectations.
Its not our fault they sell DVD/BD at 80 or more bucks for a small amount of content.

What they need to do instead of going after pirates, is restructure their business model and sell DVD/BD at a reasonable price.

But that won't happen japanese market is seriously fucked up
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>First Sad Panda is going away
>now Nyaa
>soon Tokyotosho, Bakabt and others

No porn, no anime, no nothing.
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I don't give a fuck about modern anime, but where will I get old school classic mecha anime if the websites fucking shut down
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>>11155915
the American reaction to piracy:
panic, legal threats, arrests.....but it all lead to services that tries to cater to the new demand, now you get digital music stores and netflix, not perfect but getting there.

Japan seems to be heading the same way albeit a tad slower, but Japan isn't dealing with local market like the US, they're dealing with international market which means more legal barriers to go through in terms of distribution, give them time and they might just do the right thing, if the service is good enough people will migrate to a legal outlet and the piracy issue will be negligible and everybody wins
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>>11155952
then I suggest you grab what you can ASAP before it goes away, if this whole thing turns out to be a dud then all is well but if this turns out into another megaupload then you'll be glad you have them before the hammer comes down
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>>11155918
Source?
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>>11155918
Fuck are you talking about? Exhentai is fine.
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>>11155918
You realize that torrent files are perfectly legal, right?

What they're going after are websites that stream and let you DDL full episodes.
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>tfw Chinese sites have some hard to find obscure anime and tv shows streaming
>tfw in order to watch shows you can't watch anywhere ese
>tfw this convenience is being pissed upon by Japanese business men
Geisha no likey oyaji pissu.
The worst part of this is China has gotten self-conscious about copyright laws and shit and some sites have started to block ISPs that are outside of the country. So if they get a single complaint they shut the fucker up for Chinese eyes only. Xiami did it a few months ago. Video sites like Youku have started to block certain content from outsiders as well. As someone who enjoys old Japanese shows the idea of no having access to series like Sukeban Deka or HurricanePolymar gives me flash backs of the Megaupload Purge. I don't know about you guys but I'm backing up what I can find. Cause you never know when it might be the last time that content will ever be accessible to the internet or even outside of Japan.
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>>11156121
>You realize that torrent files are perfectly legal, right?
More like they can't be stopped.
They aren't legal in the least. If the MPAA could figure out a way to stop torrenting they would in a heart beat.
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>>11156019
Fakku is going to shut down exhentai
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It's gonna make you PAY
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>>11156243
Torrent files aren't inherently illegal at all, any more than media players or browsers are. What the user accesses with them is a different story.
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THEY'RE NOT BUYING OUR $100 VALVERAPE BOXSETS!!!!
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>>11156243
Torrent files can be stopped, and the sites hosting them stopped.

However torrent files themselves aren't illegal as they aren't directly infringing copyright, all they do is allow a program to share specific parts of a file with other programs on other computers. If you wanted to take down torrents you'd end up taking down a shit load of sites, which would cost millions in legal fees, compared to taking down 100 or so streaming sites that actually host copyright breaking content.
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Free Anime and Comics from the M.A.G.!!
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>>11158609
And they have such excellent translations too.
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I wouldn't worry at all. Japan don't got the juice to do shit. This is all window dressing bull. Enforcing legal shit on us citizens, good luck japs. we fucking nuke you again.
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>>11158390
$100 is a very reasonable price for a box set by Japanese standards.

Try $300-500.

Unless you meant the sort of "box set" where they go and split the series up into four of them in which case yeah, $100 each sounds about right.
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>>11156243
The report is hilarious around that bit.

>HOW DO WE STOP TORRENTS
>We could try coming up with a technological counter to block torrent connections. Might require time and funding.
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I don't think a lot of /m/ related things will be in danger. Hollywood doesn't care if you pirate old movies, the video game industry doesn't care if you pirate old video games, and I would like to think the same applies for anime.

