I write a lot. I sometimes write 30 pages or more in one sitting. Always pen on paper. And then I burn it. It can be fiction, but usually non fiction. Usually it's myself reflecting on politics, economics, social issues, and the absolute disgust I have for this world. I wish to find peace, and I hope I do in death.
But I mean those words. I loathe life, I am miserable. Getting up in the morning is a chore. And ultimately our species will die out. There is no saving us. We are too blinded by our own greed which slows the progress of technological advancement. We will never conquer the stars. We will perish. Every man, woman and child will turn to ash. Our Sun will die, as will we.
I'm a 20 year old baby almost in my third year of college and this is my first serious existential crisis which as been going on for a few months. Thanks for the advice though. Maybe I'll try to piece something together someday.
I am writing an autobiography (changing the names of all of the people and my own) of my sad, lonely, and filled with domestic abuse childhood up until I'm 17, instead of me going on my life and becoming a NEET and then homeless I become a serial killer instead. I'll pass the book off as fiction
I got super ambitious about reading at the end of last year and got like 20 books for Christmas because that's all I asked for. I haven't finished one.
I'm working on getting back into reading because I used to love it, but by god most of the /lit/-core I've read is dry and draining.
I'm halfway through Steppenwolf and I'm finding it really hard to like Harry. The whole Treatise on the Steppenwolf was fantastic, but I really want Harry to stop being a whiney edgelord and realize his situation is only as grave as he's allowing it to be. I loved Hesse's Siddhartha though
>>7611993 Well first one is about life having no meaning. I'd say after that you can simply lose passion and you'll be back to square one. Now it's about having a rock and at least being certain of something. It's about having something to count on. I then realised arguments against there being any kind of truth are logically pretty strong. Now I'm trying to reconcile this emptiness in a Sisyphean way but I never really found it wholly satisfying. Not that anon btw I was lurking. Anyone care to call me pretentious or add their own personal experiences?
Too many people care only about money. The entire economic system is a joke and is a detriment to humanity. Hardly anyone cares about funding scientific research. That's why NASA get's a minuscule amount of the funding the military gets. We're too concerned with building weapons to protect us from and destroy our enemies even though it's mostly propaganda.
I loved 'slice of life' Young Adult fiction when I was 18-20 years old. Read the perks of being a wallflower on my computer screen because I didn't have an e-reader, thought it was amazing. Also read and loved 'Looking for Alaska'. Other favourites include 'Catcher' and S E Hinton's 'The Outsiders.' I think I was at a reasonable age when I read them though.
>>7612192 Nah, young adult fiction is a term used to pacify the 'think of the children censorship committee,' the term panders to teenagers who feel they gain a sense of maturity by reading these books. Once you finish school you definitely leave the target audience of young adult fiction. Not to say you are no longer a young adult.
I think White Teeth Sucked. I think Cormac McCarthy is a Pleb. I love Pynchon, but it's hard to describe why. I read books based off of recommendations by certified tools (e.g. Harold Bloom, James Wood). I identify with Murakami protagonists on a profoundly depressing level. I couldn't get through The Sound and the Fury.
I respect and appreciate Pynchon, Hemingway, Woolf, and Joyce but I think I'm not yet ready for them. I tried a couple years ago to read them, failed, and decided I had to live and read a few years longer before I can understand the genius of their work. Maybe I'll try again soon.
I have this problem too. I forget books completely. It's shit because I don't even get the advantage of enjoying a book more than once because the second time it feels so vaguely familiar and the plot seems stale.
So I can't remember shit from books and end up forgetting the key things, messages, characters, devices and plot of the books :/
Despite having read quite a few, I hesitate and can barely contribute to discussion to books i read some time back.
>>7612707 White Teeth does suck. McCarthy is a pleb. Pynchon is hard to love, and that love is hard to describe. I used to worship Bloom's giant ass. I stopped around age 20. I've never read Murakami because I can't take any Chinese or Japanese artists seriously. Faulkner has the unfortunate luck of being overrated and underrated at the same time. He is truly great, but you kind of need to read him in a vacuum away from intrusive critics.
