>...Oates demonstrates, more powerfully than ever before,

>>7630064
>that quote
lad...

what is the essential JCO?

>>7630064
My goodness, who is this and where do I start?

>>7630064
>that seaweed grabbin dem titties

>>7630064
Pseudointellectuals in charge of praising hacks, women and minorities: episode 100000

>>7630092
Came here for this.

>>7630092
came thanks to this

>>7630064
I want to see her ravaged in a porno.

>>7630092
wish i came on those tits

>>7630434
And that man is lamenting decline of morality in the neighboring thread!

>>7630064
yeah but she's actually a good writer

>>7630096
>has never actually read JCO just loves to shit on black/woman writers any chance he gets
You're what's wrong with this board

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Some of her tweets though.

>>7632492
I loved her book We Were the Mulvaneys, but she comes across as an insufferable SJW that I would get sick of being around after a few hours.

Heard she's a great writer, would slay pussy.

>>7632463
Honestly no, he isn't. He didn't make a very good argument, and you're probably right, his post is simply a kneejerk reaction to his realization that he's inadequate when compared to a person that he assumed he was superior to, but keeping the progressive filth out of /lit/ for so long is what has preserved its elitism. Thanks to posters like >>7630096 we are extra paranoid about being presented with media that has the backing of academia and the intellectual establishment but lacks the merit of our favorite writers. /lit/ doesn't look like /mu/ or /co/ because we aren't afraid to call out political bias and mediocrity in the media promoted by the most world's popular taste-makers. There is no Ta-nehisi Coates or Junot Díaz or other such trash here.

Instinctive distrust and contrarianism allows us to think independently of the progressive cultural establishment and delve deeper into classic works of literature and philosophy that are ignored and mocked today. If we got rid of all our racist and sexist posters, this forum would look like r/literature or The Atlantic's homepage. No thanks.

>>7630073

Wonderland series
Gothic saga
Blonde

>>7630064
So where does one start with her work? What are her best books /lit/?

>>7630064
Gore Vidal said the three most dispiriting words in the English language were "Joyce Carol Oates."

>all these libcucks praising a woman writer


why is this board so shit? She's a worthless whore

>>7632613
They're being paid to post shit like that on here

>>7632566
There was a point where mu tended more on the elitist side of the spectrum but it was subterfuged by its own irony towards pop into sincere poptimism that really opened pamdora's box. I agree with your sentiment gemerally but feel that ironic affection is as strong here despite any sincere elitism; lit just happens to be more closely engaged with the canon and marginally more discerning in that sense to at least not consume pulitzer flavor of the month as easily.

>>7632492
Well, Oates also thought that the movie Trumbo was great, so she's a fuckin pleb

Oates is trash. If we're going to praise women writers here in order to make ourselves feel better then why don't we start with someone better.

>>7632613
I never liked Oates that much, but the whole thing with the PEN Center and her remarks on the Hebdo thing made me think much less of her. I'm on Rushdie's side in that matter, and I'd say he has a right to remark on that type of thing.

>>7632581
Vidal was awesome. I really should read more of his work.

>>7632949
>reading genre fiction

>>7632951
I meant his essays and articles. None of his novels seem interesting to me.

>>7632788
The worst thing about this poptimism thing is that it's partially a political stance. In their their eyes you're some sort of reactionary of you praise whatever is being sold to you as revolutinary.

>>7632566

Most of the people who claim things are mediocre are mediocre themselves.

Actual greatness doesn't give a shit.

My parents once met JCO when she came to speak at the University both were teaching at.

They both recall her as being constantly drunk, to the degree that she didn't know what state she was in.

>>7632566
ta-nehisi coates has bad opinions but he's a good writer

ditto with diaz

you're just butt-blasted desu

>>7632991

Coates actually believes that Andre 3000 is better than Big Boi.

In the context of Outkast yes, but not in general.

>>7632993
That might be the first decent thought I've ever heard coming from him.

>>7633003

While I do not want to hijack the thread, I would like to remind everyone that

>Big Boi: Didn't fuck up his half of the double album, great solo album, continues to take artistic risks.

>Andre: Fucked up Love Below mostly, is why we have no more Outkast, played Jimi Hendrix in a movie, made a pretty good cartoon.

Game set Big Boi.

>>7633030
the dude just likes andre because he's a massive faggot and thus identifies
there's really nothing more to it, you don't need a scorecard

>>7633043

I mean, I love Andre, I think he's a great rapper, but to say that we should treat him as he was in 2000 or so is ludicrous.

would just like everyone to know that i almost wrote a little prose fragment about jco's haram pussy and posted it here and you're welcome for not doing that

>>7632492
That has managed to infuriate me.

>>7633047
what
no
that's what i'm here for
i wouldn't hang out in a thread about an author i don't even like if it wasn't for jokes banter
spill it

>>7632492
/pol/ was right again

>>7633047
you just want someone to write a poem so you can fap to it, don't you?
>people itt talking about shitwriter's opinions and rap
disgusting

>>7633078
not a poem, it deserves to take the form of an homage to jco's prose style

>>7633069
maybe tomorrow, i didn't save it anywhere and i have work in four hours

>>7633078
rap is good senpai
if you don't like it that's fine but acting like it makes you smarter than other people is retarded

testing to see if s m h is word filtered:
baka

>>7633088
desu senpai baka

>>7630064
>Pulitzer

who even gives a shit anymore?

>>7632492
Nerd logic can't process irony.

>>7630064
>even if our libraries ceased to exist future historians would be able to reconstruct the minutiae and meaning of our life and times from her expansive body of work

What is it with Americans and overrating the importance of American literature?

>>7630073
Where are you going where have you been.

www.eyeneer.com/video/rock/bob-dylan/its-all-over-now-baby-blue

>>7634898
A fiction author should only write in a /pol/itically correct manner, not a politically correct one.

>>7632492
I have trouble parsing this tweet.