That said, it appears I will finally have to buy a crunchyroll subscription as this will most certainly spell the end for currently airing anime. What a fucking shame too, because I fucking hate crunchyroll (shit steam quality, no special typesetting, half assed rushed subs that are mediocre at best, etc).
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>>11149888
>mainly operated by Chinese
Oh wow, It's fucking nothing. Enough with the damned fear mongering. This same thing happens every couple of months.
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crunchy roll doesn't air everything, right?

this is fucking bullshit
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I'd like to note that the report says

-To take out piracy you have to first provide reasonable legal alternatives

-Convenience is very important, and there's a need to consolidate stuff in a single place "like iTunes" (their example, not mine)

-Pricing needs to be reasonable

-Quality needs to be good

-First few episodes should be free so people can give things a try before actually committing

There's loads of other stuff too but BASICALLY what it boils down to is they say that they need to make a site where people can stream stuff in high quality conveniently at reasonable prices.

I don't think this is a bad thing.
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>>11158674
you do realize that crunchyroll is that site, right?
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>>11158679
It's not. Read the report.
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www.meti.go.jp/policy/mono_info_service/contents/downloadfiles/140414.pdf

The report also points out all the problems with existing legal channels (like Crunchy), including bad quality, bad selection, and bad translations, and says they have to be fixed if they want a chance against piracy, because most people resort to it out of necessity due to legal channels being shit.
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>>11158692
With no coverage.
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>>11158692
Yes, I'm grasping at straws even though the report points out that Crunchy is rubbish.

Dumbfuck.
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Look, I wouldn't mind paying $7 a month for Crunchyroll if it was the only way to watch currently airing anime.

The problem I have with Crunchyroll though is they don't air everything (for example I don't believe they show Zankyou no Terror so I would have to either not watch it at all or pay another $7 a month or whatever to watch it on a different streaming site), and their subs are extremely low quality (the people doing the subs are 9 to 5 salary men who work on extremely strict schedules and as a result the subs are soulless and poor).

As long as fansubbing is an option, I will support it, but if worst comes to worst I would be fine paying $7-$20 a month for anime.
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>>11158674
>Japan
>reasonable pricing

Yea okay. I'll believe it when I see it
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As long as they don't take Nyaa
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You know, I don't understand a lick of this, but I hope it means the end of HorribleSubs. Because they are directly ripping off Crunchyroll, a paid service here in the United States. Fansub groups work by making their own subs off their own translations, and use the TV broadcasts as their video source.
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>>11158718
The report makes note of all of these problems and recommends that the industry get together to make a site that fixes all of these (consolidating all shows on one site, simultaneous broadcasts, reasonable prices, good translations, high quality, etc.).

If they do make this site, Crunchyroll is done for because they want to consolidate stuff on their one, own site.

>>11158732
1000 yen/$10 a month for 2000+ shows is what Bandai Channel does, and the report mentions that $8 for a 24 episode series is what the average American user deems as reasonable.
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>>11158733
Are you dumb? Nyaa would be the first to go.
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>>11158744

what
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>>11158744
I am so sorry.
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>>11158741
>Bandai Channel
There's more to anime than Sunrise, you know.
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>>11158754
>Daiz
It was fucking Daiz fault of course.
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>>11149888
>Chinese
Good luck with that.
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haha this is a joke, right?

studios don't really make much money from anime as it airs. they make money from cheap china made plastic figurines and overpriced blu ray box sets. and when it comes to the blu ray box sets, americans rarely import those, or at least they don't import them in groves to the point where it majorly affects the japanese economy.
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>>11158761
He finally killed anime.
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>>11158741
$10 doesn't sound too bad. I'd prefer $8 though
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>>11158764
See
>>11158754
It's over
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>>11158744
>>11158754

guise its happening. the sky is falling
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Keep this daiz shit to /a/ please, or I'm going to call codename cv back here.
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>>11158756
>hurrr

>>11149923
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HEY SPOILER GUY LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT FUCKING REKT SEE >>11158754
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>>11158775
do it, i could use a laff m8
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>>11158775
This time it's real though.
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>>11158741
Make nyaa a legal subscription based website and everything is fine. I would gladly pay $10 a month for nyaa, especially if it was the legal option.
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>>11158783
You are fucking gay
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>>11158778
Your point is? I'm not gonna go check the studios, but all that is old crap anyway.
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How is bakabt going to take this?

