Some interesting facts that we learn in this book: James Bond

No matter how charming Bond comes off in the films, the written Bond is a whole different animal. Hearing his inner monologue is enough to make you want to tear your eyes out. He doesn't consider women to be human, or people. He also makes horrible stereotypes about everyone in the book who is not a white British man. He also gets really turned on at the thought of rape, although he never rapes anyone in this book. It's very disturbing to read about.

Also, to all the women who think James Bond is really hot - you may think that about the movie character but I seriously doubt you would feel the same about the book character. Constantly described as cold, harsh, brutal, cruel, ruthless, and hard (over and over and over) by Fleming, Bond is hardly someone you'd want to have a relationship with - or even a one-night-stand. He describes women in this book as: beasts, wretches, fools, idiots, and bitches. A LOT. He tends to go off on long, sexist/racist rants in his head. Also, his idea of sex is always described as: ravishment, ravaging, 'bending her to his will,' or a way to 'coldly...put his body to the test.'

When Vesper gets kidnapped at one point, he is furious with her and curses her out. He makes the cold, logical decision that her life doesn't matter (since she is an agent) and plans accordingly - her death is acceptable. When both she and Bond are kidnapped and in the back of a car being driven to god-knows-where to be raped or tortured, Bond is TURNED ON by how sexy she looks with bound and with her legs exposed. ON HIS WAY TO BE TORTURED, this is what he's thinking - about a woman who is helpless and probably about to be gang-raped. I mean, this is a sick, sick man here.

Bond is told that he's going to be paired with another agent and he's shocked and appalled to find out that his partner is female. Of course the woman, Vesper Lynd, is amazingly good-looking and Bond alternates throughout the book with his warring feelings of contempt for her and wanting to f*ck her.

No matter how charming Bond comes off in the films, the written Bond is a whole different animal. Hearing his inner monologue is enough to make you want to tear your eyes out. He doesn't consider women to be human, or people. He also makes horrible stereotypes about everyone in the book who is not a white British man. He also gets really turned on at the thought of rape, although he never rapes anyone in this book. It's very disturbing to read about.

Also, to all the women who think James Bond is really hot - you may think that about the movie character but I seriously doubt you would feel the same about the book character. Constantly described as cold, harsh, brutal, cruel, ruthless, and hard (over and over and over) by Fleming, Bond is hardly someone you'd want to have a relationship with - or even a one-night-stand. He describes women in this book as: beasts, wretches, fools, idiots, and bitches. A LOT. He tends to go off on long, sexist/racist rants in his head. Also, his idea of sex is always described as: ravishment, ravaging, 'bending her to his will,' or a way to 'coldly...put his body to the test.'

When Vesper gets kidnapped at one point, he is furious with her and curses her out. He makes the cold, logical decision that her life doesn't matter (since she is an agent) and plans accordingly - her death is acceptable. When both she and Bond are kidnapped and in the back of a car being driven to god-knows-where to be raped or tortured, Bond is TURNED ON by how sexy she looks with bound and with her legs exposed. ON HIS WAY TO BE TORTURED, this is what he's thinking - about a woman who is helpless and probably about to be gang-raped. I mean, this is a sick, sick man here.

I think it's fair to mention that Bond's genitals are brutally tortured for an hour by Le Chiffre. After this ordeal, Bond spends a lot of time in the hospital recovering. I liked that Fleming wasn't trying to make him some super-human who recovers immediately. Of course, Bond eventually decides that taking Vesper to bed will be the perfect test to make sure his make sure his equipment is still functioning properly.

I understand that these books are classics and that James Bond is an icon. I really do. And I understand why people love the books - adventure, torture, being a spy who is rich, beds tons of women, and travels to exotic places. It's not that I don't understand the appeal of this pulp fiction. Wholly unrealistic, it's a fantasy. Real, actual spywork (I'd imagine) is NOTHING like the government giving you millions of pounds to gamble away, pairing you up with a sexy female agent that they are fine with you having sex with, and setting you up in a resort-like location where your every whim is catered to. Because that's your 'cover.' *rolls eyes

don't blame anyone for loving, enjoying, and gobbling up these books. However, as a woman in 2014 I just can't ignore the screaming, in-your-face racism and sexism that permeates every page of this novel.

Fleming is a good author - there are some gems in here, some great lines and some deep philosophical pondering on Bond's part (this surprised me, he's usually very shallow). Also, no one can write a long villain speech like Fleming can. Le Chiffre's long speech to Bond about how he's going to torture him and there's no hope is wonderful and can be perfectly imagined playing out on the big screen. Classic.

Tl;dr - Exciting spy novel drenched in misogyny and racism

th-thanks keep me posted

Seriously though the Bond novels are great afternoon reads.

Yeah, so what if she gave a one star rating because of sexist Bond?

>ITT OP is too lazy to screencap and make a 1-star review thread, or OP is too lazy to create original b8
>tl;dr OP is lazy, drenched in his father's gay cum

>>7669043
James Bond is fan fiction and wish-fulfillment written by cruel man. He wrote just to kill time because he was bored of his wife, and was bored of his life and he missed the WW2 days when his xenophobia was vindicated and he decided on matters of life and death every day.

However, if Fleming could do one thing in life, apart from seducing women and treat them like shit, was writing. The guy can write atmosphere, he can write absurdly entertaining backstories, can write dialog and can write sex.

I suggest to you, OP to read Moonraker. The plot is totally outlandish so the style is more visible. You mention that the card scenes are boring, but MR has one chapter dedicated to a card game, and is one of the best things Fleming wrote. Also has a female that refuses to have sex with him.

If you want another view on Fleming's misoginy try reading the short story Quantum of Solace, which is a thinly veiled recounting of his own marriage, or his worst reviewed book The Spy Who Loved Me, where he puts himself in the skin of a Bond girl (even recounting the story on how he lose his virginity from the POV of the girl).

>>7669059
>as a woman
Stopped reading there.

>>7669043
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>>7669059
y-you too

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Some interesting facts that we learn in this book
>Fleming was a racist

That doesn't mean that they aren't good. there is one scene in Live and Let Die during an airplane ride that is so fucking cool (entirely inner monologue about death and fear)

>>7671721
>Bond doesn't want to have sex with Solitaire because he fears that his broken finger weakens his sex-techniques

The man is a perfectionist

Le Carre is better.

I know this is bait he probably just copy/pasted from goodreads but why would anyone expect something from the 50s to not be "offensive" by contemporary standards?

>>7671784
CURRENT YEAR

>>7671746
Good laugh. Thanks!

>>7671783
Tinker Tailor is one of the best post war British novels but you can't really compare the two

>>7671784
Because authors from the past should have been able to foresee the future and what the standards in the future would be.

You know, I keep saying that future generations will vilify our generation for how we treat pedophiles.