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Really should have hit it, Shiro.
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Really should have hit it, Shiro.
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>>11099689
Time for thirty people with the non-canon novel rape.
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Ginger
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>>11099690
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>>11099690
Was it written by Fukui ?
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>>11099768
No. It was the Code Geass guy, I think?
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>>11099768
Even better: it was written by Okouchi.
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>>11099773
Nobody was raped in Code Geass other than a table though.

I'm sort of interested in reading the novels to see what else is in them. Okouchi also did a decent job with the Battle in Three Dimensions short.
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>>11099690
it is sad we can't have a civilized conversation of 8th MS Team because of it.
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>>11100833
>table rape
Classy
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>>11099690
wait what
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>>11100993
This image exists because I didn't know how you could die from biting your tongue.
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>>11099690
>>11100993
What are you talking about?
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>>11099690
The novel said assaulted, not rape.
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>>11100833
That poor table.
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>>11101038
mere sexual assault wouldn't cause strong independent young girl kiki to want to commit suicide
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>>11100993
>>11101030
Except tongues don't bleed that much.
Killing yourself by biting your tongue is just an old cliché in eastern fiction.
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>>11101055
What if you get the bitten off tongue down your trachea?
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>>11101081
It would fall out of your mouth after you bite it.
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Post that page again.
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>>11101099
why would you want that?
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>>11101046
They didn't even say it was sexual assault, just assault. You can beat someone up enough to make them suicidal.
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>>11099689
>Zeke sloppy seconds
I think Shiro made the right choice.
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That is rape.
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>>11101138

Assault and rape are the same thing in Japanese.
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They use Kiki's body to fake Aina's death at the end.
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>>11101214

>They use Kiki's body to fake Aina's death at the end.

How do we know you're telling the truth?
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>>11101165
>Assault and rape are the same thing in Japanese.
Got proof?
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>>11101214
If only this were true...
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>>11101055
They bleed plenty, especially if you actually bite them off. Not enough to bleed out, but choking/drowning doesn't need that much.

>>11100993
Trachea's in the front. I expected more factual accuracy from an MS paint suicide depiction.
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>>11101055
As someone who has bitten his tongue in half, meaning like one side of my tongue was almost disconnected after falling off a roof, eat shit they don't bleed that much.
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>>11101150
Thought she got gang banged by feddies.
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>>11101011
>>11101037
>>11101099
For those who are new

http://archive.foolz.us/m/thread/9468747/#q9469106
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>>11101266
How'd you manage that?
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I like how Kiki gang rape has become the new inviciball flame war or DirectX Ghinius in terms of shit that has to be brought up in every single 08th thread.

And I'm in with Space AIDS.
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>>11100998
It's not rape if the table enjoyed.
Oh wait.
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>>11099690

>UWAAAAAAAHHH
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>zeon using directx
So does federation use OpenGL?
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>>11103979
It's kinda amazing how the internet can boil down entire stories into a handful of complainable key moments.
So Zeta is nothing but a teenager punching people for saying he has a girl's name for 50 episodes, Eva is 12 hours of an emo boy crying, etc.
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>>11104052
ZZ is 47 episodes of Bright chasing chickens.
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>>11104052
To be fair the main thing 08th is to me it The Ghinius Show (co-starring his sister Aina and best boyfrenemy Yuri).
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>>11104052
White Base literally just searches the desert for salt until it gets cancelled.
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>>11104052
M7 is 52 episodes of a guy singing at people.
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>>11104052
Eva is 12 hours of an emo boy crying, that's the appeal.
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>>11104052
>>11104106
I thought Eva was mostly waifu showcasing until the fans start killing each other over who's better. With emo boy crying in the meantime.
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>>11104115
The idea of people watching Eva for waifus is a sad one.
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>>11104061
And the Moon Moon arc goes for about 45 episodes instead of 2.
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>>11104052
Isn't that the nature of the internet?
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>>11104052
Victory Gundam is just the Shrike team dy-