And will you be able to download directly from subbing group sites?
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>>>/a/111384712

Nothing to see guys, move along
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>>11158754
OFFICIAL THREAD THEME:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=didzxUkrtS0

sticky when?
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>>11158804
Go look on the nyaa IRC.
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>>11158800
bakabt only keeps shows that are unlicenced in the united states that havent aired in the last year or so.

also sub groups aren't going to risk getting sued up the ass by providing direct downloads.
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>>11153473
>English sub stream
Gross
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>>11149888
sorry, been out of the loop for a few days, whats all this sudden purge thing? wat the fuck happened? /a/ is so fucking paranoid about this, all becasue some asshole at fakku kept selling porn shit?
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>>11158830
Nyaa is dying and the government of japan is DMCAing everyone.
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>>11158830
That's a different thing. The Fakku people licensed hentai from some Jap magazines so Sadpanda got C&Ded and had to delete a bunch of stuff. Or something like that. As for the anime thing, just fucking read OP's post.
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>>11158835
Do we know when the end will hit?
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>>11158835
nyaa was sold or claimed by legal action of the japs government?
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>>11158845
24 hours.

>>11158851
That's what their IRC says. Look on the homepage.
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>>11158851
>>11158853
It's just a ruse.
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>>11158858
Proof?
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>>11158851
any news about bakabt?
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>>11158865
They have started restricting uploads to only old unlicensed anime. See their front page.
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>>11158865
bakabt.me
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>>11158870
They put that up before any of this started. BakaBT was meant to be a highest-quality archiving community, and they wanted to stop the influx of new series TVrips when there was clearly going to be a BD in the future.
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Well I came back and all hell is breaking lose...
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>>11158865
Should I grab what I can from them just in case?
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Get you wallets ready to pay premium price box sets!
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>>11158884
Yes
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>>11158861
It's Daiz.
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>>11158618
Good luck with that.
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>>11158884
best to do that anyway, I'm already grabbing everything I've been putting off.
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>>11158895
I hate it when people say that. Daiz isn't a funny guy.
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>>11158884
speaking off... i need to get those 90s classic mecha shows
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>>11158901
I'm saying that he's a retard who shouldn't be taken seriously.
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>>11158909
Did you go to nyaa?
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>>11158893
>>11158900
>>11158904

I've already got most of my mecha downloaded, so I'm digging through my backlog to see what I need.
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Fun read
http://www.logsoku.com/r/livejupiter/1406846370/
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>>11158921
I need to lurk the 80s-90s thread
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Is it just me or is nyaa not fucking letting me downlioad? PANIC NOW
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>>11158954
well my

generic moe anime is not downloading so...
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>>11158954
>>11158963
fucking idiots, one look at tracker status will tell you if it's working or not
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Good that I have Precure New Stage 3 down yesterday so I'm good.
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>>11158954
works fine for me
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>>11158970
http://www.nyaa.se/

STATUS OF THE TRACKER IS CURRENTLY UNKNOWN BRACE YOURSELF
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>>11156097
It's being purged of content from one particular publisher due to Fakku securing the rights to everything they published. However they are also going after things that Fakku has the rights to, but has no intention to distribute because it's 'Too racy'.
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http://www.discotekmedia.com/

Don't worry Discotek will continue to provide us with Classics
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>>11158984
>Fakku
>Going legit

Why do people even use Fakku?
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>>11158984
>has the rights to
>but has no intention to distribute
and this is what Japan is going to do with anime once they manage to break anime piracy, they'll license stuff that are "export viable" only and then we're back to the 90s in terms of anime availability outside japan.
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>>11159020
which is the reason why we pirate.

Japan really doesnt know shit about business
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Well /m/en, are you going to be the kings of your local sneakernets once the great happening is over? I've got some 200 titles stored.
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>>11158884

shit now you got me paranoid lol, gonna do the same thing.
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>>11159061
better be paranoid and safe, I sure hope that this is a huge nothing though
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>>11159020
>and then we're back to the 90s in terms of anime availability outside japan

Is this not what you wanted? So many cursed the era of digital distribution, but now we're sent back into the era of trading VHS tapes with HK subs, one episode at a time.

