>Impressively, the Syllabus Explorer has gathered 1,ooo,ooo+ syllabi published on university websites, then extracted and aggregated the data found in those documents, all for one reason: to determine the mostly frequently-taught books in university classrooms.
Here’s the top 10 list
1) The Elements of Style, by Strunk and White
2) Republic, Plato
3) The Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx
4) Biology, by Neil Campbell
5) Frankenstein, Mary Shelley
6) Ethics, by Aristotle
7) Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes
8) The Prince, by Niccolò Machiavelli,
9) Oedipus, by Sophocles
10) Hamlet, by William Shakespeare
Well, what do you think /lit/?
sign of academics desperation to reach apathetic students
One of the few works for which a cursory glance on Wikipedia is enough. I think I read it in 8 classes.
Is it being taught as satire yet, or is that an unpopular analysis
>Toni Morrison’s “Beloved” ranks first, at No. 43, followed by William Gibson’s “Neuromancer,” Art Spiegelman’s “Maus,” Ms. Morrison’s “The Bluest Eye,” Sandra Cisneros’s “The House on Mango Street,” Anne Moody’s “Coming of Age in Mississippi,” Leslie Marmon Silko’s “Ceremony” and Alice Walker’s “The Color Purple.”
) The Prince, by Niccolò Machiavelli,
>Really? Damn. It's fucking interesting as all hell, but I didn't think anyone but history nuts would care enough to teach it.
pleb of the century right here
I do. I don't get why other people think it is. I was under the impression that /lit/ thought it was babby-tier or something, too. I kind of assumed that would be a reflection of academia.
History makes sense, political is cool to know, I don't get how literature classes would be interested.
>I was under the impression that /lit/ thought it was babby-tier or something, too
lit is filled with morons who listen to three videogame podcasts a day and watch japanese cartoons, you going to let them tell you what's good, lol
>I was under the impression that /lit/ thought it was babby-tier or something, too. I kind of assumed that would be a reflection of academia.
Wait, you honestly think a board on 4chan would accurately represent academic opinions? Kek, most people criticising The Prince here have probably never actually read the book.
half the people on 4chan never even attended university, another quarter go to community college and don't know shit, the last quarter are normies who come through to laugh at memes before fucking their gf, and like 2 percent are serious people who may or may not know something...
/lit/ here, I haven't studied it but I read it because it was around
on my ebook reader. I do think it's nothing much out of context, and there is nothing else that would explain its notoriety because, a bit like with "the art of war", there's nothing in there that doesn't simply make sense to us cynical fucks. Which is why it would clearly have to've been a very different time indeed for it to have been meant as satire.
Beloved is pretty good, but its fucked up that better authors aren't on there. Why the fuck is Neurmancer even there?
I think Faulkner is the most underappreciated author in modern academia. Everyone will sing his praises, but there are almost no courses (at least at my uni and the one I studied abroad at) that included his books. Its just nuts because his prose is just staggering. There are some pages in Absalom Absalom that are better than the whole of "The House on Mango Street."
But it's true that it's a staple of our culture to attack and criticise the current order of things without providing any better alternative. That's why we have Punk Rock and the reason why "Dystopia" is now a genre of its own.
>3) The Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx
Is it possible to remove the Marxist-Socialist bias from academia?
Or does the preponderance of layabout academics and presumptuous intellectuals preclude any possibility of that?
It's clear why intellectuals drift toward socialism: they believe they can design and run society better than society designs and runs itself. It's also clear why academics favor powerful governments, because such governments are their main employer.
Punk Rock and 'Dystopia' genre lit is entertainment, not rebellion, not critique
But we have people suggesting alternatives all the time. Global caliphates, communist reform, tumblr statism, Remove Immigrants, 'just be kind to each other' hippy love etc etc. 'Better' is a word you used, not Comic-Man. Comic-Man asserts that nobody ever suggests alternatives, which is just profoundly stupid.
What will that prove? That artists and their fans have a delusional sense of relevancy? At the very best, it's propaganda calling for rebellion, but creation and consumption of media is not rebellion, it's consumerism.