>>7612585 (read: I just came over from reddit and read two entry level existentialist texts .. now i'm bored)
nobody who isn't just getting into lit reads those, let me guess, when you say you've 'lost' your will to read you're speaking in reference to highschool when you read shitty YA and scifi books and maybe Infinite Jest
just get the fuck off this board asshole. even if you were a learned scholar, if that's all you've read in the past 3 years you belong on /r9k/
>writing novella >plan a sex scene with tons of tension >decide to try my hand at erotica for some practice >turns out I'm way better at writing erotica than I am at anything else >post my shit on reddit and other forums >some guy pms me and gives me a link to a site, says he'll pay me $100 per submission if it's good >fuck it, I'm shameless >write taboo stories for online mags under a pseudonym (incest/bestiality/cuck/bdsm) >even end up writing the backstory for a set of pics of a fairly well-known pornstar (Lela Starr) >at this point I was writing one story a day, and doing extra guerrilla marketing on my own to get more pageviews (in addition to what I'd get for each story, I'd get a piece of ad revenue for hits) >still working my wageslave job at a department store >start branching out, took a couple contracts to write screenplays for taboo porn production companies >keep all of this a secret from my family and friends, I was too ashamed >one day forget to shut down computer >girlfriend goes on it to print her boarding pass >left my email up >she breaks up with me >I keep on writing more and more, I barely even read >dick is red from jerking off four times daily >stories get shittier and shittier >essentially start writing fucking rape stories disguised as taboo shit >in a rare moment of clarity, I realize what an utter fucking lowlife I am >delete all my fake email accounts, throw away the burn phone I used >abstain from porn and masturbation for 6 fucking months >pretend like none of that ever happened
>>7612919 >Projecting: The Post Perhaps I should have said they were the only books I've finished in 3 years. I picked up some short stories by Kafka, Don Quixote, and some stuff about the ethical implications of what/how we eat (Singer, Maniates, Cohen, Korsmeyer and some others whose names escape me), but I don't have the motivation/attention-span to finish them.
Sisyphus was partially for babbies first existential crisis, but I read Notes because the narrator reminded me a lot of /r9k/ and myself.
When reading a book/kindle while commuting, I secretly wish a cute girl notices me and approaches me to inquire what I'm reading. I knw this is pretentious as fuck and I shouldn't care how "bookish" I look to girls.
>>7613081 >>7613054 >2 days later >Anon: He loved to read; on the train, in the rain or when his heart was in pain. He took his own life after being told by an anonymous poster that his entire life was a lie and that he was doomed to die alone and unloved. May he Rest in Piece. He left behind his loving parents and a ton of shitty, pretentious books.
>>7613054 when they ask me all they ever say is "hm-mm" or "oh" or "ha" or just keep quite. Guess they can't handle things like Hegel. Sometimes when I'm in a good mood I'll say, for instance, "Cartesian Meditations: An Introduction to Phenomenology" and then it starts getting fun.
Real talk though: they don't care or even read even Twilight for that matter, they just wanna talk to you and maybe suck your dick in the parking lot of Wendys if you play your cards right later that night. So just mention it and talk about normal, typical, weather-like-chit-chat, that they both love and want and cant get enough of.