You should be pleased, /m/. You did it. You fought progress.
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I'm going to keep an eye on the news and see how many more people they will arrest in the next couple of weeks.
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>>11149888

Nothing will happen, just like any time someone tries to pressure chinese into giving in for legal stuff.
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>>11159083
Nyaa is dying.
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>>11159076
No, we never cursed it, we just remembered it with nostalgia because it was a fun time, but times change and I'd rather be able to grab all the obscure shows I'd never see otherwise then go back to them dark times.
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>>11159089

pfftt sure thing bro.
You guys always dramatize stuff, just like when Gundam AGE was supposed to be about smartphones and shit.
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I remember the time they hunt down Share and PD users. There was no RAWs for weeks.
I wonder how this one will work.
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>>11159099
see
>>11158754
From the Nyaa IRC
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>>11159106
Isn't Nyaa based in Sweden? How can you forcibly purchase a site?

I'm just hoping this is a hoax.
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>>11158946

yeah been getting a lot of short but cool OVA's.
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>>11159122
>I'm just hoping this is a hoax.

t is
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>>11159129
Proof?
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This thread is weird. Either you are very committed to keeping an obvious hoax alive or extremely gullible. Can't decide which is more likely.
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>>11159158
We're just paranoid. Paranoia is fine if you have a reason to be paranoid, which we do.
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>>11159158
if you're talking about nyaa it's most likely a hoax but if you're talking about the japanese government playing another game of whack-a-mole with pirates then it's a very real thing.

better safe than sorry though.
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>>11159158
I'm pretty sure the guy who keeps going "proof?" is just trolling. Sarcasm can be hard to read in text but I don't believe anyone is dense enough to believe that the comment in the Nyaa IRC is a legitimate notice of closure.

Then again, people are falling for it.
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>>11159259
Is nyaa down for you? It isn't loading for me.
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>>11159278

just checked, its up for me.
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>>11159293
Same. The trackers are also working for now.
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>>11159352
Ok. It's just my shitty internet then.
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>>11149888
Not very happy about it but it was bound to happen.

At least there is an alternative. Torrent sites will take care of my needs either way.
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>>11149888
Welp, now I'm stuck downloading anime torrentz at a WHOPPING 1mb/s.

Brb rewatching aquarion in one sitting after years of not watching it, and finally getting the guts to watch Eureka Seven's sequel.

On the bright side my productivity will go up 10 fold.
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Yeah, ok. Makes sense. Target the Chinese. You know what? The gaming industry's been trying to do that for years on MMORPGs and has gotten nowhere against the Chinese goldfarmers. Same'll happen here. Try for years, get nowhere.
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Someone give me an update on this Nyaa deal.
Should be start activate Operation M. Stockpile?
All users with complete seasons please backup all files to secure locations. This is some serious shit.
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>>11158662
they do almost air everything. in fact there's very few shows out there that don't use crunchy roll's subs or modify crunchyroll's subs as a starting component
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>>11158662
Even if they did air everything, they're not available everywhere. So it would still be bullshit.
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>>11160421
Well I'm in America. So we got everything. Fuck anyplace that doesn't. Serves them right for not living in America
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>>11160471
>So we got everything
Topkek.

You're not even the biggest consumer of anime. That would be the frogs.
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So after the C&D email Japan government will send someone over to meet the host and bring them to court if they don't comply.
http://yaraon.net/blog-entry-25858.html
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>>11164834
Oh wow. They know that people run these things pretty anonymously, right?
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>>11164846
I don't think they are stupid enough to bluff to the public if they don't have some kind of plan to do this.
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>>11158740
The guys running horrible should be paid for their service. its much better than shitty crunchyroll.
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>>11164861
>I don't think they are stupid enough
it's a plan to stop online piracy that hinges upon doing the exact same shit as everybody else, but now they're Japanese people

unless you're a Japanese businessman you should see the flaw here
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>>11164908
>Be Japanese Diplomat.
>Try to serve an affadavit to a 'Nyaa.'
>No sign of his/her real name.
>Site is paid for with donations and ad revenue linked to an online account.
>The law is against your interference.
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>>11164980
so this is like a sweepstakes for the really spergy weebs
"pirate enough chinese girl cartoons and a real Japanese person may visit YOU"
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This reminded me that I needed to download some stuff like Roujin Z and the Galaxy Express 999 movie.
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>>11164986
Bandai and other companies do have a department full of foreigners to deal with overseas issues and sales.
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>>11159828
>watching eureka AO

holly shit don't

I'm one of the few that loves the shit out of E7, it's not worth it man.
It's like end of eva and me 3 mixed into one steaming pile of shit.
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>>11165226

unfortunately they are all neets
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>>11165236
Oh come on, it's not that bad.

