No I mean I read past the preface where he's like "when the aztecs want to drink blood sacrifice, show them what is on the end of the fork" or something. Then the very next page, it's just completely incomprehensible gibberish.
>>7689871 speaking of hilarious, here's a funny scene from it
"Dr. Benway is operating in an auditorium filled with students: “Now, boys, you won’t see this operation performed very often and there’s a reason for that…. You see it has absolutely no medical value. No one knows what the purpose of it originally was or if it had a purpose at all. Personally I think it was a pure artistic creation from the beginning.
“Just as a bull fighter with his skill and knowledge extricates himself from danger he has himself invoked, so in this operation the surgeon deliberately endangers his patient, and then, with incredible speed and celerity, rescues him from death at the last possible split second…. Did any of you ever see Dr. Tetrazzini perform? I say perform advisedly because his operations were performances. He would start by throwing a scalpel across the room into the patient and then make his entrance like a ballet dancer. His speed was incredible: ‘I don’t give them time to die,’ he would say. Tumors put him in a frenzy of rage. ‘Fucking undisciplined cells!’ he would snarl, advancing on the tumor like a knife-fighter.”"
>>7689915 Books might just not be for you. Maybe try Hop on Pop or the Hunger Games and see if one of those is more your speed. I'm sure you have a TV. Or buy a comic book so there's lots of pretty pictures to help explain the plot for you. Go back to pretending you've read 1984 on arbooks.
>>7689975 Look, I get it, your momma told you that you wuz smart, and if you can't understand the book, nobody else can, right? It's not like tens of thousands of people, including scholars, have read the book and found it difficult, but completely comprehensible, right? No, they must all be pretending.
>>7689992 So this is what shit posting looks like on /lit/. I come from /mu/ where we have our own special version of assholes like you. I'm just getting into reading. So far I've read story of the eye, the metamorphosis, the wasp factory, and in the miso soup. This book is pretty incomprehensible. If you want to try to piece together what he's saying, good on you man. You really do look like a pretentious asshole if you expect others to actually give a flying fuck about trying to paste together garbled gibberish.
>>7690000 >I'm just getting into reading. So you're outright admitting you have no basis for argument? How about reading more before you post, and start with the fucking greeks instead of trying to tackle the "cool" texts which are obviously beyond your grasp at the moment.
>Did I ever tell you about the man who taught his asshole to talk? His whole abdomen would move up and down you dig farting out the words. It was unlike anything I ever heard. >This ass talk had sort of a gut frequency. It hit you right down there like you gotta go. You know when the old colon gives you the elbow and it feels sorta cold inside, and you know all you have to do is turn loose? Well this talking hit you right down there, a bubbly, thick stagnant sound, a sound you could smell. >This man worked for a carnival you dig, and to start with it was like a novelty ventriliquist act. Real funny, too, at first. He had a number he called “The Better ‘Ole” that was a scream, I tell you. I forget most of it but it was clever. Like, “Oh I say, are you still down there, old thing?” >“Nah I had to go relieve myself.” >After a while the ass start talking on its own. He would go in without anything prepared and his ass would ad-lib and toss the gags back at him every time. >Then it developed sort of teeth-like little raspy in-curving hooks and started eating. He thought this was cute at first and built an act around it, but the asshole would eat its way through his pants and start talking on the street, shouting out it wanted equal rights. It would get drunk, too, and have crying jags nobody loved it and it wanted to be kissed same as any other mouth. Finally it talked all the time day and night, you could hear him for blocks screaming at it to shut up, and beating it with his fist, and sticking candles up it, but nothing did any good and the asshole said to him: “It’s you who will shut up in the end. Not me. Because we dont need you around here any more. I can talk and eat and shit.” >After that he began waking up in the morning with a transparent jelly like a tadpole’s tail all over his mouth. This jelly was what the scientists call un-D.T., Undifferentiated Tissue, which can grow into any kind of flesh on the human body. He would tear it off his mouth and the pieces would stick to his hands like burning gasoline jelly and grow there, grow anywhere on him a glob of it fell. So finally his mouth sealed over, and the whole head would have have amputated spontaneous — (did you know there is a condition occurs in parts of Africa and only among Negroes where the little toe amputates spontaneously?) — except for the eyes you dig. Thats one thing the asshole couldn’t do was see. It needed the eyes. But nerve connections were blocked and infiltrated and atrophied so the brain couldn’t give orders any more. It was trapped in the skull, sealed off. For a while you could see the silent, helpless suffering of the brain behind the eyes, then finally the brain must have died, because the eyes went out, and there was no more feeling in them than a crab’s eyes on the end of a stalk. This book is 5/5
>>7690000 >Quads Listen, bud, I'm sorry for acting like a douche. I get emotional about this book because its the book that convinced me to finally kick opiates. It's not incomprehensible, but it's very difficult, and it requires a little bit more reading experience than it looks like you have. Again, sorry for lashing out. If you'd like a Burroughs text that explores a lot of the same themes and has a similar aesthetic but it a lot easier for the neophyte, you should check out Cities of the Red Night. It's not a breezy read, but with some work you can piece it together and it's a great experience.
