read this while in afganistan, during a fight I threw that exact copy towards taliban trying to be sneaky on us...long story short, some got away and I'm sure one of them grabbed it. I'm sure they think its garbage too
OP was forced to read Fahrenheit for his high school class. OP enjoys hating things because it makes him feel edgy and feeling edgy helps him mentally differentiate himself from the other conformist kids at his high school, thus inflating his sense of self-worth.
Bradbury is a faggot. >DUDE WATCHING TELEVISION WILL LITERALLY LEAD TO MASS VIOLENCE AND WAR >DUDE READING WILL MAKE YOU A MORE MORAL PERSON >DUDE NOTHING EVER BAD HAPPENED WHEN READING WAS POPULAR? WHAT THE FUCK IS A HOLOCAUST? >DUDE EVERYONE DIED IN A NUCLEAR WAR BUT IT'S OK CAUSE THEY WERE DUMB AND WE CAN READ PLATO NOW
I'm currently reading it, got to the page 100. Up to now I have mixed feelings about this. Only started because it was on /lit/'s recommendation list. The story seems just so... unbelievable? I don't know if the whole world has become like that or just America. Their plan to put an end on the system seems... delusional. What did you think?
>>7654167 Ehhh you're making broad generalizations that Bradbury didn't necessarily imply. Faber was still a coward, Beatty still an authoritarian nightmare. He didn't pretend that reading was a cure-all but that by reading you're more likely to see true humanity versus the commercial nature of television.
>>7654259 >>7654290 But the average Joe Schmo wasn't fundamentally changed by the existence of television, and a number of high-ranking Nazis were well-read intellectuals. Fucking Heidegger was a Nazi, how much TV do you think he watched?
I'm not going to say that it was a masterpiece or that it held an incredibly deep message, but it was an entertaining read and a good look at what a population can become once they stop questioning what their government tells them, obviously exaggerated to make it into a Bradbury type sci-fi novel.
Still the part that I always remember is when they're driving and they run over something, and Guy's wife finds it so exciting, as if it were a TV show, saying something like "Oh boy I wonder if it was a cat or dog"
>>7654763 That may be true, but just because Fahrenheit 451 isn't as great at covering that topic as other books may be doesn't mean it isn't still a good book worthy of being remembered.
I look at it like this: for a pretty pulpy, short sci-fi written by someone like Bradbury, written in the time it was written, it still manages to get it's point across in a pretty clear, entertaining way. And for that I think it's spot in literary history is deserved.
Bradbury is a fucking moron. Not only did the book's theme turn completely differently than what he had intended (which actually worked out for the better), he criticized minorities for not being able to take criticism, but when he gets criticism gets fucking butthurt like crazy.
I think a lot of people miss the point about it, and that Bradbury got a little lost with it, but it's still a decent read. >>7654446 >It was about TV This is what I mean when I say some people missed the point entirely.
I liked the sci-fi bits (the fire department's dog thing, the descriptions of the flamethrowers, the blood transfusion his wife goes through), and even some of the "dude the future will be shit lmao" stuff was good (billboards being extended cause people started driving too fast to see them normally), but the rest was absolute trash. That shit about the manic pixie dream girl and tasting the rain made me vomit in my mouth a little
>>7654271 It's sci-fi. it doesn't necessarily need to be an accurate portrayal of what America is to become. Some aspects of 451's universe are exaggerated to get Bradbury's ideas across. That being said, I do agree that the plotline and character development did seem slightly forced. Still a good read IMO.
>>7654446 It was about SJWs. There is an afterward by Bradbury himself about how he was pissed some magazine or something wanted him to write about Negroes on Mars or something when Bradbury didn't feel he could write a good coloured character
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