Oh wait.
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>>11105302
Well, it's not JUST them dying. Many other people had their moments too.
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Fuck that shit between Shiro and her.
All I wanted is a raw fucking of Karen,
but Eledore is too beta for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diIGsXkQY9E
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>>11105630
Karen is best /10
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>>11105340
Moments to die.
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>>11104052
MSG, Z, and ZZ is just one long compilation of Bright slapping teenagers and eating burgers... and some chickens.
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>>11105668
Yep, that's what I said.
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>>11101324

Wait, so everybody didn't know that novel rape scene untill that thread in 2013? In here(kroea) almost every gundam fans already knew that. So I'm kinda surprised.
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>>11105748
Some people knew about it. It would occasionally appear in rumors, but no one provided a valid source/ translation until that thread.
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>>11105748
The Gundam novels are rarely trodden territory for the English fandom. They pretty much never come over here commercially besides the original MSG novels, never get fan translated, and anybody who knows moon runes is too busy playing SRW games to read them.
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So... are there any UC Gundam Novels without a minor getting sexually assaulted?

Its fine if the answer's no, just... I'd like to take survey, I only know of 08th MS teams novelization and unicorn's.

I feel like you're going to be telling me that in 0083 novel, gato stops his fight with kou mid way through to go molest the whole colony of crippled kids
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>>11105821
>Gato
>Not Nina
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>>11099689
Kiki best 08th MS.

Pissed me off that Shiro spends the whole series pining after that cyan haired zeek whore when he's got Kiki there dying to 'perform maintenance on his Gundam'

At least Michael probably got lucky.
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>>11105884
I thought Michael had two speeds: pine for Bebe and drink himself to whiskey dick.

Karen probably dragged Eledor off to fuck, however.
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>>11105894
What about Sanders? Or do the reapers lovers all die after the third time?
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>>11105923
>sander's lovers die
>Kiki dies after sex with federation soldiers

Sander's raped Kiki confirmed.
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>>11105821
Hathaway's flash, hathaway pretty much ghost bones Quess every night.
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>>11099778
I don't know who that is. Inform me.
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>>11105748
Japanese printed media is not as readily accessible to the west as it is to the east due to a number of factors, not the least of which is distance.
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>>11105748
So you've seen for yourself the material in question? Perhaps you could tell us what actually happened so we can put it to rest.
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>>11099689
But she was fucking disgusting.
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>>11099689
What does she smell like, /m/?
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>>11106574
>But she was fucking obnoxious.

FTFY
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>>11106492
Kindle version is available
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>>11106584
ass sweat
jungle twat
mildew
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>>11106584
have a gif version
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>>11106584
mud butt
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>>11106625
It's not rape it's empowerment
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>>11106658
Are you even responding to the right post?
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>>11107350
What should have I said instead?
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Hello, /m/. I took this screencap during my viewing of Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team, and felt it was relevant to this thread.
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>>11101243

>Dirty gaijin wants me to prove my own cultural language that he doesn't know.

>Prove to me 2 plus 2 equals 4!

I dont have time to teach you japanese or the details of our society just because you want your waifu pure and untainted in your mind. You want proof? Go study japanese and live abroad. Then after a decade of study, go read gundam novels for leisure.
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???? (which is what is used in this case) and ???? are euphemisms for rape. In fact so much so that they're pretty much ONLY used for rape.
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>>11101324
where in the story does this happen, anyway?
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>>11107618
Or you could just point out actual uses of "assault" being used as euphemisms for rape?

Googling ???? gives countless articles on actual rape cases and if you try ??????, Google even tries to be helpful and gives you results where ?? (assault) is replaced with ??? (rape) because they're synonymous in Japanese.
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>>11107696

Why waste my time if text was posted and you can google it. im not gonna spoonfeed you. If you want to look smart posting it then go right ahead.
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>>11107761
>dur
You're not going to spoonfeed me by googling stuff to prove a random anon wrong? Okay sure whatever. Retard.
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>>11107382
I don't see how that even applies to the post you replied to.
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>>11106611
For the 08th novels? LINK. I've been dying to read their version of Ghinius's backstory (even if it differs from my personal one, which may or may not be terrible and continue the trend of bad things happening to minors).