>>7690000 Man, it's just a grotesque, neon-colored cartoon filled with slapstick and grimy sex. More the kind of thing you let wash over you rather than trying to parse out explicit meaning phrase-by-phrase. If that's not your style, then fine, but don't act haughty because you dislike something; that's idiotic.
>from /mu/ >special version of assholes like you Do tell. Are you the kind of guy who's flabbergasted by the idea that people could enjoy noise?
>>7690066 >Are you the kind of guy who's flabbergasted by the idea that people could enjoy noise? noise is one of my favorite genres. I was inspired to read william s burroughs because genesis p orridge is one of the most inspirational people to me in my life.
>>7690082 Huh. Interesting that you can appreciate stuff like TG and have such a strong negative reaction to Naked Lunch.
But seriously, who are the assholes on /mu/ you were talking about? Noise is the genre with the biggest contingent of "the emperor has no clothes, you guys are just pretending to like this" naysayers as far as I'm aware
>>7690096 Well, the reason I'm not enjoying naked lunch, is because I read paragraph after paragraph and it seems like the paragraphs don't really connect to one another. I'm just left feeling with that awful nagging doubt that I missed some sort of meaning, which is my least favorite feeling when reading a book. So, often instead of going back and just trying to figure out what it was I don't understand, I just keep reading and taking in more and more incomprehensible text. I wouldn't compare text to noise, because listening to sound is simply a matter of letting what's entering your head in passively. There's no real skill to listening to music except being attentive to what you're listening to, it doesn't need to be deciphered in any way besides what it makes you feel, as a reaction to simply being attentive. So, it's not a fair comparison what so ever. I am interested to know what people actually enjoy about Naked Lunch.
>>7690152 Yeah, what the other guy said (and what I said initially), it's meant to be impressionistic. Just take it in. Chances are you didn't miss anything, even if it makes literally zero sense. Focus on how you feel while reading it, and maybe look out for some recurring symbolism. Approach it like you would approach understanding a dream, or a drug trip if you do that sort of thing.
I enjoyed it for its strange sense of humor, the frantic, disordered way in which it moves, and the occasionally beautiful writing peaking out through all the ugly shit.
Also, I'd contest that music requires more than just being a passive vessel for what you're hearing, but that's not really relevant to the discussion at hand.
>>7690173 Naked Lunch is not absurdism you dumbbell
>>7690196 >Also, I'd contest that music requires more than just being a passive vessel for what you're hearing, but that's not really relevant to the discussion at hand. Well, I suppose I'd even argue with myself over that. The thing is, music requires a lot of attention, because it is a meditative process. Often times when I want to enjoy an album fully, I close my eyes and lay on the floor, and only listen to the album. Music does require concentration in order to derive the emotional highs you get from the songs. If you break your concentration, you could lose the cold chill down your spine from listening to whatever it is you're listening to, or lose the immersion. So, I guess in some ways listening to music is actually like taking drugs, but I'm no music theorist and my guess is as good as yours. If you know any essays that are relevant to this topic please recommend them.
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