Serbian literature appreciation thread

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Post some recommendations OP.

>>7693400
1. (pic related) A fuckin' monstrosity- probably the best account of Bosnia and it's folk: myself being a Bosnian Serb. If you've heard about the war in Bosnia in the '90s, this book might give you some insight as it was mandatory reading for NATO generals that participated in the conflict.
2. Death and the Dervish- by Mesa Selimovic
3. Gorski Vijenac/The Mountain Wreath- by Petar Petrovic Njegos

>>7693392

Danilo Kis - Encylopedia of the Dead

he's pretty much a Serbian Borges. too fucking good.

Black Lamb and Grey Falcon. not 'Serbian', but written by an English women who spent a lot of time in the Balkans in the 1930s, basically experience of her travels around then Yugoslavia

>>7693417
Sounds good, thanks.

>>7693392

>Ivo Andrić
>Serb

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>>7693464
I expected this.
Yes, he himself insisted on it. He was a Yugoslav diplomat, but he said in numerous occasions that he considers himself a Serb.
(pic related) It's his ID and it's in cyrillic (Croats only write in Latin, as opposed to Serbs that use both scripts).
The ID contains the usual info, but the most important one is the nationality section- it says serbian.

>>7693476
He was born to Croatian parents then when he couldn't break through decided to be a serb and then near the end of his life decided to be a Croat.
But most of his famous works can be said to be written in Serbian. He is really the only 'yugoslav' author.

Also
Ekipa Interlieber /lit/ autizm meetup kad? Bio sam prošle godine, idem opet i ove.
I naravno, nisam cura da ne morate pitati

>>7693489
Vjelikosrbska agresija? Srboslavija?
Daj ne seri, mrsko mi je debatovati Jugu, bila je kurac goli, ali zelim da ti kazem da nije bilo srpske dominacije...
Ni poslije Titove smrti (a moras priznati da je za jednog Hrvata dobro sjebao Srbe- autonomija Vojvodine i Kosova, znamo za Kosovo '98 party s Siptarima, a Vojvodina i Sandzak su na putu otcjepljenja).
Samo da spomenem knjizevnost i jezik, s obzirom da smo na /lit/u: Srpsko-hrvatski/Hrvatsko-srpski je unazadio nase ''jezike'' za minimum 100 godina.

>>7693516
Dominacija je postojala što je očito na porezu koji je većinom išao u beograd. Naravno bila je kurac za sve, ali mi smo ga primili dublje.
Tito je kurac i slažem se za 'srpsko-hrvatski', čitao sam stare prijevode Shakespearea koji su daleko superiornij suvremenim uz ostale stvari za srednju.

>>7693516
bog je srb, ko so vo je srce srbije, and so on

>>7693548
E vidis li gresku u rezonu? Beograd =/= Srbi(ja)...
Taj idiotizam da ''svi putevi vode u Beograd'' je mnogo vise ostetio Srbe, ne znam koliko si upucen u apsolutni shit-tier zivot u ostatku Srbije i R.Srpske.
Ko je primio vise/dublje bi trebalo da podstakne dijalog u cilju pomirenja i demonizacije (opravdane) crvene posasti.

>>7693550
Moj dobri katolicki prijatelju, papa vas je jebao daleko vise nego susjed Srb(in) koji vjeruje da su Bog, Ahil, Aleksandar Veliki i dr. Srbi.

>>7693430
>Danilo Kis
This is all you need know.

>>7693548
>beograd
Kek, prijatelju, pa i danas sve ide tamo.

t. Novi Sad

>>7693392
>serbian

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>>7693392
>he fell for the 'Andrić was Serbian' meme

>>7693630
>>7693639

See >>7693476

t. Bosnian Serb

>>7693610
Onda se slažemo zapravo. Beograd je sve vukao i sve sjebao.
>>7693622
Nisam rekao da ne ide.

>>7693676
Simpaticno je kako hoces da mi nametnes neki kompromis.
Hrvatski i slovenacki separatizam su sjebali sve. Mogli smo zivjeti u post-socijalistickoj konfederaciji da niste insistirali na nezavisnosti.

>>7693693
Jebi ga da niste inzistirali na genocidu i da nije bilo terora 40 godina možda.