Unrelated but that awkward feel when you can tolerate Kiki better than Aina because she's not as fucking stupid but want to bone Aina infinitely more.
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>>11108250
>can tolerate Kiki better than Aina because she's not as fucking stupid

But she's an insufferable bint from a village populated by assholes. Well, FORMERLY populated by assholes, anyway.
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>>11108480
She's a 17 year old girl doing stupid 17 year old girl stuff. Not a 20 year-old woman who ditches her severely ill loved one for some feddie cock who was nice to her for a night, and portrayed as a pure and righteous Mary-Sue for it.

Then again Aina fans hype her up as a pure Mary-Sue even more than the narrative does and are generally fucking awful so it might be less the character and more her fandom.

In b4 buttmad fanboys.
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That said Aina's still less shitty than Shiro, who's terrible all around and needs to get hit by a bus IMHO.
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>>11107556

...Kiki is Ed?
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>>11108521
Same character designers, wouldn't be surprised if he recycled stuff he liked in Kiki's design for Ed.

I should probably go to bed before this thread devolves even further into just me sperging about stupid shit.
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>>11099689
I never really cared for Kiki, don't hate her but she just came off as bland with a bad character design like Aina.

I mostly didn't much care for any of the females in that show and the only woman who had even a sliver of personality was the blond cunt and Karen.

Shiro > all
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>>11108716
>blond cunt
Who?
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>>11106535
I didn't directly see the material, but bascially all translations linked by >>11101324 are acurrate. Korea's most popular subculture wiki, 'rigvedawiki' also mentions that she is raped in novel. That's why most Korean gundam fans know this.
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>>11108751
>are acurrate

>"...... Kiki?"
>As muttered, Shiro asked.
>"I died"

Yes those shitty chink translations are 100% accurate.

Maybe that or Koreans are retarded.
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>>11108755
>"I died"
Because if there's one franchise where the ghosts of the recently deceased ISN'T a thing, it's UC Gundam.
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>>11108755
Meant to say

from
http://archive.foolz.us/m/thread/9468747/#9469043
to
http://archive.foolz.us/m/thread/9468747/#9469106

is true. Not that silly translation.
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>>11108760

>>11107462
>???????????????????
"Said the woman villager".

Your precious retarded korean-chan chink translator can't even fucking tell who's talking in the dialogue. Yeah 100% accurate you worthless cunt.
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>>11108768
First, >>11108760 is not me. Second, see >>11108767
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>>11107789
I was just fucking around
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>>11100833
He was more referring to the fact Okouchi also worked on THAT part of Valvrave
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>>11104052
>complainable

Also praisable.

Like how GGG Final is just 'Victory goes to those with courage!', upgrade, sacrifice ending
Or G Gundam is racist robots, ass shots and ANSWER ME DOMON (plus some WITH THE HELP OF KYOJI for dub fans)
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>>11105759
>They pretty much never come over here commercially besides the original MSG novels,

We started getting the SEED novels back in the day, but they cancelled those mid-run.
Can't remember what happened with the 00 novels.
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>>11107462
FROM:
>???????????????

Kiki was found, and the soldiers called out.
"It's a woman."
"She's still a kid."
"Yeah well, we're just have to make her into an adult, then."
The soldiers continued their vicious laughter.

(skip)

"Well then, I shall go ahead."
Said the man as he loosened his trouser's belt.
Kiki tried to get away by moving further back. However, the man was quicker than him.
The man dragged Kiki over with strength. Kiki tried to resist, but the other soldiers has held her four limbs down.
"Don't be so afraid. It'll feel good soon enough, okay?"

(skip)

(No...)
Tears are pouring down.
The man took out a knife, and cut Kiki's clothing open.
The knife was freezing cold on her skin.
(Help me.....)
(Save me, Shiro)
(Shiro)
(Shiro)
(Shiro)
"SHIRO-------"
Under the men, Kiki screamed.

(skip)

"...What about Kiki?"
Muttered Shiro as he wondered.
"She's dead."
The woman villager said bluntly.
"She was raped by the Federation men, and (ended it by) bit(ing) her tongue."