Until you get to episode 17 and beyond in which case yes it REALLY IS THAT FUCKING BAD
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>>11165236
>Likes E7
>hates AO

This is the equivalent to a Zetafag who hates ZZ
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>>11165236
oh good job you attracted the AO troll
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>>11165236
>So much shit taste in one post
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>>11165236
I'm pretty sure E7 is rather popular.
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>>11166078
ZZ didn't have a retcon gun, and didn't invalidate Zeta's whole message.
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>>11165236
AO is like a full course meal where the last two courses are burnt microwave burritos and ramen mixed with parmesean cheese and chocolate quick mix.
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>>11149919
Fuck crunchyroll and official subs, i trust fansubbers more.
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>>11152093
Yep, music companies make far more money for western countries and even they failed, you can download any mp3 you want.
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>>11166691
The problem is that we've seen a shit-ton of consolidation in terms of torrent sites. It's basically Tokyotosho, BakaBT and Nyaa.
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So....

August 1st came and went nothing has happened?
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>>11168047
Sites have a month time to clean up their stuff.
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>>11166892
with magnet links torrent don't need to consolidate
people can literally post the only thing needed right here, in a pastebin, or anywhere else
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>>11168069
You still need a place for them to congregate though.

It would just be more difficult, but maybe we've gotten too used to things.
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>>11158640
>how do we stop torrents?

Funny thing, it's just a propagation means. Shame that this cycle youtube won, because all things considered this is just a repeat of "BUT IF THEY PLAY MUH MUSIC ON THE RADIO PEOPLE WILL LISTEN TO IT FOR FREEEEEEEEEEE."

Which turned out to be god tier advertisement for music, all things considered. Shit, maybe people should learn to market their shit better.
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>>11149888
>Shit, maybe people should learn to market their shit better.
this really
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>>11168069
>>11168380
I've written a script to convert Nyaa torrent files into magnet links. Straightforward stuff. It'll probably take a day or two to index everything, at which point I'll post pastebin/mega links here if the thread isn't dead.
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>>11172800
And now I have one for Bakabt.
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>>11166668
Get THORA's Bubblegum Crisis instead. Anime-Takeover did a nice job back in the day, but today, there's no excuse to get theirs.

Make sure Iczer-3 is by RiP. There's another group's old rip that sucks and looks LD-tier.

Enjoy Dendoh.
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>>11172800
>>11173851
so even if BakaBT and Nyaa get taken down, the torrents themselves will still work?
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>>11174010
Yeah, so long as DHT is enabled and people still seed the torrents.
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>>11174137

At which point somebody can put up new sites with links to these torrent links after the witch hunt has died down.

Really, the Japanese government can do all they want, but its just going to be a game of cat and mouse with sites owned by anons going up and offline
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>>11174298
Pretty much.
Speaking of which, I've scraped BakaBT already, though anything exclusive to it probably won't work at the moment.

http://a.pomf.se/rhqilb.txt
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>>11174335
>http://a.pomf.se/rhqilb.txt
cool

backups
http://www.mediafire.com/view/s19gbkryfl4exwf/Snapshot_of_BakaBT_magnet_links_as_of_August_3_2014.txt
Snapshot of BakaBT magnet links as of August 3 2014.txt 1.0 MB
https://mega.co.nz/#!pJZCQaAJ!Y9IFv7N0Ra0DbPbiuxqB4-NEQPS7ExfJQHdf6g_oJoo
and a magnet link to a torrent of that text file of magnet links
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:7G5MJQ5I3HOPZDBPZHVKYLLBDOTFSO4C
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>>11165226>
do have a department full of foreigners to deal with overseas issues and sales.

No they don't hahahhaha.

In fact the English Gundam.info page is for south east asia only despite being for the "English speaking Gundam Fans"
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>>11155915
Rather than worry about "reverse importation", larger companies should experiment with domestically releasing series using the Western style. See if the extra sales make up for the price cut.
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>>11158406
>Torrent files can be stopped, and the sites hosting them stopped.

