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Let's talk about this.
How many of the entries have you read? How many have you enjoyed? Do you think these are objectively the best twenty entry-level novels?
What I'm saying is, should we try to update the list?
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>>7664916
Read all of them besides Gatsby and PKD. I read them when I was a teen and /lit/ didn't exist. I think entry level now probably has less classics and more contemporary YA. It's a good starting list. I only disliked four of them and it was because of personal taste not because they were objectively bad books.
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>>7664916
Let's not.
Fuck you chart fags. It's the same thread with the same charts every day. The list is perfect for what it does.
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>>7664921
>he hasn't read the great gatsby
not even angry, just extraordinarily surprised. I can understand not reading the blade runner book, but you weren't forced to read fitzgerald in high school?
also, which ones didn't you like?
>>7664926
oh no guys, guess we aren't allowed to rank books by our own subjective tastes
what'll we do
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Why would you update an old list when we have a million different ones already for different tastes

Just look there for new books
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>>7664916
I skipped the started kit and went straight to Gravity's Rainbow.
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>>7664931
Gatsby only gets read in the US. If you're going to be forced to read one of those outside the US, it's probably Steinbeck or Lee. I started reading Gatsby but I dropped it. It's probably the best candidate for not objectively good.

Didn't like:
>To Kill a Mockingbird
>Lord of the Flies
>The Catcher in the Rye
>Siddhartha
Some of them I liked better when I read them again later on, so they were still worth a revisit, but I wouldn't replace my copy of them if I lost them, you know?
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Add:

The Iliad
The Cossacks
The Fifth Head of Cerberus
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Dislike:
-1984 and BNW (just not a fan of dystopians. I completely respect them as works of literature and at least one should be required reading)
-Catcher
Haven't Read
-Clockwork Orange
-American Psycho
-Of Mice and Men
Overall, probably the 3 best books as intros to literature would be Fahrenheit 451, Invisible Man, and Siddhartha.
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>>7664916
I liked Huck Finn. Enjoyed Tom Sawyer as well.
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>>7664916
I've read 6 of those books. Sadly this is probably better than most of /lit/. Kek.
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>>7664931
No one mentions Fitzgerald in other countries from what i've gathered. In Portugal I had to read The Pearl by Steinbeck in Middle School, High School was dedicated to Saramago, Pessoa and Camões.
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>>7665291
>muh english and americuck literature is default
Kill yourself
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>>7664916
Take out
BNW
A Clockwork Orange
To kill a Mockingbird
Fi ove the cuckoo's
1984
F451
Invisible Man
American Psycho
Fear and Loathing
Of Mice and Men
Lord of the Flies
Do Andriods Dream of Electric Sheep
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>>7665334
Wut, Steinbeck, eu não tive nada disso. Por essa altura foi o Frei Luis de Sousa do Garret. Maior seca da minha vida. Acho que até ao 11º a seleção de literatura portuguesa do ensino secundário cá é uma merda
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You can't even read that image properly
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Add:
>A Confederacy Of Dunces
>The Stranger
>Blood Meridian
Remove:
> Mockingbird
> 1984
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>>7665449
Blood meridian shouldn't be in a fucking starter kit
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>>7664951
>Implying all of /lit didn't do this
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>>7665455
It's a masterpiece, but certainly not exceedingly difficult
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>>7664916
US HS senior here. I've only read Mockingbird, Gatsby, Mice and Men, and Lord Of The Flies. I only especially enjoyed the latter two. Outside of required reading I've only touched ASOIAF so I'm working on my /lit/ while prepping for college. Currently reading Roadside Picnic.
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>>7664916
Only read 1984 and have catch 22 in my possession. Not really interested in any of the other books in the chart except for Lolita and the Great Gatsby, because they get praised here a lot.
This chart sounds like US school stuff, and I'm not interested in that. Most of these books are unknown in my country
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>>7665856
Why even post this?
>hurr i dunt like it and muh country
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what about the lit exit tier kit?
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>>7665455
It shouldn't be on any list unless it's a "shitty meme books for pleb fucks" list.
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>>7664954
Even in the US Fitzgerald doesn't get read everywhere these days. Steinbeck and Lee are a lot more common.
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have you never been to /mu/? never attempt to update any chart

>read
clockwork orange
catch 22
slaughterhouse five
great gatsben
of mice and men
do androids dream of electric sheep
siddhartha

>read too long ago to have any opinion
brave new world
1984
catcher in the rye
Fahrenheit 451
picture of dorian gray
lord of the flies