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Here's a transliteration-level translation of the excerpt for those confused/unable to moon.
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>>11107462
>>11109479
Ohkouchi needs to be put on a fucking leash.
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>>11109490
Never though I would translate rape material. Back to translating more normal stuff...
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>>11100998
What a slut
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>>11109490
Someone needs to ask these authors where all the literature featuring war crimes of gross obscenity committed by Zeon personnel against civilians and female Feds is. Then when they inevitably protest we'll have all the reason we need to start handing out Brightslaps in massive abundance while giving them scathing lectures about what's good for the goose being good for the gander and other idioms expressing the same idea.
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>>11110646
What, gassing whole populations of colonies and dropping said colonies on Earth isn't obscene enough for you?
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>>11108718
I'm pretty sure he's referring to Aina.

Though really, Aina got her best characterization in the first and last episodes, which is half the problem.
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>>11110728
Not personal enough.
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>>11101324
>http://archive.foolz.us/m/thread/9468747/#q9469106
>A.r. posts
>Thread immediately dies
Fitting
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>>11110728
>gassing whole populations of colonies.

Colony. Singular. The rest were destroyed in the course of attacking Federation garrisons, usually with nuclear weapons.

Gassing a colony is actually a really inefficent way of destroying it unless you want it intact (like in operation british.)
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>>11110946
It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it.
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>>11111321
It's not singular. When describing the one week war, they they always say that sides 1,2, and 4 were wiped out by NBC's.

Simultaneously with this unilateral declaration of war, the Principality of Zeon forces performed surprise attacks on Sides 1, 2, and 4. 3 billion people were slaughtered with nuclear and BC weapons.

>really inefficent
When has Zeon ever been worried about efficiency.
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>>11111371
Isn't NBC weapons kind of a blanket term to begin with? It's often used as a synonym for WMD half the time. It doesn't necessarily mean all three categories were used liberally and equally.
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>>11108509
A.r. pls

I got a mom who's mentally I'll and she wouldn't pull the shit he did If I ran off with a bitch
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>>11112435
And I personally am mentally ill and have done shit almost as crazy for equally ridiculous shit.

Not saying he's a fucking angel by a long shot, but Aina isn't 100% pure and righteous angel by a long shot.
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>>11112541
Yes she is
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I'm too stoned right now to get into a Sakhalin sibling righteousness bitch fest, jesus christ.

Then again would such a thing be better or worse than people nitpicking a translation of one scene in a non-canon Gundam novel.
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>>11110728
Apples and oranges, moron.
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>>11112554
Not after I get through with her if you know what I mean.
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>>11111472
Exactly but if they only used it once they wouldn't use it to describe what happened to those sides. They would just say sides got nuked and whatever colony was gassed to be used for the colony drop. Saying it like they did gives more credence to gassing more than one colony.
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>>11110728
yeah but then the titans made that less unique.
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>>11109479
this is not ok
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>>11109479
MmmmMmmm. Gundam needs more of this.
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Why do people like any of the women of 08th again?
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Kiki is around older men all the time, she is no stranger to sex, she is used to it.
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>>11112712
They're kawaii
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>>11112588
>>11111371
>>11110728
Actually, as far as I know, the only sources that mention Zeon gassing multiple colonies is Tomino's novels (and we know how much those tie into the timeline) and the Entertainment Bible series, specifically 1 and 39, which is where I think the mention of "thermonuclear and BC weapons" is made. Neither source is a particularly reliable place to get information regarding the mainstream animated continuity, and EB itself tends to contradict other databooks, sometimes even previous EB entries. EB also makes a habit of putting out outlandish claims, like 39 mentioning 1100 Zeon mobile suits participating in Operation Odessa alone. Strangely enough, this is also where the claims about Zeon aces shooting down hundreds of Federation MS comes from, which would make them veritable rape machines compared to Amuro if true, considering most of the higher scores were supposedly made during the Federation's space campaign, which was a relatively short period of time compared to the overall time Amuro spent in the Gundam.