It's a panel from Grant Morrison's (comics writer who, for some context, was still a wannabe punk pseud at the time) The Invisibles. This old guy is some cartoonishly evil Establishment villain who IIRC is in this scene psychically torturing the writer's tantric punk action hero self-insert.
>Comic-Man asserts that nobody ever suggests alternatives, which is just profoundly stupid.
I think there are a lot more people and especially artists who criticise society than there are people providing alternatives. A good example of this would be condensed into the entire Occupy Wall Street movement. Lots of criticising of the establishment, but no organised alternative.
>creation and consumption of media is not rebellion, it's consumerism.
That's just Marxist rhetoric. Critique is critique whether it comes from mass produced film, books, or music or not.
What does that have to do with The Prince?
I'm a high school dropout who didn't get his GED until 22 and I've read everything on that top 10 except Leviathan, which I plan to do eventually.
Again, your word, not Comic-Man's. There were certainly alternatives among the Occupy Wall Street movement, there just was not a single alternative for the entire movement. They may seem like shitty ideas to you and me but the whole point of rebelling is having a different definition of what 'improve' actually means.
You know, I take it back. Maybe Morrison is actually a genius and Comic-Man's weak statements are supposed to be an ironic underscoring of how mired Comic-Man is in his own paradigm, unable to conceive of 'improvement' in any sense beyond what the social order already accepts as improvement, and as such can only defend his appeal-to-tradition/authority statement by moving the goalposts and adding 'btw the alternative has to be something I also approve of,' which highlights his intractability and the fundamental necessity of violent rebellion to enact change, ultimately supporting the very ideology he sought to criticize, making him the perfect Strawman to knock down.
bravo, Morrison, Bravo
>nobody listens to the dead kennedys anymore
they're so mainstream by now you'll hear them, you know, late in normie nightclubs between AC/DC and Rage against
unless that's what you meant
In my experience academics were def progressives, but not marxists.
The reason for the left bias is the location of the biggest best most-endowed universities in America: Boston, New Haven, San Fran, Trenton, Philadelphia, and LA
you only ever hear about them from people who remember punk vaguely from when more interesting people near them in previous years wore their merch, period
there is literally better, more recent material from jello biafra, and it's not even like anybody except troglodytes really cares even tehn
Don't you understand the concept of "lowest common denominator"? And, more importantly, it's not like there is much choice for this... type of material. Most of the books people have to study are still necessarily those authored by DWM, there's simply so much more variety among these that individual works will not turn up as often.
punk is a brand just like 'rock and roll' is, but there's plenty to be listened to in the current landscape
I always want to recommend the album 'flies in all directions' by weatherbox to /lit/ but it's never apropos. just listen to/read the lyrics of this song, 'bathing in the fuss'
This is relatively patrish. The same website posted a syllabus of Junot Diaz's:
“This class concerns the design and analysis of imaginary (or constructed) worlds for narrative media such as roleplaying games, films, comics, videogames and literary texts. … The class’ primary goal is to help participants create better imaginary worlds – ultimately all our efforts should serve that higher purpose.”
Prerequisites: “You will need to have seen Star Wars (episode four: A New Hope) and read The Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien.”
“A Princess of Mars” by ER Burroughs
“Dracula” by Bram Stoker
“Batman: The Dark Knight Returns” by Frank Miller
“Sunshine” by Robin McKinley
“V for Vendetta” by Alan Moore
“The Hunger Games” by Suzanne Collins
“The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms” by NK Jemisin
“Lilith’s Brood” by Octavia Butler
“Perdido Street Station” by China Miéville
“Snow Crash” by Neal Stephenson (Recommended)
Some things to consider always when taking on a new world: What are its primary features—spatial, cultural, biological, fantastic, cosmological? What is the world’s ethos (the guiding beliefs or ideals that characterize the world)? What are the precise strategies that are used by its creator to convey the world to us and us to the world? How are our characters connected to the world? And how are we the viewer or reader or player connected to the world?
Description: “An advanced workshop on the writing and critiquing of prose.”