>>7693701
Genocidu?
Pomozi mi molim te, je l' pricamo o Jasenovcu ili o akcijama OlujaxBljesak?

>>7693718
>>7693701

can't we all just get along
ozbiljno doe, mnogo je dosadno slusati o genocidima i titu svaki put kad se pomene balkan ovde na /lit/u. dovoljno sam se tih sranja naslusao u zivotu, ovde je zaista samo preterivanje.

Albanian literature is richer, un-ironically.

>>7693769
Ja bih zaista volio, ali svaki (ALI BUKVALNO SVAKI) Hrvat s kojim sam razgovarao optuyuje Srbe za genocid, velikosrpsku agresiju i sl.
Fakat je da je sranja bilo na sve strane, i nadam se da ce svaki Srbin koji je pocinio zlocin patiti najstrasnije u najdubljim kazamatima ili vjesanjem, medjutim, ne dozvoljavam da se krivica svaljuje na Srbe. (h)istorijska je cinjenica da je rat poceo tako sto su Hrvati proglasili nezavisnost, a kad je to i RS Krajina uradili, dozivjela je agresiju od strane Hrvata, tek onda je JNA i Armija RSK pocela dejstva protiv Hrvatske.

Can anyone here upload or point me to where I can find these rec's? Except for OPs pic.

>>7693810
mobilism or libgen

>>7693548
>čitao sam stare prijevode Shakespearea koji su daleko superiornij suvremenim uz ostale stvari za srednju.
Koji prijevodi? Ja sam ga uglavnom čitao u originalu, pa nisam bogzna koliko upoznat s prijevodima.

>>7693489
>Ekipa Interlieber /lit/ autizm meetup kad?
Predlažem sljedeći Interliber.

>>7693392
the whole balkan region seems like the result of centuries-long turko-marxist dysgenic experiment to create the most dumbass race

>>7693916
I take it, then, that you've visited the Balkans, right? I'm sure you wouldn't talk out of your ass.

dragoslav mihailović - kad su cvetale tikve

>>7693916
this whole post seems like the result of centuries-long judeo-marxist dysgenic experiment to create the most dumbass anon

>>7693392
The face on the right looks like Nemanja Vidíc.

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>>7693928
rekt

>>7693928

kek

>>7693693
Šuti idiote. Srbski nacionalizam je sve poceo.

>>7693785
Ahhh budale

Watch the first 20min of http://youtu.be/M_PzsfXbyAw

It's made by your British friends so don't complain about it being biased

>>7695918
Ja sam Australki-Srbin, i za zadnji sest meseci studirao sam rat Kosovo za skoski projecat. Ako je Milosevicin ponasanje o tu situaciu isto za celi Yugoslavin rat, onda nije bas nesto ni on radio da pomogne celi nasionalcki problem.

Izvini ako moj Sprski nije naj bolji.

>>7693476
>dan mesec i godina rodjenja
>10 X 1892 Bosna
so much for literacy. kek

>>7695953
TOJE BILO ZA >>7693693

>>7695953
Other Serb nationalists in Kosovo seemed to have fired up his nationalism (through lies about what was being done to them by the Albanians). Honestly out of the politicians in ex-Yu, Milosevic is really embarrassing, he comes of as an uneducated thug stuck on repeat.

>Both parents Catholics = Serb
Ok

>>7693476

God I wish you people would fuck off with this ethnic shit. It's like talking about being an ethnic north versus south dakotan. If you belong to a certain culture, so be it, but there's no need to try to attach it to some bloodline horseshit.

>>7695972
There are catholic and muslim Serbs. Being a Serb is not a religion mate.

>no Pavić

>>7695995
It's subhuman balk mentality, you cannot change it, they're like the nigs of Europe
>we wuz kangs
>NO WE WUZ RRREEEAAL KANGS
>NO NO NO WEEEEE WUZ REAL KAAANGS

>>7695971
Can you give me any sources for the part about Serbs lying? From what I understand, being a Serb in Kosovo was always quite dangerous. I do know that tensions really flaired up when Milosevic passed that legislation in the early 90s, that put a lot of Albanians out of jobs. I assumed that was one of the major catalysts for an organised, united push for autonomy.