Other than that, the only colony we see get gassed is Island Iffish in 08th MS Team. Gihren's Greed goes the extra mile to show Cima being the pilot of the very Zaku that Shiro watched gas the colony, which I thought was a nice touch. Origin similarly says that only one colony is gassed. It makes sense, considering that gas is not a reliable way to ensure the destruction of your target, and thus is impractical if your aim is to stop the Federation forces from mobilizing through show of force.

Either way, Gundam lore and backstory is something that's often presented in a very liberal manner in various databooks, and quoting it like historical fact has never been a very good way to approach it. In the animated continuity, gassing colonies has always been something more closely associated with the Titans than Zeon. Even Zeta tends to associate Zeon's use of G3 with the colony drop rather than widespread use of the stuff.
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>>11112541
>And I personally am mentally ill
That explains a lot.
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What the fuck is with all of these faggots insisting that Kiki's rape in the novel didn't happen and that our understanding of it is a botched translation?

In what universe do we live in where "undoing your pants + tearing off her clothes + 'let's make her into a woman' " does not equal them violently fucking her brains out?

Jesus Christ, these delusional "muh pure waifu" mother fuckers, I swear...
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>>11113120
>Other than that, the only colony we see get gassed is Island Iffish in 08th MS Team

It's not confirmed in animation that Shiro's colony in 08th MS Tem is Iffish.

> Gihren's Greed goes the extra mile to show Cima being the pilot of the very Zaku that Shiro watched gas the colony, which I thought was a nice touch.

Gihren's Greed is not canon and is contradicted by the Mayfly of Space animated short that has Cima in a Zaku II (and also implies that the colony gassing carried out by her is using a different method than the Colony Gasser in 08th MS Team.

> In the animated continuity, gassing colonies has always been something more closely associated with the Titans than Zeon.

Zeon gassing colonies is alluded to several times throughout Zeta. Whenever the Titans are said to be planning to gas colonies, they're invariably compared to Zeon.
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>>11113338
>Zeon gassing colonies is alluded to several times throughout Zeta. Whenever the Titans are said to be planning to gas colonies, they're invariably compared to Zeon.

Hardly conclusive. I mean look at real life, whenever someone does something negative they're inevitably compared to hitler. Of course after the one year war, if someone does something bad they're going to be compared to the increasingly with each new series nazi themed bad guys.
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>not canon
For now. In 10 more years Sunrise will dig all available opportunities to rewrite history, just to piss off people like you for a few more bucks from the remaining fans out there.
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>>11113338
>>11113338
>image
And the line immediately after...

As I said, it's still used to relation to the colony drop. As for why? Well, Zeon DID do it first. Thing is, outside of some extremely unreliable and outright unofficial databooks, Zeon is only really implied to have gassed Iffish, and for good reason, considering they wanted it intact. They had no reason to gas the others when nuclear weapons were far more effective at getting the job done.

>Gihren's Greed is not canon and is contradicted by the Mayfly of Space animated short that has Cima in a Zaku II (and also implies that the colony gassing carried out by her is using a different method than the Colony Gasser in 08th MS Team.
I never said it was canon, only that it was a nice touch by the staff behind the game.

>Zeon gassing colonies is alluded to several times throughout Zeta. Whenever the Titans are said to be planning to gas colonies, they're invariably compared to Zeon.

Well, as I said, Zeon pretty much started the trend. The titans are compared to Zeon quite often, not just for that reason alone.
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>>11113338
>It's not confirmed in animation that Shiro's colony in 08th MS Tem is Iffish.
The manga, which was written by the director, does indeed confirm it.
>inb4 not canon.
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>>11100993
actually doesn't your mind stop you from doing that shit. like even though your fingers are as strong as carrots you wont bite them off no matter how hard you try
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>>11113442
>Zeon is only really implied to have gassed Iffish
Except we have two different instances in animations of colony gassing. In 8th MS Team we have a Zaku burst into the colony and fire canisters. In Mayfly of Space we have canisters being hooked up and pumped into the colony with Zeon looking through the colony glass in horror.
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>>11113492
Only one way to find out anon, you willing to lose a finger trying though?
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>>11113546
Actually, she was floating in the middle of the colony, where there's no gravity.