“Clara” by Roberto Bolaño
“Hitting Budapest” by NoViolet Bulawayo
“Whites” by Julie Otsuka
“Ghosts” by Edwidge Danticat
“My Good Man” by Eric Gansworth
“Gold Boy, Emerald Girl” by Yiyun Li
“Bounty” by George Saunders
I went to a very diverse and new-age/liberal public high school, and we read The House on Mango Street, Things Fall Apart, and Like Water for Chocolate in 9th grade for our world literature-themed english class.
We even had a unit dedicated to why we were reading Things Fall Apart (because HoD was racist, we were told).
I remember sorta finding TFA somewhat agreeable, but after reading an excerpt taken out of context from HoD, I thought it sounded way cooler, and borrowed my dad's copy and read it in one sitting. The next day I showed my teacher the passage from one of the first damn pages where Marlowe essentially says that it's stupid that white people think of themselves more enlightened than Africans.
She gave me some bullshit response and told me not to bring it up again. I walked away from that class with a deep hatred for her and the retarded curriculum she and the other brain-dead english teachers decided on. Five years later, in college, I was assigned the same three books.
The point of my long ramble is that politically correct academics assign their students these mediocre, middlebrow novels in order to "correct" some sort of perceived bias they must have been subjected to by reading muh dead old white dudes in high school.
You can't really juxtapose _The Wealth of Nations_ to the Manifesto in that way. A better comparison would be _Das Kapital_, and it actually does appear further down the list than Smith's book. The Manifesto, however, is as relevant as either of the other two and is in general a more 'teachable' text. It makes sense that it would appear on more syllabi for reasons of brevity alone. That might sound like academic laziness, but everyone is on the clock.
It actually is surprising that _The Wealth of Nations_ is more taught than _Das Kapital_, however, considering the breadth of the latter's relevance outside of classical political economy. I take that to indicate the opposite of the usual slander about academia being Marxist.
Oooof dont make me play this game. Dear you and 24 hour revenge therapy are my tops. I havent actually listened to forgetters yet. Ive heard good things though. I assume your a jets to brazil fan too?
the marketplace of punk is a nightmare, you'll notice there's really no other way to get a band together
weatherbox are a singer-songwriter project with an ensemble cast of musicians; their music gets much stranger and less poppy the fewer people involved with the recordings
what i'm saying is that brian warren from weatherbox is one of my favorite poets
I like jets to brazil but disproportionately orange rhyming dictionary. check out 'die by your own hand,' 'turn away,' 'o deadly death,' and especially 'ribbonhead' on the forgetters LP
I feel it. Someone once told me jets to brazil vocals sound like stewie from family guy and now i can never get that thought out of my head when i listen to them. Ill check out those forgetters songs, thanks anon.
>The Communist Manifesto I by Plato and The Communist Manifesto II by Marx and Engels are two of the three most widely taught books
And people think conservatives are paranoid for taking Gramsci at his word?
I understand that the primary purpose of Socrates' utopic vision is to communicate an ideal of the rational ordering of the individual soul, but throughout the work he also advocates for his distinctly political vision - asserting its possibility as an actual mode of government, and its goodness as a form of social order.
Morrison is the Harriet Tubman of literature: a worthy author certainly, but wildly overrated by pathetic cucked academics in search of a Numinous Negress.
Cisneros is trash.
Neuromancer's popularity on university syllabi is strange. Babby's first post-New Wave SF? "Literature and Technology"? The relic of someone's early-90s attempt to make literature "relevant" to "youth"?
Conrad didn't hate non-Europeans. Literally the only thing he's "guilty" of is giving accurate descriptions of them. Your teacher was a scrub but unfortunately you were just a kid, so she gets to impose her retarded worldview on you.
Paul Graham put it this way:
>Imagine a kind of latter-day Conrad character who has worked for a time as a mercenary in Africa, for a time as a doctor in Nepal, for a time as the manager of a nightclub in Miami. The specifics don't matter—just someone who has seen a lot. Now imagine comparing what's inside this guy's head with what's inside the head of a well-behaved sixteen year old girl from the suburbs. What does he think that would shock her?
Except replace "Conrad character" with "Conrad" and "sixteen-year-old girl" with "thirty-year-old public school teacher"