expecting ppl you randomly meet to not only read stuff but to have any knowledge about it, even silly but popular fiction is extremely hopeful to say the veeeeery least
I'm a famous musician, but hate it. I hate my band members, I hate the industry, the media, being recognized anywhere, our dumb fans, any fucking thing. I write my first novel, will publish anonymously, and hope it will become my new career
>tfw hold my own hand in bed as if I'm holding hands with a girl >tfw circle my thumb on the back of the other hand as if it's a girl >tfw rub my foot up and down my calf as if it's a girl >tfw run my fingers up and down and through my chest hair as if it's a girl doing it >tfw whisper to myself in a feminine voice and reply in a deep whisper complaining jokingly to "her" that I'm tired and need to sleep >tfw lie in bed and pretend a qt girl is lying with her face towards mine and smiling at me >tfw fold up my bathrobe and put it between legs as if it's a girl's leg >tfw kiss empty air pretending I'm kissing a girl >tfw lie on my back and hold my arm out and then folded at a ninety degree angle to pretend I'm holding a girl who's lying against me >tfw go through each board on 4chan pretending I'm giving a tour to my girlfriend and giving her a humorous little summary about each one >tfw watching home videos on my laptop of my family and me as a kid and pretending a qt girl is sitting beside me saying "awww" and smiling and asking who the different people are >tfw walking home alone and pretending she's walking beside me and think up lengthy dialogue and occasionally laugh at something she or I said in the imagined dialogue >tfw imagine meeting her family and having them like me >tfw imagine her meeting my family and us sleeping and talking quietly in my room at home >tfw imagine her and my mom preparing coffee after dinner and watching her laugh at something my mom says >tfw imagine making her mom laugh and making her father a little annoyed when she and her mother tell him that he's probably boring me and that I probably want to get to bed after the long journey >tfw developing several lengthy scenarios involving me and my qt crush and replaying them mentally each night while adding minor details and more dialogue and extending them a little further each day
>>7613173 i mean its 4chan so who knows you could be bullshitting but let's assume you're legit
if you're at that level of fame, wouldn't it be extremely difficult to get a book published anonymously/ pseudonymously? it's no secret publishing is a large part who you know/how you market, and i'm assuming you'd want to leverage your existing fame to get through the door for a book deal, but in that case doesn't it become super hard to keep it under wraps?
>>7613191 Sorry, no, won't tell. I'm really looking forward to an anonymous career. If it's revealed that I was here, my publicists, agent, and all the other folks would go crazy ,drive me even crazier
>>7613199 I think you're neglecting to give full consideration to the vacuum the regular hiveminder goes through every now and then when they have the odd moment of quiescence between deciding which hive to fall back to, the /lit/ pseudo-smartguys, who love to pretend to be brainy or the typical internet browser who is so bored and dulled down from external pressures that they watch and read anything that can still incite delight in a body almost bereft of perception, if they had any in the first place. Not to mention this schism itself is already a mentally taxing experience for the average growing man.
>>7613192 I have the connections already. No problem to get a publishing deal, even guaranteed that I stay anonymous. Of course, some people will and must know about it,but get paid to be quiet. I guess it's the same in all art/culture related industries: networking is everything. Anonymity, of course, won't guarantee a success, but I need to know whether I have writing talent, and not just a famous name.
>>7612768 The same happen to me, the other day some guys were talking about the scarlet letter and even though I read the book only a couple of years ago, I couldn't remember anything and I had to read the wikipedia article to refresh my memory.
My day was quite fine, thank you. Apologies for rudeness, but it is truthful nonetheless. I'm just vexed at the amount of people here that spend so much time shitposting and so little reading. It detracts from the quality of the board. What exactly do you do here, if you hardly read? Perhaps you're the guy who criticises books he hasn't read?
>>7613460 One trick I found which helped to quicken my pace with Ulysses was to approach it as if I was reading a short-story collection with recurrent characters and settings, like Dubliners, only triple the size. So each day, I'd sit down, read from the start to the end of a section, think about whatever it meant, and then put the book away for tomorrow.
I found, as with many other things in life, by dividing the larger, daunting whole into several, smaller, achievable chunks, it became a lot less overwhelming, and much more comfy.
This was all aided by Joyce's use of completely different literary styles for each section.
>>7614050 did u ever notice the only good shit in critique threads is like humorous and/or ironic? has anyone ever written anything good that was sincere in like the last 15 years? and if no, why don't fags get the hint and stop trying
>>7612167 NASA was always just a footnote for the American Empire's war against gommnusm. It was never about science or humanity, which is why they had the audacity to plant that gaudy flag into that pristine rock.
I use 4chan as a sort of taste-filter. If someone shits on something, and I see there are people willing to argument back, and they have good points, my interest gets sort of picked; if there's decent discussion about it, more so.
So far this method hasn't really failed me.
>>7613793 Why would you be sad about having more things to enjoy?