No canisters involved. In fact, we don't know if she actually fired a canister at all, only that her unit was involved in the incident.
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>>11113546
>In Mayfly of Space we have canisters being hooked up and pumped into the colony with Zeon looking through the colony glass in horror.

Bullshit, all we see is Cima sitting looking into the colony horrified. We see no canisters whatsoever.
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>>11113120
>"thermonuclear and BC weapons"
Speaking of, do we ever get an idea of whether or not Zeon used biological weapons at all? All I've ever heard about is G3 and nukes.

The only biological weapon ever mentioned in Gundam at all is Astaroth, and that's not very useful in a colony.
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>>>11113631
Biological weapons seem like they'd be the least effective of the three categories in NBC. The whole point is usually to spread the disease, and rare does it cause immediate death like gas or nukes.

As >>11111472 mentioned, "NBC" weapons is just a blanket term for any weapons meant to cause mass death through nuclear, biological, or chemical means. It's used interchangeably with WMD quite often.

The notion that Zeon used gas or biological weapons on lots of colonies has always seemed downright stupid to me. You need multiple mobile suits equipped with colony gassers to kill the whole colony, and it takes time to wipe out the population. It's an involved operation as opposed to a simple volley. There's no point in gassing a colony unless you specifically want to keep it intact (case in point; Iffish.) Gundam Century, which is probably the oldest and most important fluff book regarding UC lore behind 0079, (and also the source that a lot of other sources build upon,) puts emphasis on the effective use of mobile suits and nuclear weapons (later books actually said that the mobile suits CARRIED nuclear weapons) to compensate for their lack of numbers at the OYW outbreak, implying that the majority of the colonies were indeed destroyed with nuclear weapons rather than poison gas, and the rest were simply destroyed by Musai mega particle cannon fire during the fighting (as seen in the MSG intro.)
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>>11107556
thank you for nice fap-material. I've never thought about Kiki on sexual sense before that picture, dammit
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Didn't Zeon gas the colonies so they could take them over as their own later? Plus, killing anyone that might have sided with the Fed garrisons?

I always imagined it as a parallel to the whole "we need breathing room" thing with Poland during WW2.

Gassing means that you just kill the inhabitants. The colony cylinder would still be quite useable and valuable to anyone who wants to move in and exploit things.
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>>11099689

At least I know now why I've never found any doujins of her.
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Weren't the two empty colonies being moved during operation stardust ones that were gassed during the OYW?
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>>11114140
I'd imagine chemical weapons in an isolated circulated air system might be a difficult thing to fully scrub. That and cleaning out all the bodies.

Easier than building a new colony, sure, but as far as I remember they just left them there as floating graveyards when a gassed colony was referenced later on.
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>>11112931
>Kawaii

>inb4 some butthurt fag shows up saying 'get off muh /m/ with yer /a/ bullshit'
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>>11114163
Missed hgundam, huh?
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>>11114172
As the movie version told it, those were formerly damaged colonies that had been repaired and were being bussed off to Side 3 to be set up as new colony space.

The program was actually bigger than what the OVA showed, those were just two colonies in the line.
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>>11109479

>suicide by biting your tongue

Does that actually work or is it anime bullshit?
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>>11113120

That makes a lot of sense. Better than random fanon.
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>>11114520

Its incredibly hard to bite your tongue off.
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>>11114188
No, the unilateral attacks were more of a show of force against the Federation designed to prevent them from effectively mobilizing through the destruction of the colonies and the fleets garrisoned there. Zeon had no interest in keeping the colonies intact for them to capture; that was more of a Cosmo Babylonia thing (hence why they used the Bugs and not gas.)
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>>11114534
erm, was meant for >>11114140
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>>11114520
Yes, it's just that the tongue is a muscle and very hard to bite off.
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>>11114163
They definitely exist. There's almost as much Kiki porn as there is Aina porn (and definitely more Kiki porn than Ghinius porn).
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Just because this board is work-safe.
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>>11114718
I was always curious why they were able to get away with nipple nudity in this episode but had Aina without them when they got to the hot-spring moment in episode 8.
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>>11114841
Because Kiki is... flatter...?
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>>11114711
Edit the hair to be yellow and pretend it's Ghinius.
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>>11114718
I'll post the normal version, since I'm nice.

