I felt bad when I realized that I haven't read a book outside of school requirements for about 10 years, so I went to the bookstore. Which one of these should I start my journey with?
throw away lolita. or take it in for a refund. worthless book. also, infinite jest. take both of those back. really no reason to read them whatsoever. neither have any discernible talent.
it's not a meme. neither are very good. hell, even gravity's rainbow is a bit much. OP should have bought the odyssey (to go with his iliad) as well as a copy of moby dick, anna karenina, crime and punishment, and a collection of short stories like borges.
no fun allowed? tolstoy and dostoevsky arent fun now? moby dick might not be incredibly fun but it's leaps and bounds better as a novel than infinite jest or lolita. and what of borges? his short stories are gems and fun and enlightening and awe inspiring and absolutely fun. but i guess you'd rather have OP trudge through the memes for your pleasure.
What's the fourth book?
And what's below Iliad?
There is something reflected in the cover of the jest, but I can't read what it says
>OP's a manchild
I can see why you wanted to cover that up.
Op here, you got it man.
This thread had me in tears. I covered it because it's just a dictionary. I didn't think anyone would care... I got it because I'm going to Taiwan in a couple months, so I'm studying up on Chinese and pictures are cool. :)
I took the picture of everything I bought tonight. I was too lazy to take another one after I remembered the dictionary was in it.
Lol you guys take this really seriously, huh? Pictures make learning vocab more interest, childish or not. SORRY
OP, it looks like it's up to me to give you a serious answer. If you've not read serious literature for 10 years then GR and IJ will alienate you. It's simple as that. I don't care for S-M-R-T you think you are, the fact is that these universes the authors create and the nature of their prose will make you toss them aside in frustration. That's not a bad thing that they're complex, they just have a learning curve.
My advice is to do Lolita first. It's a massive book for what it is; take your time and wring every sentence for all that they're worth. It will take a while to finish (I suggest reading it twice), but only tards read Lo for the plot, or for its prowess in being a 'page-turner' or what have you. Lolita is the perfect /lit/ introduction.
Then do Homer, and don't forget to read Odyssey, although I think Iliad is more rewarding if more challenging. For Pinecone, read V, then Mason & Dixon, then GR. It's just to ease into Pinecones hazy style of storytelling and expansive worlds he creates. IJ is a mixed experience, but save it for later to find out yourself.
Y'know you would be very less stressed if you just let me suck your toes
>tfw is lerarning Chinese
>tfw u cant even spek english
This is a terrible idea for someone who hasn't read a book in 10 years. Those aren't exactly entry level books. You're most likely going to pick one up, get frustrated and never return to reading again. That said, if you absolutely must read one of those I would go with Lolita since it's the easier read.
i agree with
IJ is accessible but lolita is written in pretty plain, simple english and more importantly it has like 1% of the pagecount the IJ has, which is usually the reason i give up on books, if i do, personally (because at some point i just cant be fucked to read another 1000 pages of the same shit)
There's a german lit critic - Marcel Reich Ranicki - who used to say if you can't get your point across in 100 pages it's probably not gonna happen. Obviously this is a guy who reads and appreciates 1k page tomes and he was being polemic, but he has a point. May he rest in peace the ugly jew bastard. One of my favourite critics.
I didn't suggest he start with IJ, but I don't think he fucked up by buying it.
Besides, have you read IJ? It's hardly subtle about it's 'point', in fact it's unique in the stack of books OP has for even having one central 'point', and one that is basically hammered into the reader over and over from page ~50 onward.
Not to say it is a bad book, but certainly not an ambiguous one.
>but I don't think he fucked up by buying it.
yeah me neither, didnt mean to imply that
ive read IJ. i'm not even sure why i brought that anecdote up anymore i havent slept in like 40 hrs lol. i just like it.
all i really meant to say was prolly don't start with IJ b/c 2 many pages
yeah I think Iliad will be tough to get into lit as a whole but once you're sorta accustomed to reading it really is a masterpiece and I don't disagree with the memes, The Greeks serve a good foundation for literature that follows
but you wanna suck someone into the medium with something a little cheap and saccharine like Infinite Jest.
ugh i read the iliad these year, what a slog...reading that shit is like watching american football...six seconds of action and then ten minutes setting up the next play...
asklippius son of dickerous and dongria who hail from the plains of penia and whose great grandfather cocknor who was married to slutnia and who had a half cousin named fagamon that married bitchius hoew picked up his spear but right before he threw it his head got cut off...meanwhile another faglord by the name of fuckthisshitius son of blahblahblahius and boringia blah blah blha ..... shit i fell asleep again.
p sure because all the characters are either real people or previously established charatcers in the mythological canon
it would have meant more at the time
to us its kind of like someone from 2250 trying to watch family guy
Yeah, those two that are some of the most well-received books in countless literary circles are just 'bad.'
Why even bother posting if you're going to give shitty advice? The rest of the literary world's consensus on those books trumps the fact that you didn't like them. You're a nobody and consequently, nobody cares about your opinion. Try writing a worthwhile explanation of your currently empty opinion if you want anyone to give the smallest amount of fucks. Otherwise, just stop posting and embarrassing yourself.
Here's some irony: several anons criticizing OP for getting a visual dictionary (instead of just words), when in fact they are responding to something in an image instead of discussing books.
It's somewhat comforting to know that I'm not the only one who was swayed by /lit/ memes. I wanted to start reading better shit so I went full on Start with the Greeks mode and bought Edith Hamilton's Mythology, Barry Strauss' The Trojan War, and the Iliad. I'd read the Iliad before but it was a different translation.
Taiwan often uses traditional Chinese, the one you've got is in simplified. While the pronunciations remain the same (except for when the Taiwanese are speaking in Hokkien), many of the words will look a little different.