Anyone else think the starter kit could use an update?
Isn't that the highschool reading list we made and underageb&s got annoyed we called highschool so we called starter? I shudder to think what more pandering to the age group would do. Probably HP
>still relevant to /lit/ culture
oh wow my sides were already in orbit before i realised you are deadly serious and you think you're on the road to progress.
What do you guys think should be put in a new starter pack surrounding /lit/ culture more? Any of these?
Catcher in the Rye
100 Years of Solitude
Crying of Lot 49
Notes from Underground
Iliad and Odyssey
Heart of Darkness?
Divine Comedy? (too hard to starter?)
We should put some different books on it. I'm getting tired of threads made by "begginers" asking what these books are about.
Put some easy literature that isn't currently talked about on here so we can get some fresh discussion.
The top 100 is awful.
We're not /mu/. The Starter Kit isn't supposed to turn people into "/lit/-core" drones but introduce them to literature.
It's too American Highschool.
*Add* some works that aren't American Highschool (by American Highschool I don't mean any book on the curriculum, just the stereotypical ones), but still accessible and introductory.
The Saga of the Volsungs
The Iliad & Odyssey - Homer (a bit Highschool, but we need some Classic classics)
About Love & Other Stories - Anton Chekhov
Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, and Phaedo - Plato
The Golden Ass - Apuleius
Typhoon - Joseph Conrad
Melmoth the Wanderer - Maturin
But really a Starter Kit could have a plethora of different books, maybe we should just compile a list of accessible works and tell newcomers to pick the one they like the look of most and start with that.
>We're not /mu/. The Starter Kit isn't supposed to turn people into "/lit/-core" drones but introduce them to literature.
But no one here is going to want it in the starter pack if none of us agrees with it. /lit/core whatever the collective of /lit/ users thinks is good reading. There is no reason to attach some stigma to it.
no, these idiots do want /lit/core. their tastes might not have the resounding consensus and comfort of an echochamber otherwise. we should make them read the Great Books course like the special snowflake college education they claim to want. more of them might kill themselves.
Why would you disagree with the inclusion of a books because it's not /lit/-core?
Do you see if people have mentioned books on /lit/ before you read them?
I'm not arguing against /lit/-core being included, but trying to make an introduction to literature, more of an introduction to a board, is a bit silly.
It would be a pity if the "Starter Kit" became more of a guide to fit in on a website, than an introduction to a range of literature.
So much I have not read.
Also fuck the Great Gatsby.
I was forced to read that in high school and got pretty much turned away from reading thanks to this and To KIll a Mockingbird.
Are they actually worth reading? If so I might give them another try and see if I was just being a shitheaded high schooler.
Won't lie, you got me then. I'm bad at recognizing shitposting.
I'm just looking for stuff to get me back into reading.
They're good for finding new literature, look into the books first though, and read the ones you want.
"Now even bookish pharmacists are afraid to take on the great, imperfect, torrential works, books that blaze paths into the unknown. They choose the perfect exercises of the great masters... They want to watch the great masters spar, but they have no interest in real combat."
Well you've got two Americans and Russians. One Hundred Years would be good, but Ficciones is probably too big for a beginner's list.
Maybe something Greek? Plato's dialogues might be stretch. Calvino would be good, but I'm not familiar with what would be most accessible.
I actually didn't think of nationality at all when making that, I just happened to have a decent spread I guess. Gonna go with Marquez because I like it and it has a good contrast to the other stuff there.
That was just an example. You have to be 18 to post on this site and I was saying we were taught difficult texts in school and taught hhowto understand them. Compared to some of what we learned, Notes is easy and I think most 18 yr. olds if they tried could understand a translation of it
there was a link to it in the archive if it ever comes back up
i like that one better than the one in the wiki
Proust is for beginners? really nigga? are we thinking of the same guy?
I think it's great for the anglosphere and in general, but some variations made by foreigners for their fellows could be made, because even if the wikia charts can be really nice, they also can be total shit.
No really, you're right. The book was too much like genre fiction, but, I guess, some people actually like that shit. The movie made the story real, without effort and useless tropes.