Let's talk about this.
How many of the entries have you read? How many have you enjoyed? Do you think these are objectively the best twenty entry-level novels?
What I'm saying is, should we try to update the list?
Read all of them besides Gatsby and PKD. I read them when I was a teen and /lit/ didn't exist. I think entry level now probably has less classics and more contemporary YA. It's a good starting list. I only disliked four of them and it was because of personal taste not because they were objectively bad books.
>he hasn't read the great gatsby
not even angry, just extraordinarily surprised. I can understand not reading the blade runner book, but you weren't forced to read fitzgerald in high school?
also, which ones didn't you like?
oh no guys, guess we aren't allowed to rank books by our own subjective tastes
what'll we do
Gatsby only gets read in the US. If you're going to be forced to read one of those outside the US, it's probably Steinbeck or Lee. I started reading Gatsby but I dropped it. It's probably the best candidate for not objectively good.
>To Kill a Mockingbird
>Lord of the Flies
>The Catcher in the Rye
Some of them I liked better when I read them again later on, so they were still worth a revisit, but I wouldn't replace my copy of them if I lost them, you know?
-1984 and BNW (just not a fan of dystopians. I completely respect them as works of literature and at least one should be required reading)
-Of Mice and Men
Overall, probably the 3 best books as intros to literature would be Fahrenheit 451, Invisible Man, and Siddhartha.
No one mentions Fitzgerald in other countries from what i've gathered. In Portugal I had to read The Pearl by Steinbeck in Middle School, High School was dedicated to Saramago, Pessoa and Camões.
A Clockwork Orange
To kill a Mockingbird
Fi ove the cuckoo's
Fear and Loathing
Of Mice and Men
Lord of the Flies
Do Andriods Dream of Electric Sheep
Wut, Steinbeck, eu não tive nada disso. Por essa altura foi o Frei Luis de Sousa do Garret. Maior seca da minha vida. Acho que até ao 11º a seleção de literatura portuguesa do ensino secundário cá é uma merda
>A Confederacy Of Dunces
US HS senior here. I've only read Mockingbird, Gatsby, Mice and Men, and Lord Of The Flies. I only especially enjoyed the latter two. Outside of required reading I've only touched ASOIAF so I'm working on my /lit/ while prepping for college. Currently reading Roadside Picnic.
Only read 1984 and have catch 22 in my possession. Not really interested in any of the other books in the chart except for Lolita and the Great Gatsby, because they get praised here a lot.
This chart sounds like US school stuff, and I'm not interested in that. Most of these books are unknown in my country
have you never been to /mu/? never attempt to update any chart
of mice and men
do androids dream of electric sheep
>read too long ago to have any opinion
brave new world
catcher in the rye
picture of dorian gray
lord of the flies
>unread but interested to
>unread and prbly never will bc don't give a shit famstar
to kill a mockingbird
one flew over the cuckoo's nest
fear and loathing in las vegas
Anyway, to me, it seems retarded to have as a starter kit something that most of the board has already been exposed to, instead of something unknown to the average highschool senior. Like Dostoevsky, Borges, Kafka, or Balzac.
mockingbird is literally only relevant to american culture, and is rapidly fading in importance
same with 1984
this chart is literally american high school reading list, which is a super stupid way to induct people into literature as a whole
australia has no culture of its own so it just imports whatever is popular in the leading superpower. used to be britain, now it's the us
tkam gets read internationally, yes, but it's very irrelevant to the majority of the world
I'm working my way through this right now. Going to be ignoring the orange supplementary texts. Probably going to be finishing Mythology today. Does anybody have a chart like this for Roman literature?
Yes, I can conceive of a professor having not read either. What specifically is important about Mockingbird? What does one get out of 1984 that cannot be derived from other dystopian works? I mean, a lot of shitty YA fiction even sums up the gist of 1984.
I agree with others that the starter kit is just high school reading. My attempt was to introduce literary works that can be read by those just coming to the board, i.e. 19-20 year olds
You think you'd be done with the greeks that quickly?
>Not going back, and reading the pre-Greek texts, such as the Book of the Dead, the Story of Sinuhe, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Avestas, and the Old Testament.
>Skipping over the Hellenistic period, in spite of the fact that the Romans built on this, as much as they did on the ancients.
>Not lurking long enough to know about Bloom's Western Canon, and that only the Ancient Greeks have been charted out of that canon.
Where did I say I haven't real the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Old Testament?
Have read Catch-22 and Fear & Loathing, love both to death
read Of Mice & Men and To Kill A Mockingbird for school, TKAM was pleasant but little else
have read 1984 multiple times, used to love it, now I'm not so sure
Technically have read Catcher but only once a while ago, didn't leave much of an impact on me
tried a few pages of American Psycho and hated it, think I did the same with Brave New World
read half of Fahrenheit 451 and dropped it, same with Great Gatsby
haven't read the rest, though I did get two or three of them from the library recently
The starter kit should only include the absolute bare necessities required to post on this board. This is not a board for people to just starting to read since finishing highschool. This is a board for actual readers.
The illiad and odyssey and Aeneid, The bible at least twice including apocrypha (kjv must be one of those readings), Shakespeare, Dantes inferno, Don Quixote, Canterbury tales, Plato, milton, etc should make up the starter kit. Not kiddy teir drivel promoted by redditors and high school students.
This board is so fucking pleb it hurts.
>being this much of le epik redditard !!!!11111!!!111 xDDDDD
Someone should make a download thing with all the "kits" in it in different eBook formats. Could be helpful, honestly. I was thinking about doing this with some stuff for easiness but I am pretty lazy.
Could make a mediafire account and organize it that way by categories, but I'd need a decent list for a variety of things. Like a starter kit, advanced, "start with the Greeks," etc.
>Do you really consider dostoyevsky entry level
More so than Lolita for example. American psycho just flat out sucks and C & P has a surprisingly high readability to sophistication ratio. A perfect intro into serious literature.
How much of a pleb am I if I couldn't even get through 100 pages? it just wasn't interesting enough. And those long as fuck sentences having no breaks inbetween made me even more sleepy while reading it. It's like he never gives you time to breathe.
Currently looking at Stark State in Ohio for 'Digital Video and Media Technologies.' Although both of those are subject to change as I figure out more what I want to do. Literature isn't my go-to hobby medium but I want to enjoy it more nonetheless.
in order of preference:
A Clockwork Orange
Picture of Dorian Grey
Of Mice and Men
Lord of The Flies
Fear And Loathing
Also read Great Gatsby but I hardly remember it. i liked all of them actually.
>Catcher at the very top
>Fear And Loathing at the very bottom
The /lit/ starter kit is composed by pills, tea, coffee, and alcohol.
Plus that feel when you try to not be pretentious but instead be as plain as you can