>>11114861
Flat is always fine.
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>>11114841
The real question you should be asking is "How did they get away with underage nudity in this episode, while Aina (who was legal) did not?"
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>>11114905
I don't know how it is in Japan, but in many countries the legal age for pornography is the same as the age of consent (which makes perfect sense if you think about it).
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>>11114841
Well, consider this: Kiki's fanservice scene was in episode 2, and Aina's fanservice scene was in episode 7. Takeyuki Kanda was the director until episode four, after which he passed away, and the show was taken over Umanosuke Iida.

My guess would be that one director wanted to show some tits, while the other didn't.
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>>11114938
>My guess would be that one director wanted to show some tits

If memory serves, Episode 8 came out around the time Japan started a big push in removing nudity in general.

AKA the glory days of the full nude shots in Ranma 1/2 and others classic animation of the late 80s/90s was gone.
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>>11110646

Zeon being capable of evil was already established. The Feds are simply not as clean as they think. Jjust like how many U.S. and Soviet soldiers committed rape, but it doesn't make the Nazis any better
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>>11115169
But why? Why it has to be rape? We already know federations can be evil even from show implication, there's no need for drastic measures and ultra-personal violence like rape.

And the worst example I can think is Zinnerman's daughter by pic related
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Ehh, good thing it's not canon, so it's a moot point regardless.
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>>11115591
It probably has less to do with demonizing the Federation and instead contextualizing the Federation occupation of Side 3 in relation to the rapes that allegedly happened in US-occupied Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Japan
>inb4 nanking
Yes, the Japanese did horrific things to the chinese, similar to how the Zeon committed horrific atrocities to the Earth Sphere, but that doesn't mean the civilians in either case deserved what happened to them.
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>>11114938
Well, Umanosuke Iida is dead now too. Too bad.

He was the guy who worked on the Devilman and CB Go Nagai OVAs.

Nagai commented on how he looked like Totoro back then.
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>>11117226
I hate my country's military.
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>>11115591
The big problem with Fukui is more that, when it comes to tragic backstories, he uses rape for everyone.

Marida - repeatedly raped and had her babymaker removed
Zinnerman - family got raped, wants revenge
Angelo - got molested by stepdad, lived as a rentboy, then went FF fanboy
Loni - mother was killed by EF soldiers for trying to stop a rape. Whole family wants revenge.

It's like he's clinically incapable of doing a tragic backstory that doesn't involve someone being sexually assaulted.
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>>11117442
Don't forget that Alberto was apparently raped by Martha too.
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>>11117226
Of all the war crimes there are to choose from it seems only the Feds get slotted with the vilest.

Also, what >>11117373 said; Murken servicemen can drop dead.
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>>11117481
Actually, let me amend that.

>disservicemen

Fixed.
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>>11117481
>>>11117226
>Of all the war crimes there are to choose from it seems only the Feds get slotted with the vilest.
You mean aside from wiping out half the human race? I guess.
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>>11117613
There are some fates worse than death.
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>>11117442
The fuck, Fukui?!

I guess the 08th novels could've had a worse writer.
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>>11117226
Pffft the guys in Okinawa keep raping civillians (mostly schoolgirls) even NOW and they never get caught because the US military keeps flying them back to America before they can be tried or anything.
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>>11117442
Don't forget Angelo's mother being raped.
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>>11117965
>>11117520
>>11117226
>>11117481
Before this devolves into an "evil American military is evil" thread I'd just like to point out other countries have this issue as well; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_rape

>A senior British Army chaplain following the troops reported that there was a 'good deal of rape going on'. He then added that "those who suffer [rape] have probably deserved it.'
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>>11118191
Damn people are assholes.
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>>11117442
>Zinnerman - family got raped, wants revenge
He deserved it after what he did to Lady Lynx.
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So when do we get a story about Zeon getting Red Army on conquered populaces?
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>>11118208
Who?
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>>11119698
>Modern Gundam
>making Zeon look bad