Not modern torrents. Even if they took down BakaBT, /m/ could still keep all those mecha archives up. As long as we have magnet links and DHT/peer sharing, decentralized torrents can stay around forever.
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>>11174485
>larger companies should experiment with domestically releasing series using the Western style. See if the extra sales make up for the price cut.
I think some of the first wave R2 dvds were around Y3000 a pop, like DYRL and the Yamato movies. I might be wrong, though. I dug around a bit from my DYRL and all I found was a compilation disc of the Vampire Princess Miyu ovas that was Y6000.
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>no foreigns at Bandai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HgONrhFSFk (around 7mins towards the end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fzXFWjtcFo
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>>11150283
>>11150287

W-what are magnets and how can I learn about this fucking magic
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>>11174398
>and a magnet link to a torrent of that text file of magnet links

we need to go deeper
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>>11174589

fckin magnets

how do they work
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>>11174335
>pomf

This safe?
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>>11174655
Yes.

Probably. Better install Nortan first, and update.
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>>11174730

>2014

>still using antivirus
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>>11155991
>this X1000

for a little while, there, iTunes had saved the music industry. file sharing networks like Napster were making finding music almost effortless, compared to hunting down CDs, or digging through record stores.

but you know what's better than Free? Easy.
with iTunes you could get high quality downloads of almost anything you wanted, a song at a time, right to a device that would play it with no problems. no more pulling your hair out when you waited a week to download some rare album, only to discover that some faggot encoded it in OGG.

the anime industry needs to learn this. if you want to beat the pirates, give the fans what they want, WHEN THEY WANT IT. I pay for Netflix. if I had cash I would pay for Crunchyroll and Hulu. I got no problem putting out money to support the stuff i love. EXCEPT when it means buying Japanese, region coded BDs at ass rape prices, paying import fees, and only getting 2 episodes a disc. precious few shows are worth that pain. these are fucking cartoons, not the cure for cancer
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>>11158764
>www.meti.go.jp/policy/mono_info_service/contents/downloadfiles/140414.pdf
the term is "droves" not "groves.

and, that formula of making money through disc sales used to be the way Hollywood and early 00's cable networks paid for their content. the market for hard copies crashed almost a decade ago. that massive market contraction that killed anime in the US? that was part of fallout from the death of physical media, across the entire entertainment industry.

now, the money comes in from cable On Demand rental fees, Redbox, Netflix and Hulu, and other revenue streams. no one survives on just disc sales, anymore. The Japanese need to get with this. If they want to make money off the US market, they are going to need to play ball with Netflix, iTunes, and Youtube.

honestly, I am surprised that they even give a shit about piracy. I thought they had their revenue streams locked down by selling moe-shit to japanese otaku? why get pissy about markets that don't even factor into their creative decisions?
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>>11174850
>honestly, I am surprised that they even give a shit about piracy. I thought they had their revenue streams locked down by selling moe-shit to japanese otaku? why get pissy about markets that don't even factor into their creative decisions?

I wouldn't be surprised if this was completely and idea from their government trying to do some awkward sof power policy trhrough one of their most successfull cultural assets. Think about it - which country other than US is famous for mainstream animation? They're the only real competiton for US and might have realized that.
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>>11166680
good on you, but if nobody is getting paid, then nobody is going to do the work. Anarchy is great, and all... but... those animators and creators have bills to pay and kids to put through college. it won't kill you to actually pay for things
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>>11149888
animetosho and nyaa better be careful.
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>>11174909

What if you support a series entirely through merchandise but just prefer fansubs?
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>>11168705
torrents are bad for propigation because no one can track who is watching what, nor can they verify the sources, nor can they direct the viewers to a place to actually pay for something. there is no way to communicate with the audience. no way to build a brand that will leverage future sales. no way to get feedback from fans.

on Youtube the publisher puts up the song, they can see who is listening, when, how often, etc... and they have a link pointing you to the official site, iTunes, Goggle Play, Amazon...

Youtube is actually USEFUL.
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>>11174935
I think that is very ethical. I also think that very few people would actually follow through with that. it is a lot cheaper to pay $8 a month for Netflix, or sit through ads on Youtube, than to pony up $30 for a model kit, or some ungodly amount for Figmas/statues/swag.

also, i think it would be more valuable to the content providers to be able to control how their stuff is distributed. like, on Daisuke they give away the anime for free. however, there is also a store, on site, where you can buy merch for those shows. much safer than just dumping shows into the bowels of the internet and hoping some fans find their way to you with money for merch.