>>7611796 I read about people making notes on the margins and realised I have nothing to write on margins. I can explain to myself why I liked this or that book/author/character, but when I write it down it doesn't make much sense and/or sounds too shallow.
Also I read too much about books rather than reading them, if I spent an hour a day which I browse the boards to read books, I would've read much more books. I read slowly and tend to read many books at time, depending on my mood.
I don't see why poetry has to be such a fucking circle jerk.
What's so fucking good about nature.
If this really was a literature board you'd have a fucking section in non-fiction for sociology; it'd cross the entire century and strands with recommended journal reading stripped from university reading courses.
As well as history.
Wow look at how ironic you're going to be.
Literary Confession: Fuck you. It's okay to experience - you want to be a castrated faggot, go to /pol/, you'll feel at home - no such shit as edgy. Inauthentic modes of existence are an ideological superstructure to be digested by its own inadequacy. Maybe in fifty years, maybe never.
>>7613054 I'm a female and hope some cute guy will ask me about what I'm reading. When I see a cute guy with a book I'm too shy to ask what they are reading or if they are reading a book I love I'm to scared to say anything.
wrote story about depressing youth, 60k words and now shelved. >get new job, start writing about tragicomic life. >Fact and fiction are getting muddled: stuff I write about starts happening irl. Stop writing the story...
I am even more pathetic is that I used to do all of this with my cute cousin but you know.. I've lost her to Chronos. Between my age of 12 - 16 I loved her, she was 7 years younger than me. I have never been attracted more to a girl than to her. But eventually then she grew up, society hammered some 'sense' into her. She hit puberty very early.
Nowadays when I see her we talk briefly but I still catch her staring at me with her lovely blue eyes.
So nowadays I too spend my nights like you, longing for the girl that doesn't exist anymore. Last week I even went as far as dressing up a pillow in clothes that remind me of her. The soft cotton and bow ties on her short summer dress.
>>7615272 As I mentioned I do realize that it is pathetic. It is just that I miss her warmth and who she was. Seeing as this is a type of relationship shunned by society I will never be able to experience this again. Sometimes I see things remind me of her and that makes me feel warm and tingly inside. I just wish to go back and be frozen in time with her. Reality is sometimes too harsh for me to handle. When I write poems for her or think about her when im going for a long walk I can escape my daily worries and daydream about that lovely time.
I thought I had developed a unique prose style until someone posted a scan of a page from McElroy's Women and Men in a thread about pomo lit the other day, and I found out I had somehow become influenced by McElroy before ever reading anything he's written. Kind of made me hate every piece of shit I've ever written thus far.
Also I often entertain the idea of referencing /mu/core while writing in prose styles clearly copying /lit/core writers as though I'm going to somehow spearhead a 4chan-centric literary movement, and without fail I always feel like a huge fucking faggot when I realise how shitty it is to write Pynchonian conspiracy stories with Stirnerist egoist themes and an abundance of references to krautrock and shit, as though any normies will care about anything I write, and knowing full well that any other 4chan browsers would think my work to be utter shit because of the gay ass references throughout
>>7612920 >write serious novella trying to capture my zeitgeists >publishers and agents spit it back in my face with barely concealed disgust >write short stories and poetry for publication in respectable periodicals >editors and submissions people don't even reply to me >write schlocky short fiction to hone my skills and submit to some lowkey zines >get continually rejected in favor of terrible garbage that is somehow still better than me >give up on writing >go on my home 4chan board >shitpost >get bored one jobless afternoon >write half-joking gay sex fanfic post about four characters the board likes to meme about >it's incredibly well-received >bunch of gay dudes say i'm some sort of gay sex visionary >write more >people start reposting it offsite >tfw i start writing gay sex fanfiction just to feel wanted >tfw not gay
>>7615847 >People that say they don't like Steinbeck are showing off because they don't like to unwind with a comfy novel or novella about early 1900s Americana. Such projection. Maybe we just find uncomfy? Hey?