>>7696080
>It's subhuman balk mentality, you cannot change it, they're like the nigs of Europe

Well, at least we dont go around blowing immigrants left and right.

>>7696150
Let them be smug, they will have their muslim genocides and civil wars soon enough.

>>7695995
>It's like talking about being an ethnic north versus south dakota
There's your problem, senpai. Americunts can't into culture and heritage, therefore you'll never understand. ;)

>>7695920
British friends? Whose friends? The British bombed Yugoslavia (Serbia) in '99, I'm hoping you're not that deluded... They're Serbian no.2 or no.3 enemy... The other's being the US at no.1 and Germany as the other contender for second place.

Srbja smirise

Nobody yet mentioned dictionary of the khazars, great book

>>7696136
Watch the Death of Yugoslavia BBC doc, link of which is a few posts above. A Serb nationalist leader from Kosovo tells quite openly what they did, and how they "tricked" Milosevic.

>>7696414
Balkans get no credit for protecting Europe from the Ottomans and even less empathy for being under them for 400+ years. That's why the Balkan spirit is constantly rebellious.

>>7697761
What started out as "Fuck you (Ottoman) oppressor!" became a general distrust of anyone not within the clan. Other nations in Europe were free to move towards unity over those 400 years they were not occupied, where the Balkan nations either abandoned their heritage and became Muslim or resisted and stayed in splintered cells of tribalism and general distrust. That's why Tito's call to brotherhood was so great, it was attempting to undo all these years in one emergency package. The idiots like Milosovic who really was just a figure head of deeper village idiocy.

>>7696429
Everyone was Sebian enemy because you went mental as a nation and were overtaken by "Greater Serbia" mentality. It says something about you when your 2nd closest traditional ALLY (by power, after Russia) has enough of your shit.

Your kings always escape to the UK when going gets tough. House of Karadojorevic etc.

>>7697716
i'll check it out, I understand that BBC provided reasonably balanced coverage on the war.

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listen even if i am bik hairy sveaty stalinist, my god, I am still born Ljubljana and so on

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>>7698826
>he begins to pump sweat like he's a water treatment plant as soon as a vagina gets within 50 yards

Goran Skrobonja - The Man who killed Tesla
Sci-Fi, Alternative Universes, real good stuff

>>7698841
>implying you don't, too

>>7697854
My God... You really fell for the ''All Serbs want a Greater Serbia'' meme... Wew, lad.

>>7698785

it has it's bias against serbia, but is still a stellar documentary

>>7698844
Don't listen to this retard, only good Serbian sci-fi/horror is Besnilo by Borislav Pekic (think of high concept Cronenberg's Rabid) and books by Ilija Bakic (not sure if translated).

>>7696004
But it literally is.
Muslim balkan Slavs = Bosnians
Orthodox balkan Slavs = Serbs
Catholic balkan Slavs = Croats

>>7699947
Oversimplified... You know very well they were different tribes (Croats and Serbs at least), Bosniaks aren't a nation in the real sense of the word, but they try to be.

>>7693417
Death and the Dervish seconded, but, Serbian?

>>7700107
>500 years under Turkish rule

Surely the language stayed intact

>>7693392
Does anyone have this ebook?

>>7700276
libgen motherfucker

>>7700299
It's a pdf, faggot. Why would I want that?

>>7699975

Bosniaks are nation, you chauvinistic faggot!

BTW, Ivo Andrić and Meša Selimović are Bosnian writers.

is there a good book that really explains the shit that happened in the 90s that isn't blatantly biased?

>>7700408
Any book on Rwanda and similar tribal conflicts

Or wikipedia definition of meme and its historical thread

Case of Charles Dexter Ward and Curwen - Willet showdown may also serve as an example.

>>7697854
>Everyone was Sebian enemy because you went mental as a nation and were overtaken by "Greater Serbia" mentality

No, it's the same thing Joyce tried saying about Ireland -- the complexes of a small, irrelevant nation.

Balkan is, well, Balkanised, and ever tiny shithole wants to be something more than that, which is, of course, not gonna happen.

Thinking that everyone is against you makes you feel important; but in actuality, no one gives a fuck.

