>>7611832 Aspergers >I'm emotional and I can't express it properly!
Stoicism >I'm emotional, but I don't let how I feel necessarily dictate exactly how I act.
It's perfectly fine to feel angry, depressed, happy, neutral, vengeful and smug as a Stoic, as long as you act in accordance with virtue. One reason why Marcus Aurelius wanted his Meditations destroyed after his death is because he was afraid people would read it and realize how whiny, frustrated and un-stoic he was.
>>7611863 I don't have too much free time so I personally like the idea of learning all the key concepts from one book, but it has to contain much more substance than this one. Is there a good book like that?
>>7611873 The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy The Story of Philosophy - Bryan Magee (it's doesn't cover the continentals that well though, not as it's bias against them, he just doesn't spend much time on them)
>>7611817 The essential problem with stoicism is the metaphysical claims. That is, a) The world is reasoned b) A deity created the world to be accordance with reason c) Humans are the only ones capable of reason, therefore is the human telos to be in accordance with reason, and thus the natural world and deities, giving our lives virtue d) Since the world is reasoned, it must have a rational plan for the end, thus everything in the world is fated to reach that end. Although the Stoics made more convincing and thorough arguments than this, this is the very basic outline of the metaphysics. Now, by taking the metaphysical claims as truths, the Stoics were able to make ethical statements such as not being bothered by disease, injury, poverty, solitude, injustice, et al. simply because these things were accordance with the plan of the world. To go against the plan of the world is to go against reason, which is the only true vice in the world just as being reason is the true virtue in the world. Many choose the ethical parts of Stoicism without acknowledging or believing the metaphysical, or even believing in self-admittedly irrational metaphysical religions such as Christianity (not a dog against the religion, but I digress). To believe in the Stoic ethics without their metaphysical backing is ludicrous.
Now, the answer to whether or not Stoicism is out-dated becomes a question of whether or not their metaphysics checks out. That answer is where 20th and 21st century skepticism gets in, and as a result is unanswerable.
>>7611832 Actually, you can tell the illness by the medicine a person is looking for. People attracted to the equanimity that the Stoic practice offers are per definition not very 'stoical' of themselves, otherwise they wouldn't need a method to make them more stoical.
If someone's into stoicism he's probably a person overly ruled by his emotions, otherwise he wouldn't seek to remedy it.
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