I don't actually read really. The times I do, I usually stop about a chapter or two before the ending. It's a fuckin odd habit. I even do this with other forms of media, particularly video games which I rarely play also.
>>7611796 I read everything from trash to patrician books. I have not read all the books recommended by /lit/ I read stepbrother inked by Violet Blaze and was annoyed by wrong use of Japanese. koban series has turned to pure shit but most of the time I give a pity extra star since the writer is an old man and I don't want him to feel bad.
I thought it would be fun to take a break from real lit and read through Neal Stephenson. I liked Snow Crash, Diamond Age, and Anathem a lot. But now I have 100 pages left on Cyrptonomicon and it has been such a boring slog that I regret wasting the last month of my life reading it
At the time I was infatuated with an girl irl who pretended to be huge book nerd. Julia in that book, when she was crazed with learning everything that she could about magic, reminded me of her. Too bad that the girl irl turned out to be a narcissistic SJW.
>>7616613 it depends on what you count as influence. many namedrop him without reading any of his works or claiming him as an influence because they book also has a fugly interdenominational monster. I would still say he is big
>>7611796 Writing has become my only hobby so I've read 10 books in 23 days. Most recently, I tested out John Green with TFIOS and LFA and read The Catcher In The Rye and The Perks Of Being A Wallflower. I found the first two to be a bit predictable, and the latter to be interesting.
In any case, I'll stick to my non-YA fiction. Reading The Green Mile now.
>>7616554 Nothing wrong with Lovecraft. He's everybody's first weird fiction writer but that's for a very good reason, anon. He's pretty easily accessible but I wouldn't quite call it pleb like YA fiction.
Everyone of my friends thinks I'm some really good writer, because sometimes I like building worlds, but I never do anything with them, because they usually would need both sound, and visuals to make sense, and I can't animate for shit, and don't know how to portray it all in a meaningful way A few of them are asking when I'm gonna finish something and I don't know how to tell them.
I love the concept of lovecraftian horror, but hate how lovecraft did it, and haven't found anyone who I think did it well yet (side note, anyone have any writers who also did a sort of Lovecraft horror genre??)
>>7622145 nah man if you dont like a book it doesn't mean anything besides that it just wasn't for you everyone has things that they like, and sometimes it doesn't even follow a pattern its always a hit and a miss, no such thing as being too stupid for it
>>7613054 >re-reading Genealogy of Morals while waiting on an oil change >guy walks by "Oh hey, are you reading Nietzche?" >y-yeah, he's my favorite >"Haha yeah me too, nihilism is so cool. Will to power, am I right?" Men are just too brutish and violent to understand a kind and genuine soul like Nietzsche's.
>>7611796 I teach math at a community college and a student came up to me and asked me if I'd read Gravity's Rainbow. I have, but he's a fedora wearer so I didn't tell him that. He launched into this weird scattershot of half the plot points and tried tying it into math and how the plot was shaped like a parabola (GRAVITY'S RAINBOW LMAO). I just went, "Huh", and left.
I haven't been able to read Pynchon again since then. Why am I confronted by so many autists who need me to be their surrogate friend? Can they recognize something familiar in me? I'm a big guy, work out, and don't talk about nerdy shit, but they always seek me out. Am I just an asshole?
i dont understand vonnegut hate, unless its just a lighthearted contrarian joke of sorts. ive only read cats cradle, slaughterhouse 5 and that short story collection but they were all very **fun** reads that never infuriated me with shitty prose or storytelling. Is it just that the novels are sometimes a bit "lol random" or what?
They don't read nearly as much as the put on. In fact, they often argue about books they haven't read.
Many of those charts are not made by some top tier /lit/ patrician master of his jizz throne... it's merely some pleb amalgamating a list off of amazon/good reads and posting it here.
I mean have you ever visited the /lit/ tinychat? Well, it really gives you a good insight into who hides behind the tittle of anon and act like a dick when people come here for genuine discussions not pertaining to the meme cult culture which resides here.
>>7625740 Pynchon sucks, anon. those are the type of people that sort of literature attracts. Remember this, as it has been an important lesson for you. Even teachers can learn a few things from their students.
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