>>7594535 I forgot about the name of a book. I need help to remember it.
There was a missile, and a guy who can stop time. He can stop the missile from crashing and killing him by keeping time freezed, but doing so everyone else is freezed so he is alone on earth until his death.
What is the difference, in /lit/ terms, between William Gass and William Gaddis? Both of their works are mentioned here on occasion, but one is supposed to be in the new meme trilogy, or something? I can't keep them straight.
>>7594646 shit nigga this sounds so much like something like Borges, it's just a quick guess. I don't actually remember shit, but I think the story goes along the way of a man about to get shot and before getting shot he asks God or some shit like that for mercy and God gives him a full life by making the seconds in which the bullet leaves the gun until it hits him into an eternity or a long ass time. might be wrong or crazy so don't trust me desu.
I don't understand fair use, but I want to write a novella about Jeff Mangum traveling backwards in time, through his dreams, to rescue Anne Frank. How likely is it that, given the remote eventuality in which I manage to complete such a manuscript, I should be sued after any publication for defamation or copyright infringement?
>>7594658 Not that guy, but you're usually pretty safe with Penguin, anon. It's only their edition of Gravity's Rainbow and some editions with unfavourable translations you should ignore, but for the most part they're reliable and affordable. Go for it.
I just bought the last days of Socrates. I haven't read any Plato before, this will essentially be my intro into philosophy? Do I need to read anything else before this? After I read this can I read the Republic?
I'm writing a short gay erotica piece that correlates with a much larger story. Problem is, I can't write erotica since it's mostly metaphors and I have never had any homosexual encounters to push me farther along.
Also I hope I am not coming off as too big of a pervert, seriously trying to look at this from an authors perspective.
you can't write erotica because it wouldn't fit into the context of the larger book ? or you can't write it because you've never had a homosexual encounter?
either way, read homosexual erotica or erotica from a straight female perspective. also, just pretend you're gay - think about sex and just replace the vagina with a penis and a woman's body with a man's body. watch gay porn. stop having hangups.
>>7596797 It's more like an complex excerpt to occupy people that is connected but not apart of a larger project I've been working on and off on. The main character is bisexual and he figured out his friend is not only gay but has a sudden affinity for him that eventually leads to a one night stand.
And I will. It's not necessarily the fact that I don't know what to write either, however I tend to miss typing the finer details that made my earlier works not erotic enough and overall mediocre.
Forewarning: I'm a 'pleb' I'm trying to read 'The Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays' but literally 90% of it is going right over my head. I mean I could sit and figure it out sentence by sentence but it would take me 500 hours to finish the damn thing.
>>7596790 nope man recently i've made inroads towards accepting personal failure like not even in the distant past, but truly doing something and accepting if it is shit
i guess i would encourage you to do the same. read it, let it wash over you. let yourself understand the failure, don't ignore it. but also feel the distance between you and it (which is your discomfort) and know that this distance is yours also.
Dude read the odyssee first, the illiad is heavy and indigest mostly. I'm pretty sure homer was paid to put some people name/descendants, you will see 1/3 part of the book like this: is name was ... commander of the army of... who was born in the year... married to... inventor of... (imagine 3 page like this) and son of... who was the precedent heroes of... married to .. (3 page again) who was the son of... (yeah here we go again) i'm exagerating but mostly its a really big part of the book every character or side character get is own fucking biography and genealogy three, for mostly no purpose.
For those who have read 'John Billy' from DFW's Girl with Curious Hair, what the fuck is going on at the end. Why does an otherwise grounded/'realistic' story suddenly have the characters floating and buzzards pushing up against the window and all the other crazy shit. It feels like forced surrealism. Pls respond, I've just finished it and I'm upset.
How do I start with pic related? I've read Job and liked it, but don't want to read it cover to cover in fear of getting bored by the more anecdotical/historical parts. Some anon a few years ago posted reviews of a few books (parts of the Bible) in a thread I happened to be in, but I forgot which ones.
Need suggestions for books that deal with a character who finds it increasingly hard to tolerate being among people. It is exasperating, mentally exhausting, anxiety inducing, panic causing and nerve-wracking amid all the conscious awkwardness.
The protagonist increasingly dwells on loathing himself for his pathetic and despicably mediocre nature and his failure to be normal and have a well adjusted social life. People (specially women) don't acknowledge his existence apart from momentarily pausing to judge or remark on his creepy, confidence-lacking. pathetic nature.
