After Homer, Virgil, Dante and Shakespeare
who would you say are the most influential to the western canon?
repetitive and predictable
old sicilian maids and house wives
>modern day equivalent
A cross breed of fifty shades of grey and monty python
these threads are shit and I'll tell you why
nobody here has read a quarter of all the major works of the western world. Each of us has read, at best, a modest sum of authors, major and minor, of our first language, and a handful of major authors from other languages. Few of us can pretend to have studied more than one or two of these authors in depth.
This means that we are, most of us, in no position to comment on the sources of influence in the western canon. In order to make such judgments, posters draw largely on the judgments of older writers and critics; they think of some major author praising Shakespeare, or they remember some essay about the supreme importance of Dante.
What ends up in a thread like this is a mass of fourth-hand opinions with only the fuzziest sense of what they mean. When people say Milton is a major figure, what do they have in mind? Are they thinking of Pope writing Miltonic exercises in his youth? Are they thinking of William Collins feeling back (in vain) towards Miltonic sublimity? Are they thinking of Coleridge seeing Milton as a model for a new poetic movement? Are they thinking of Blake and Shelley clothing Milton's Satan in revolutionary garb?
Does this amount to much? Do any of these writers take as much from Milton as they pretend? And does Milton's influence extend beyond the English-speaking countries? I don't think anyone in this thread will have an answer.
I think we just have a vague notion that Milton is important because everyone says he's important, and English departments have dedicated Milton courses, and everyone has heard of the name John Milton. I don't think we are likely to have an intelligent discussion about how Milton has influenced later writers or where that influence has been most felt. Still less do I think we have any reliable way of judging the comparative influence of new writers versus old, english versus non-english; except by repeating critical judgments we've heard elsewhere.
>speak for yourself
have you read a "shitton" of harry potter fanfics? youtube comments? you don't write like someone who reads books t-b-h
This is such an open question. Surely these writers you mentioned impacted some school of thought, but so did many other writers in different fields.
What specifically do you mean? I could say Plato, Aristotle, Machiavelli, etc. impacted 'Western' canon, but really this means nothing because I didn't mention the field they did so
Despite of being Russian, Dostoevskij really anticipated most of European literature of the XX century
But really, you should defenetely add at leas Goethe (literally created romanticism) and a French author (the Chanson de Roland totally influenced all the following poems, like the Orlando Furioso)