After this display of maturity here I'm sure that every single foreigner will be absolutely enchanted by the idea of reading our Balkanaut books.

>>7700605
is that your real name?

>>7699861
Not at all, the nationalists clearly do, and to them it's pointed out what they're doing. With other Serbs, and there's a few here, we can talk about unity and our common, shared ground. It's not that difficult to understand, if I'm against the Nazis doesn't mean I'm against the Germans. Basics.

>>7699906
Thanks for callin' me a retard.
Besnilo (Rabies) is a better example for foreigners.
Nice choice.

>>7700458
That's exactly what I was saying. The nationalist Serbs, who were in power and set the course of the whole nation, thought that everyone was their enemy and after them - and by that made a kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.

>>7701070
>nationalist Serbs
They were in power when? Serbian nationalism ceased to exist when Karadžić decided to write in folk Štokavian instead of proper Slavoserbian.

>>7699901
>A documentary about Nazi Germany has a bias against Germany.
H'okay.

Truly that BBC documentary cannot be said to have bias against Serbs, stop with the nonsense.

>>>/int/
>>>/ex-yu/

Jebene pederčine, morate zasrati svaki thread koji možete, je li?

>>7699562
true, but I do it out of sexual frustration and social anxiety, Slav here does it because he's overwhelmed by his own speculation into the imaginary properties of superficial expressions of femininity in the Lacanian sense.

>>7701123
The Slav is our objet petit a. And this I tell you as a German.

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>>7701198
Das ist der Penismödchenmann.

>>7701118
Pa ono govorimo o srbima, što oni ne zaseru?

>>7693392
Vasko Popa, Oskar Davičo, Macedonian poet Kočo Racin wrote in Serbian and Croatian.

>>7693898
Hrvatski prijevodi Shakespearea su očajni.

>>7700408
Not really, Croatians write about how they were oppressed by Serbians, Serbians about how Croatians didn't leave them without any choice, Bosnians about staying alive through the genocide, and Americans about how they saved Bosnians from that genocide .

>>7701227
>>>/int/55130259

>>7701273
Opet - nisam ih puno čitao, ali Torbarina mi je izgledao više-manje prihvatljiv. Jesi li njega čitao?

>>7701098
What are you saying? Milosevic was not in power, or that he was not a nationalist? Both of these are equally absurd.

>>7701303
Nisam, ali nagovaram prijatelja da posudi. Čitao sam prijevode Bogdanovića, Marasa, Mrkonjića i Čorak.
Ali ipak, najbolje je čitati na engleskome jeziku.

>>7700961
Anyone who reccommends Skrobonja, horrible translator and a worse writer is a retard or a shill.

>>7701257
Tends to happen when it's the same language.

>>7700605
>tripfag caring about identity politics

have a (You)pvote.

To foreigners and others:

I would definitely reccommend Crnjanski but I have no idea how well he's translated into English. His biographical prose is on par with, say, Hemingway's A Moveable Feast, especially Embahade (a memoir about diplomatic service in thirties's Berlin).

>>7701303
Soneti su uglavnom vrlo loše prevođeni, a problem s dramama je to što Shakespeare koristi puno poštapalica i igara riječi, što je teško prevesti na bilo koji drugi jezik, ali ima i prijevoda koji nisu ni slični originalu.

>>7701340
Really?

>>7701360
Yes, really.

>>7701335
>Marasa
I njega sam malo pogledao. Bacio pogled u Macbetha. Stihovi u prvom činu uopće nisu tekli. Torbarina mi je tamo definitivno bio bolji. (Čak sam ga malo i zapamtio - "Ružno je lijepo, a lijepo je ružno / lebdimo kroz maglu i uzdušje kužno")

>>7701354
Normalno da se igre riječi gube. A Midsummer Night's Dream je jedina njegova stvar koju sam cijelu pročitao prevedenu. Tek sam kasnije pročitao original i hvatao se za glavu kad sam shvatio zašto se Bottom zove Bottom...

Kad već spominjem AMSND, je li itko ovdje vidio predstavu u Gavelli?

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>>7700408
Yugoslavia: Death of a Nation - Laura Silber
Balkan Tragedy - Susan Woodward

Didn't gaskun kill one of these people? Now that'd make for some great literature to be honest family.