They can't even have Zeon killing people nowadays without trying to handwave how all the buildings were empty because it was a holiday or how the melted babies were soldier babies so they don't count.
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>>11121293
Answers?
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>>11121293
Bump for answers.
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>>11119698
>>11121393
>implying the anime and the novels et al don't have enough scenes of Zeon doing terrible things
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>>11125887
>implying they were ever mentioned committing any of the gross depravity we're discussing
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>>11105302
Shrikes die in spurts. Three of them die one episode at a time when they first get introduced, then none of them die for a while, then the leader girl dies like halfway through the series, then like one more dies later on, then the rest of them die in the last episode.
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>>11126277
>What is sarcasm?
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>>11106584
Tangy, like a spicy, sweet scent with a hint of feminine body odor.

>tfw kiki will never squeak in virgin ecstacy as you greedily eat out her virgin cunt.
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>>11128555
Okouchi_coolface.jpg
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>>11112909
Uh-huh, and what is your rationale behind that conclusion?
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bitmap
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>>11134062
What the fuck would you want from this thread
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>>11134073
See >>11131984.
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>>11131984
Well?
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>>11131984
ANSWERS, DAMMIT!
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What is even going on ITT anymore?
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>>11141200
I don't know, but you're making it, ya fag.
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>>11118191
Come the fuck on, 99% of the time the local population wants nothing to do wit the war, and when you're dealing with the exceptions to the rules you don't want to hurt your chances of winning hearts and minds.
Assholes, the lot of them.
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>>11099689
He was beta as fuck anyway.
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>>11142547
>Shiro
>Beta
I can think of a billion character flaws with that guy...but being a beta wasn't one of them. He was actually quite assertive most of the time.
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>>11144344
Yeah, like in episode 3? Pathetic...
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>>11144378
Episode 3 he managed to get an entire village to follow him to battle after he peeped on their jailbait princess. You can't be beta and do that.

>"B-But anon! He let a 17 year old girl capture him when he was in a Gundam!"

No, he opened the cockpit to tell her to get the get off his Gundam, and was ambushed by a bunch of other armed villagers he didn't know were there. Then, when she asked why he was peeping at her if she was "just a kid," he, at gunpoint, tells Kiki that it's because she's a hot piece of ass right to her face and in front of all the scary men that were just beating the crap out of him.

Less than an an hour later, he was leading them to battle, and Kiki spent the rest of the series aching for his dick.

Shiro may be a retard, but he's a pretty alpha retard.
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>>11142547

He ripped off his Gundam's arm to beat an enemy ace with it.

>beta as fuck
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>>11109479
But I can keep calling this non-canon, right?
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>>11144441
>not animated
It's not even worth remembering it exists.
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>>11144441
>Novel
>ever canon in the first place
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>>11144420
I've never seen so much blatant reaching in one post in my life.
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>>11144482
Not even him, but if you're going to call a post (that was half-joking to begin with) shit and then do literally nothing to refute it then absolutely no one cares.
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>>11144441
Amuro died in the MSG novel, so no, the novels aren't canon
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>>11144420
He allowed a village of unreasonable hold him up on a time-sensitive mission so they could twist his arm into doing what he was going to do anyway. All they did was waste his time and nearly sod over his team for no goddamn reason.
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>>11144757
Well, he's only human. What's he going to do, Jet Li his way out of the well-armed village?

The only reason he got caught in the first place was because he was taken by surprise when he opened his cockpit. Like I said, a retard, but no beta. In fact, beta gets thrown around a lot for things it's not meant to apply to. It's the new "edgy" (or is "edgy" the new "beta?" I don't remember anymore.)
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>>11099689
I forget; doesn't she hook up with that one kid on the team?
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>>11144826
She helps him out when searching for Shiro, but I don't think they hook. up. He's still got his GF back on the colony after all.
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>>11146555
Then he's a hell of a lot more loyal than a lot of servicemen
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>>11146555
>He's still got his GF back on the colony after all.
That "GF" you speak of married another guy.

Both Kiki and that guy whose name I can't recall both end up in the loser camp.
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>>11146566
Shit, guess he should've tapped the fuck out of it then.
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