The protagonist constantly wishes he die in a horrific accident because that way he won't feel the guilt of killing himself while a part of his family is still alive to mourn. He fantasizes of dying or being killed in several ways several times every day because that will help him end the wretched joke of his despicable existence which can be expressed as a sequence of failures at being a desirable human being. The protagonist feels crushing sadness periodically which goes unnoticed by anyone and everyone around him including his family. He feels at an utter loss of how to deal with these periodic surges of devastating sadness and melancholy that further feed his desire to die a brutal death because maybe the brutality of the death will absolve him of his wretchedness, failures and shortcomings.
The protagonist constantly attempts to be indifferent and nonchalant about the lives of those around him but periodically succumbs to intense bouts of jealousy and ressentiment during which he internally imagines horrible things happening to all those successful, beautiful and socially well adjusted peers. Then he eventually calms down and after reflection realizes that those horrible things should occur to him instead of the beautiful people around him.
The protagonist simply does not kill himself out of the fear of botching it up and the anguish that it might cause to one or two close relatives. The protagonist isn't impoverished or doesn't face any financial hardship but still is trapped in a spiral of loneliness, guilt, pessimism, anguish, sadness, loathing and disgust at the self. The protagonist detests being seen or witnessed/seen/heard by any human apart from his immediate family and constantly attempts to avoids people despite being drawn to their happy lives. At this point he just wants to conveniently end the ugliness and finds respite in a bit of literature that keeps him company and draws his mind away from the torment and anguish. However, he realizes that it isn't enough and eventually the growing misery will become too much for him to handle at which point he will quit.
>>7597253 norman di giovanni is often considered the best and if you google him you can see that he worked closely with borges and such. all his stuff is available in older editions (i think) but borges' young succubus wife booted him out of the publishing rights when she inherited the estate. at least some of his stuff is very easy to find online and you can compare it with the modern translator to see if you care all that much about him. personally i didn't see enough of a difference to bother about it.
>>7596692 read all of plato and the major works of aristotle then http://www.earlymoderntexts.com/ in order
then 19th/20th cent are easy enough, just use wikipedia
Anyone know the name of a 90's YA book about a young boy whose lost his parents and is raised in the wild west by Natives. I think he carries a hatchet although it has no bearing to the YA novels "Hatchet"
>>7600212 I dont have the time to read as much as I do and im like retarded slow. Im not looking to speed read, just improve my rate of reading. I know about not visualizing the words internally and using a line as a guide but it doesnt seem to help.
They're great books. High quality material and pretty to look at. In regards to translations, the majority of translated works I've got from Everyman are Russian authors. They use Maude for Tolstoy, which is arguably the best translation, and P&V for Gogol, which is actually one of the few instances I've encountered where P&V works.
I'm not entirely sure what translator they used for Borges, but it definitely works very well.
So yeah, Everyman's is a very solid choice. If they're on sale, I'd definitely say go for it.
what SPANISH translations (+ critical work, if possible) of Plato, Sophocles, and the rest of the greek gang should I look for? basically want to get everything in this list but I can only find Hamilton's locally, and Amazon is not an option
>>7598624 Outstanding stories for the young. I'd say if you're posting here you're probably past the window where they will affect you, but they're good stories, and you should probably experience them.
>>7599504 start at the beginning and read. It will take you a year at a moderate pace. Just swallow it. When you're done reading it, continue reading it occasionally. Revisit books. There is no tl;dr. Every book of the bible has been extensively referenced in literature and thought and you should be actively familiar with it. It's the most important book in our language.
Someone PLEAse explain metaphysics to me. Imagine you are explaining it to a toddler. I literally can't pluck a simple explanation from any definition i read. Maybe (probably) I am stupid. ANyway. Please help
>>7602755 >how is book availability on this and how easy is it to pirate books? You can find pretty much everything easily. Sometimes you have to convert stuff which takes less than 5 seconds per book.
>>7602821 That's a bit more difficult but most books come in better formats like epub, mobi, azwf. While calibre can convert pdf, it's recommended to first use k2pdfopt, then put the file into calibre for better results.
