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Books about how movements get out of control.
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I'm looking for books that explain the sociology of how movements can get out of control. An example is how the rain of terror came to be. Why does these things happen?
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>>7616626
Vent. We believe we revolt against those ideals we fought against, e.g. slavery, woman rights, liberty, but really we revolt against organized society as a whole. The beheading of an aristocrat does not quench the thirst that subordination and the illogical and baseless hypocrisy that organized life brings forth in every sphere it touches. As long as the individual is made a collective there will be no quiescence of mass violence.
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>>7616626
>the rain of terror

Jfc the French are so dramatic.
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>>7616626
i once wrote a book on how my bowel movements got out of control, are you interested in this?
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>>7616626
mon mec max n'a rien fait de mal
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>it's reigning cats and dogs
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start here

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24518/24518-h/dvi.html
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>>7616626
reflections in the revolution on france is worth a read
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>>7616626
Dune!?
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Schmitt's Concept of the Political then Girard's Violence and the Sacred
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Look into Gustave le Bon first and foremost

Also Georges Sorel
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>>7616979
Thank you.
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>>7616694
Fuck off
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Ortega y Gasset the revolt of the masses
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>>7617129
The Menace of the Herd, or Procrustes at Large - Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn
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>>7616626
I just bought this book, and I haven't read it yet. That being said, I'm interested in similar things OP, and I think it could have answers for both of us.
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>>7617129
I love you
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>>7616979

This, this, this. His Psychologie des Foules is essential for understanding popular mass movements like Italian fascism (foremost), German Nazism, and the various communisms. Nothing else really gets close to le Bon.

Can also second the other recommendations in this thread, but le Bon should be your first stop.
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>he wants a revolution without a revolution
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>>7617704
La révolution dévore ses enfants
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>>7616626
It was all the atheists fault.
The key is to never let fedoras into power.
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>>7617943
I wasn't talking about the terror alone. I want to understand why and how movements go from peaceful to bloody as all hell.
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>>7619090
Or rather; not bloody as hell to bloody as hell.
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>>7616626
The result of putting untrained proles in power 2bh
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sociology of conflict and conflict management literature explains pretty much everything you would want to know. but i think that kenneth boulding is the one that youd like more
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>>7619303
or maybe lewis coser, but i didnt like him
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>>7619303
Thanks, man.
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>>7619090
>>7616626
Though, why assume bloody is equal to out of control?
Also, if you're interested by the crowd thing, Civilization and Its Discontents and Group Psychology and the Analysis of the Ego by Freud could please you
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>>7616626
>rain of terror
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>>7616626
>the rain of terror
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>>7616626
Schama's Citizens and Fukuyama's Political Order and Political Decay were enjoyable.
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>>7621369
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>>7621366
Sorry, dickheads.
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>>7621360
Yes, it's the crowd thing I am interested in. Thank you for the tips.
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>>7622574
You're welcome mate. If you read Freud with Le Bon as someone suggested, there are some nice parallels to draw between these works. The Freud's "Ego ideal" concept may specifically interest you
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>>7616659
Can't believe nobody has anything to remark about something I bothered to spend 3 minutes of my life on.
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>>7616694
The urge to shit-post is a good example of what OP is looking for. Well done, mate.
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>>7622986
Ok, calm down, calm down. I can quite relate to what you said. Though as it is now presented, it seems to me it lacks a lot of premises to come to these points, so I cannot say a lot of thing about these three sentences. What makes you come to these points?
Also, I've got a feeling you have quite a moralistic view about the subject, that doesn't really please me ("illogical" as a bad thing, "hypocrisy"). But once again, since there are only three sentences, it's hard to know if it's just mine feeling or the bottom of your mind.
In a nutshell, say more and I'll say more
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>>7616659

I agree with you - but like most people of our generation I agree with basically any semi-intellectual opinion I hear for the first time in a vain subconscious attempt to convince myself I'm progressing as a person.
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>>7616626
have you ever tried managing an event with more than twenty people involved

you don't need a book to tell you how things get out of hand
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>>7623594
I agree; however, you CAN get a pretty good gist of this situation by reading any history book though.
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