>unread but interested to
invisible man
lolita
huckleberry finn

>unread and prbly never will bc don't give a shit famstar
to kill a mockingbird
one flew over the cuckoo's nest
american psycho
fear and loathing in las vegas
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>>7665859
Because this chart sucks colossal dick?
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>>7664916
what the fuck
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>>7666047
4chan is predominately white american boys get over it
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>>7665986
fuck you. you massive pleb.
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>>7666058
It shows.
Anyway, to me, it seems retarded to have as a starter kit something that most of the board has already been exposed to, instead of something unknown to the average highschool senior. Like Dostoevsky, Borges, Kafka, or Balzac.
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>>7664916
Very few because it's American high school reading list and I'm not American or a high schooler.
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>>7665449
Why take out Mockingbird and 1984? They might not be that great, but they're still important in our culture. Could you imagine if a lit professor had not read either of them?
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>>7666283
mockingbird is literally only relevant to american culture, and is rapidly fading in importance

same with 1984

this chart is literally american high school reading list, which is a super stupid way to induct people into literature as a whole
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>>7666242
The starter kit is for people starting out on the board. Not for people who already browse. The average high school senior would not know half of these.
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>>7666295
I'm from aus and tkam is as highly regarded here. So is 1984, Orwell's ideas are pretty universal. He's not even American.
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>>7666301
australia has no culture of its own so it just imports whatever is popular in the leading superpower. used to be britain, now it's the us

tkam gets read internationally, yes, but it's very irrelevant to the majority of the world
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>>7666307
OK good point but I still don't see why it can't be on the starter kit. The majority of the board is American, so shouldn't we read the most relevant literature for us?
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>>7666295
In what world is 1984 relevant only in the US? I will never understand people who feel so comfortable being arrogant and wrong.
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>>7665460
I just meant that the starter kit isn't needed.
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>>7666297
That's the point, getting to know new things and /lit/core
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>>7665455
Why not? It's good but, at the same time, really easy to understand.
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>>7664916
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>>7666295
What the fuck. 1984 is increasingly important to the world and the culture now.
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>>7665825
Roadside Picnic is very good, anon. There's still hope for you yet.
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read 14 of these throughout my life

I think my favorites are Huck Finn and Invisible Man
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>>7664916
>Of Love the Cuckoo's
for what purpose
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>>7666295
GEORGE ORWELL FAMOUS AMERICAN WRITING ABOUT AMERICAN ISSUES INSPIRED BY AMERICAN ISSUES LIKE NAZI FASCISM GEORGE ORWELL CLASSIC AMERICAN 21ST CENTURY YANKEE MAN GEORGE ORWELL
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>>7664916
This is literally a high school reading list.
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>>7668035
Its almost as though high school reading lists are intended as some kind of literature starter kit.
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>>7665093
> Claims to not like dystopia
> Likes Fahrenheit 451

Do you think burning books and staring at soap operas are good things?
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I'm working my way through this right now. Going to be ignoring the orange supplementary texts. Probably going to be finishing Mythology today. Does anybody have a chart like this for Roman literature?
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>>7666283
Yes, I can conceive of a professor having not read either. What specifically is important about Mockingbird? What does one get out of 1984 that cannot be derived from other dystopian works? I mean, a lot of shitty YA fiction even sums up the gist of 1984.
I agree with others that the starter kit is just high school reading. My attempt was to introduce literary works that can be read by those just coming to the board, i.e. 19-20 year olds
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>>7668427
You think you'd be done with the greeks that quickly?
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>>7668427
>Roman Literature.
>Not going back, and reading the pre-Greek texts, such as the Book of the Dead, the Story of Sinuhe, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Avestas, and the Old Testament.
>Skipping over the Hellenistic period, in spite of the fact that the Romans built on this, as much as they did on the ancients.
>Not lurking long enough to know about Bloom's Western Canon, and that only the Ancient Greeks have been charted out of that canon.
Fucking newfag.
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The only starter kit that matters.
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>>7669170
Where did I say I haven't real the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Old Testament?
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>>7669322
>Hegel
lel
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>>7665093
This must be bait.
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>>7666283
>Important to our culture

Jesus, you sound like the fucking common core.
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>>7666030
Cuckoo's Nest is a good read. Not the greatest piece of lit ever, but certainly good enough to read.
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>>7664916
Have read Catch-22 and Fear & Loathing, love both to death
read Of Mice & Men and To Kill A Mockingbird for school, TKAM was pleasant but little else
have read 1984 multiple times, used to love it, now I'm not so sure
Technically have read Catcher but only once a while ago, didn't leave much of an impact on me
tried a few pages of American Psycho and hated it, think I did the same with Brave New World
read half of Fahrenheit 451 and dropped it, same with Great Gatsby
haven't read the rest, though I did get two or three of them from the library recently
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The starter kit should only include the absolute bare necessities required to post on this board. This is not a board for people to just starting to read since finishing highschool. This is a board for actual readers.