Looking at Daisuke, it seems like that business plan isn't working... but I think its more to do with the stuff they were selling. I love Lupin III, but I am not buying a $80 garage kit. better put up those Figmas
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>>11149888
you are new to the internet right OP? Japan been singing that song sinch 4chan started, and here we are today and Japan still making the same "threat" as it did almost 10 years ago. If the world is serious about this shit, pirate bay would of been killed off long ago
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>>11174987
Daisuke should buddy up with American anime merchandise makers. They barely have anything in their store, and most of it is overpriced old prize figures and Nendroids. It seems Americans prefer printed textile goods to figures.
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>>11174335
Nyaa is taking longer than expected because I had to figure out how to handle the title encoding. I've converted 170k of 583k torrents so far.
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>>11177978
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q
You are a good person.
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255,304 magnet links so far :^)
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>>11181548
You're doing god's work anon
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>>11181575
Hear! Hear!
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>>11174850
This.

To Funimation's credit, they've been very, very aggressive with getting their licensed content onto a variety of streaming platforms, often times months ahead of DVD/BD release, and before a dub is even finished. Attack on Titan was on Netflix last fall, subbed, only months after finishing its Japanese airing.

It actually makes me wonder if Funi has so much clout now because they have proven to the Japanese that they can really push these shows outward. The Japanese themselves fail to do this internationally (for the most part) and then wince when a Blu-ray fails to breach a few thousands sales. Pathetic. I actually *get* the collector mentality there, and the extremely expensive boxsets. You really do get everything with those boxes, certainly more than the average viewer needs, but those prices probably could/would come down a bit if they weren't so reliant on them to make back the costs.

Fuck, why am I arguing this shit still?
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>dubs
>streaming

I don't care about this shit just give me international Blu Ray releases(or high quality downloads), fuck I am not even in America do you realize how hard it is to get even Gunpla in here
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In japan using characters from other companies in you own work may ended up being sued and arrested.
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/west/west_affairs/news/140806/waf14080602000002-n1.htm
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>>11181548
Finished. 456k magnet links in all.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!8ZwAQYoB!_EBl3P9g_3_IJ_JG1r6crQ
You have option of downloading everything or selecting by category.
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>>11182710
With this Zeon can fight for 10 more years!
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>>11182710
May the God bless you, anon
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>>11182710
http://www.mediafire.com/download/rirf9zv3d8a9n5l/all_nyaa_magnets_080514.zip
and
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ZHH7RNOOAW62FJ6CZS77VSUFW7XPJLN4
a magnet for a torrent for a zip with a txt with magnets
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>>11182710
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/rirf9zv3d8a9n5l/all_nyaa_magnets_080514.zip

>456k magnets are about 22MB.
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If they're gonna ban anime, I guess this is the border line for mecha upload...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKmfZXGah44
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>>11183739
I don't understand.
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>1 million torrents later
great plan, Japan
that sure stopped piracy
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So this all turned out to be bullshit, right?
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>>11185332
I think either nyaa is harder to get taken down than expected, or nyaa's owners will rely on their anonymity and location in a foreign area to try and survive.
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>>11185332
dude, they may have sent letters
this is fucking realz
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>>11185903
In snail mail

Because they're Japanese
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>>11183698
It's crazy to think that people were so against TPB going magnet-only for most torrents. They saved a shitton of bandwidth and storage.
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>>11156200
Dunno if you're still here, but what are some other sites you can recommend for downloading old & obscure anime & manga, specifically raws since places like BakaBT & IIRC, AB doesn't carry them.
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>>11187132
Yeah but magnets are haaaaard. It took me like seven seconds to figure out how to use them and that's unacceptable.
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>>11185499

The site's in Sweden, so I'm not sure how Japan will accomplish very much, if at all.
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>>11182710
I didn't realize that nyaa has a subdomain for porn until just now. Should I archive the porn?
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>>11190450
Yes.
Japan must have its ambition crushed.
They cannot be allowed to even dream that they can stop this.
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