>>7602755 Got a paperwhite for Christmas and I'm really loving it, and I'm one of those 'I just love the feel of a real book yknow?' type cunts. If you're a moralfag then the book selection is decent, you'll probably have trouble finding some of the more obscure stuff though. Otherwise all you have to do is get your ebooks by whatever method you like online, download calibre and convert your collection to Mobi, as that's what kindle reads best. Calibre is pretty much iTunes but for ebooks and your kindle
>>7600609 It is possible, you need to eliminate the pathological need for love. Chicks strive for the love of the dude itself which is pointless because you can never truly possess emotion of someone. The only thing worth doing is to appreciate her beauty and seek enlightenment in your own body
how do I thicken the plot in my novel at the moment I'm writing a really shitty romance novel at the moment. And I'm finding it tough to add differing levels of plot, because for the duration of the book, the two lovers are seperated and are restricted to communicating through letters. To be honest, I'm not that far into the book and am already considering scrapping it.
>>7594535 How the fuck do I find a "voice" to write with?
Great writers like Delilo and McCarthy and Faulkner always have such distinct, interesting voices, even if they write in the third person but I can't seem to find one no matter which perspective I'm writing from. It either sounds forced if I TRY to have a voice and if I don't try and just let myself write without thinking too much it's either boring prose or just generic high school sounding shit. This is my biggest barrier because I always like the plots I come up with but I always end up raping them when I try to actually hammer them out because my prose is so shitty and never gets any better
>>7604819 I don't know shit about writing novels but if I was tasked with thickening the plot in a romance in which the couple is separated I would introduce temptations that drive them apart, so that the physical distance is mirrored by an emotional distance until the ending at which they unite both physically (unite reaaally close with each other) and emotionally.
Temptations could take the form of other characters and/or mundane things like "As a favor to Jane I never ate ice cream but now that I'm far away in Shanghai I can eat all the ice cream I want!" Ice cream could also be alcoholism that the lonely man struggles with in a far away land where he is removed from friends, family and loved ones and surrounded by Chinese people or whatever
I also think it would be important to introduce subplots that don't have anything to do with the romance, at least not on their surface. E.g. what are the backstabbing chinks doing and how is the character troubled by the triads and all the opium addicts running about? That could all feed into the romance when he meets another woman during that shenanigans but I don't think it has to Also you could spend time going into why they are separated in the first place, you wouldn't have to reveal that at the beginning but sort of unveil what happening as you go along and maybe have the characters referring to some stuff in their letters that the reader doesn't yet know about
>but why do they stay together? Because they are in love and true love conquers everything :^) -the end
All in all I would look how other romances thicken their plot so you can steal from those and to try to come up with some ideas that you can implement in different ways, at least try to turn your novel into something that you don't think is garbage, it feels good to finish something even if you have to revise it a lot You'll make it
>>7604862 thanks a lot lad, I really love the idea of temptation, and I think I found the perfect way to bring it into the overall plot. It's amazing how sometimes hearing something obvious from another person makes it seem all the more genius. have a good day
>>7604936 typically it is a distinction in organisation. iirc NABRE is the only bible cleared for use in the United States, whereas NRSV I believe is more likely to be used by other denominations (if they're not using KJV). However, if you're not living in the US, I would have absolutely no idea at all for why someone would promote one heavily over the other.
Does anyone else feel like a /lit/ general could be a good idea? Sort of similar to a 'questions that don't deserve their own thread' thread - it'd just be a place for us to chat, ask some basic questions about what we're currently reading, etc.
>>7605216 An Anthology of Erotic Prose by Derek Parker (highly recommended) The Amorous Exploits of a Young Rake-Hell by Guillaume Apollinaire (not so highly recommended) The Sexual Life of Catherine M.
>>7598539 the Iliad would have been read out loud to the early Greeks at various times, and the names are there to allow individual Greeks to see their ancestors and make the connection of their family line, or so I hear.
>>7596692 My approach was to read what interested me - I started off intending to read a selection of major works, and I read almost all of Plato and then I started skipping around. Now I wish I had skipped around to start with, reading all that Plato was most likely a waste of time, I've hardly revisited it and I don't think about it much anymore. Unless you're specifically interested in History of Philosophy then sticking to "major works" is if anything a handicap.