The illiad and odyssey and Aeneid, The bible at least twice including apocrypha (kjv must be one of those readings), Shakespeare, Dantes inferno, Don Quixote, Canterbury tales, Plato, milton, etc should make up the starter kit. Not kiddy teir drivel promoted by redditors and high school students.

This board is so fucking pleb it hurts.
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>>7669811
>The bible
Stopped reading. You can stop trying to fit in now.
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>>7670077
>being this much of le epik redditard !!!!11111!!!111 xDDDDD
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>turning people off reading with this drivel
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>>7664916
For starters, replace American Psycho with Crime and Punishment. Also not very sure about Lolita: great book, but definitely not entry level.
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>>7664954
>Gatsby not 'objectively good'

Nice pleb opinions, ape.
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>>7670129
Do you really consider dostoyevsky entry level
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>>7670214
We had to read c&p in second year high school
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>>7669811
>dantes inferno
>inferno
Kek
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Someone should make a download thing with all the "kits" in it in different eBook formats. Could be helpful, honestly. I was thinking about doing this with some stuff for easiness but I am pretty lazy.

Could make a mediafire account and organize it that way by categories, but I'd need a decent list for a variety of things. Like a starter kit, advanced, "start with the Greeks," etc.
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>>7664916
Remove to Kill a Mocking Bird, 451, of Mice and Men, brave new world and 1984.
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>>7667458
>1984
>not Brave New World
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>>7665825
Where are you going to college/what major?
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>>7670161
>america is objective and the totality of experience
k, i'm sure your dick is really big too
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>>7670214
>Do you really consider dostoyevsky entry level

More so than Lolita for example. American psycho just flat out sucks and C & P has a surprisingly high readability to sophistication ratio. A perfect intro into serious literature.
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>>7669322
>Proust

How much of a pleb am I if I couldn't even get through 100 pages? it just wasn't interesting enough. And those long as fuck sentences having no breaks inbetween made me even more sleepy while reading it. It's like he never gives you time to breathe.
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>>7670791
Currently looking at Stark State in Ohio for 'Digital Video and Media Technologies.' Although both of those are subject to change as I figure out more what I want to do. Literature isn't my go-to hobby medium but I want to enjoy it more nonetheless.
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>>7671285
American Psycho doesn't suck on a technical level. I'm finding it really funny that someone is defending Dostoevsky on technique while criticising BEE for AP.
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Quick question, does reading Infinite Jest as a non-American make sense? I remember a quote or something saying that only Murricans can truly "get" it.
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>>7664916
This should be renamed the "I love books as long as they're not too confusing" starter kit
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>>7664916
in order of preference:

Catcher
Lolita
American Psycho
A Clockwork Orange
Slaugherhouse Five
Picture of Dorian Grey
Of Mice and Men
Lord of The Flies
Farenheit 451
1984
Fear And Loathing

Also read Great Gatsby but I hardly remember it. i liked all of them actually.
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>>7664916
He rapes his sister, Phoebe.
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>>7671729
this
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I've read 7 of them.
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>>7671685
>Catcher at the very top
>Fear And Loathing at the very bottom
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Add 100 years of sloitude and it's done.
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>>7664916
The /lit/ starter kit is composed by pills, tea, coffee, and alcohol.

Plus that feel when you try to not be pretentious but instead be as plain as you can
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>>7668033
laughed my ass off at this post
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>>7671805
fear and loathing was sporadically entertaining, but it didn't have anything really interesting to say.

catcher is my favourite book, i've read it 5 times.
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>>7668408
>cool robot dogs
>no house fires
>manic pixie dream girl qts
sounds like a better world than ours desu senpai
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>>7671482
I heard French people don't like it and Americans just latch onto it because the translation is really sappy and sentimental
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>>7671888

Tell me, what do you think Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was about?
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Can someone post the picture about Dante's Divine Comedy translations and their differences?
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