I think we judge him a little too harshly in kind of a "its fun to hate on him way".
I never read him though so I looked up one of his works.
" "May I ask how you've come by this information, sir?" Hallorann closed his eyes. "What's your name, fellow?" "Tom Staunton, sir." "Well, Tom, I know. Now I'll be just as straight with you as I can be. There's bad trouble up there. Maybe killin bad, do you dig what I'm sayin?" "Mr. Hall, I really have to know how you — " "Look," Hallorann had said. "I'm telling you I know. A few years back there was a fellow up there name of Grady. He killed his wife and his two daughters and then pulled the string on himself. I'm telling you it's going to happen again if you guys don't haul your asses out there and stop it!" "Mr. Hall, you're not calling from Colorado." "No. But what difference — " "If you're not in Colorado, you're not in CB range of the Overlook Hotel. If you're not in CB range you can't possibly have been in contact with the, uh ..." Faint rattle of papers. "The Torrance family. While I had you on hold I tried to telephone. It's out, which is nothing unusual. There are still twenty-five miles of aboveground telephone lines between the hotel and the Sidewinder switching station. My conclusion is that you must be some sort of crank." "Oh man, you stupid ..." But his despair was too great to find a noun to go with the adjective. Suddenly, illumination. "Call them!" he cried"
>>7668270 >he just wrote whatever was in his head without bothering to change the language or make it sound decent.
If you read On Writing, you'll find out this is pretty much his style of writing. He urges writers to just write whatever comes to your head. And when he goes back to edit, it's mostly just to do stuff like get rid of adverbs and change any instance of the passive voice into the active.
>>7668177 guy's a fucking weirdo. look at him with his sneakers kicked up like that. big time bullshit artist. his work den probably looks more like whitney's crack house or MJ's pedo house full of feces and cocaine based on the quality of his lit
It's often said of King, and I can confirm it from my reading of him (not extensive, but more than one book), that he sets things up well and writes in a page-turning manner, but he isn't strong with endings. From wat I understand, he generally doesn't know how his stories are going to end until he writes the endings. I actually think this goes hand-in-hand with his success as a horror writer, i.e., that it fits well with the nature of horror and its focus on uncertainty, fear, and so on. I wonder whether other writers of horror can be said to buck that or whether it's a general tendency. (Maybe it often holds with mystery too; I understand for example that Eco didn't know who was guilty in The Name of the Rose until he got to that point in the writing.)
>>7668996 It's not bad, but it's the sort of thing anyone could write. Most things about his writing aren't bad (other than his tendency to go on and on long after he has any idea of what he wants to do with a particular story because he doesn't use outlines and set concrete goals as far as length goes) per-se, just average and underwhelming stylistically and conceptually.
Mediocrity is what sells, and when /lit/ complains about people like him, that's what it's complaining about.
actually the first section of Hearts in Atlantis, were it published as a standalone Novella, could certainly mistaken for passible Lit, there's very little spookiness and it's genuinely moving, eery and to some extent thematically rewarding.
I recognize that there's plenty of horror and mystery that's not deep or substantial, but there are also titles from among the most respected in literature that can be put in those categories. The Turn of the Screw comes to mind for horror, along with some of Borges, who has some mysteries too. The Brothers Karamazov is (among other things) a mystery.
Hearts In Atlantis is by far my favourite King book.
It's a book of short stories that tie together (and tie together with The Dark Tower), all themed around growing up in America in and around the Vietnam war. It's definitely Kings most thoughtful and heartfelt work, and while it was more than a little trite and cringey at times, overall I think it was great and would highly recommend it.
Think Forrest Gump with more thought and less feeling.
The Stand was not mediocre. It didn't adequately express its themes and schizophrenically changed what it was about every 200 pages or so, but it was definitely not something anyone could have written.
You forget when you're on this board just how good a lot of the stuff we read here is. The stuff that is remembered is so far above most of the crap published that it can't even be compared. The Stand doesn't ascend to that level, but it's certainly impressive when compared to the vast majority of shit published.
tl;dr, sure King looks crap if you only read great classics, but he's head and shoulders above the average published author
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