Any books on how to overcome social anxiety? No, just getting outside doesn't work. Today, I was paired with two cute girls in a physics class who had no clue about excel which the whole lab required... After we finished and got a perfect grade, one of them told me I should join their group for every lab. I don't think I said anything and regretted it immediately after. I'm way too old to still have this problem.
>>7607079 I've always been afraid of this but I've never been diagnosed.
They've always put me on SSRI's for depression and social anxiety. They once gave me a script of xanax but I told the doctor I didn't want it next appointment because I noticed negative effects on my cognition like I would forget I had clothes in the dryer and stupid shit like that. I'm on no medication now but I don't frequently go to routine doctor visits.
They couldn't possibly want to just use me for a good grade though, right? ;(
>>7607114 >>7607041 I'm a doctor. Trust me. I'll write you up a recipie. It won't be nice, that I can tell you. It won't be nice but it'll work. Do you think you're ready for it? It's going to take a whole lot of sweaty palms.
Chapter one: The basics Read How to make friends and influence people. Yes, that book every single /lit/erati will tell you is autist's first book. FEEL every single line the author speaks: this book is about getting to others' emotions. Second, reread it, again highlighting key parts.
Chapter two: Sparring. Take each rule, one by one, and start putting them into practice. For example, with everyone you meet, you make a deliberate, conscious effort to smile. Don't half-ass it, do a real big smile, and watch your speaker mimic your big ass smile.
Chapter three: Investigations. Next, read up on Emotional Intelligence. Yes, the other book these autists will dismiss as pseudobabble. FEEL the book, and the impact these concepts have on your test subjects. Now make a syntopical chart with the two books, try to connect concepts from both books as much as you can.
Chapter four: Introspection and assimilation. Meditate on these concepts. Actually do, don't do an uncompromised half lotus and give up because you "can't feel anything". You don't need to feel anything special, just feel exactly what is happening. If you can, do a few sessions of psychological therapy, focusing on these subjects.
Final chapter: Execution. There is no reading, no thinking here. Just taking every single lesson this therapy has given you and applying it, failing vastly, infinite times, and eventually, conquering.
>>7607279 I don't trust that you're a doctor but I'll definitely check out those books and "live them" if they don't come off as complete pseudoscience. If they aren't, living them is of course the most difficult part.
>>7607276 Adderall is a good idea desu. When I took 45mg I became super sociable and I had way more tolerance for people's shit. I could not stop talking to people about whatever they wanted to talk about, some how I was also enjoying it.
>>7607521 Typically their most acclaimed books are acclaimed for a reason. I usually start with those. I've had moments where I thought I found an author who could do no wrong only to start his early works and not be able to finish.
>>7607515 I dose my amphetamine sulfate quite liberally, and nothing bad ever happened. Trust me, your nose will clog up before you hurt yourself. The best thing about speed is that nobody can tell that you're on drugs
>>7594535 what's best Nietzsche's book, I want to know about his philosophy and teaching, I am not interested in if he wrote any fiction. probably going to only 1 book of him (unless it's amazing) so which one should I pick?
IIRC there's a big "info chart" but which lists a single sentence which was cut off early in an earlier edition. That sentence is complete in ebook editions of Penguin so I assume newer print editions have it complete, too.
>>7599528 Against the Grain (A Rebours) - Huysmans. Deals with the intolerance and hate of people, and isolation, as well as the suffering therein, but without the self-pity and suicidal tendencies you're after.
This is my first time in /lit/, and i'm not a big book reader, but I want to get acquainted with some philosphy knowledge so that I don't make a fool of myself.
What books, from any era, do I have to read to be able to not be a complete pleb? I'm speaking about something like essential reads from big philosophers. I read the sticky but it just gave a massive amount of books about different topics that I'm not really sure about.
>>7610698 Yes it's fucking great. There are 2 baller used bookstores in my town and they're both comfy as fuck, I've gotten great deals there and the staff are /lit/ and legitimately cool to talk to. >>7607247 ebay >>7606782 Read a set amount of pages or minutes per day. Read at the same time every day. Read in the same spot every day. >>7606716 p much every philosopher ever >>7606333 Writers who are actually serious about being published know not to put their stuff on the internet, since that disqualifies it from being published by pretty much anyone that matters. Yes they check archived web pages and shit.
So critique threads are mostly filled with shit, people who have been writing for less than 6 months, people who aren't serious about writing or getting published, or who are ignorant about how getting published works.
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