>>7586136 I dunno about hume, he spent most of his life trying to reexplain and apologize for treatise of human nature even though it was a great work. There's even a part at the end of book 1 where he speaks frankly about his fears that people would misconstrue his work and the fact that his own philosophy depresses him amidst his inability to stop developing his philosophy. It's like the otter who hates watermelon and can't stop eating it.
Dostoyevsky straight up had seizures left and right, went to a Russian gulag for a good portion of his life where he was walked to the executioners block, only to be pardoned at the last minute. Then, as the God he always pondered came down and pooped on his chest, he started having worse seizures and developed a massive gambling problem.
Charles Darwin had wicked Crohn's disease to the point where he basically shit himself to death, ultimately proving his life's work and theories. But not after half his kids died from shitting themselves to death as well, before his very eyes.
Schopenhauer's life started rough but ended quite nicely.
His father died when he was young, his family's business went bankrupt at one point, while in his middle age he was rejected by a number of teenaged women he fell in love with, and he had a strained relationship with his mother.
When he was about 45 he moved from Danzig to Frankfurt and spent the next three decades living alone with his dogs, reading and writing all the time, and taking long walks every day. In other words, most of /lit/'s paradise
>>7587753 Not Tolstoy, he was in a very unhappy marriage for the majority of his life. When he finally decided to leave and adventure/tour the world he died at the train station before even getting out of the town
>>7587880 >His father died when he was young, his family's business went bankrupt at one point, while in his middle age he was rejected by a number of teenaged women he fell in love with, and he had a strained relationship with his mother. this is the story of my life, can I still become a great writer then?
>>7587287 Well you don't really "shit" yourself to death, it's the inflammation and ulcers in your colon that causes your body to not absorb any nutrients. Yes, you have diarrhea and severe pain pretty much constantly, but it's not like you're just taking regular shits.
I have crohn's diease and lost 40lbs with it (I wasn't overweight). I've been fine for 5 years now though, thanks to modern medicine.
> When he was nine years old, Vollmann's six-year-old sister drowned in a pond while under his supervision, and he felt responsible for her death. According to him, this loss has influenced much of his work.
Must be pretty horrible to have that hanging over you your entire life.
Cioran moved from backwater Romania to Paris, one of the alpha-cities on Earth. Eventually (though he himself would probably have dismissed it, it still had to feel somewhat nice) his nihilist work (the one thing for which he had to have had some deep interest, passion, whatever you want to call it, or else he wouldn't have written it in the first place) got recognized there, and consequently throughout the west. He normally declined prizes, but he did accept one big one because even he, being actually a fairly well-adjusted person, realized that not taking the big prize that they really really really want to give you (like Perelman and the fields medal) is of itself a dick move.
Cioran lived a quiet, comfy life in Paris for the rest of his life after WWII, not interfered with by a government or a corporation. He got to do exactly what he felt like doing with his life (write nihilism), and actually got /respect and admiration for doing so/, easy to get from the gloomy mid-century French. He even had an unmarried gf of many years, produced no children that I'm aware of, and had a few friends with whom he kept in touch, until he died in his ripe old 80s --- having kept the suicide option in his back pocket, ready to pull it out at any time should things have gotten too much.
In short, Cioran practiced what he preached, lived a quiet normie lifestyle that satisfied basic human social needs without compromising himself significantly apart from his expat status, and lived into old age. /r9k/ wishes they could have lived a life like that - I sure do.
Best: Hemingway >full of adventure, partying, manly escapades. Gets to live in interesting locales, hobnob with elites, bang attractive women, and generally live it up. Reach fame and glory and become an American hero >fight in wars and other shit and come out relatively unscathed, be based socialist >spend final years pimping it out in Cuba Sure his last years were painful and debilitating from all the drinking but still had a good run
>live with parents well into 40s >work the same shitty job at insurance office, repetitive and dull >Crippling anxiety and autism >possible perma-virgin/closet case >die of tuberculosis at a relatively young age, with his work unknown and unappreciated
It's cute that you have to infer that your me-strawman, who in your thing doesn't do anything else anyway (and corresponds to male shut-ins generally), couldn't possibly be spending a lot of free time reading.
>>7589163 probably, but you'd better move to a different city and buy a few poodles. maybe identify a much more famous academic rival who irks the shit out of you and push a woman down the stairs or something
First part of his life he was an aristocrat, spent his family's money, slayed qts, gambled, fought in wars, etc. Second part of his life he spent in artistic enrapture, writing masterpieces, taking breaks to stroll around his estate. third part in a spiritual struggle that ended with him deeply believing he found the truth. he fathered a gaggle of children, could be moved to tears by flowers, peasants, hearing music, reading.
>>7591437 He wet through a bout of severe depression in his old age. So much so that he feared he would kill himself if he brought rope with him into the woods. He probably had incredible highs and devastating lows.
My professor maintains his land and estate were of extreme personal importance and ultimately the cause of his death. A dispute with his wife regarding who received the rights to his work (his family or Russia) caused him to flee his home permanently late in life. He died shortly after, possibly because he was forced to part with the place he knew so well, where he grew up and grew old.
wittgenstein had four brothers, three of them killed themselves, and at one point he hated his life so intensely that he appealed to the soviet union to work in a shitty factory in belarus or whatever but they told him he'd still have to teach so he declined
Would you class Proust's life as good or bad? He was a much-beloved socialite in Paris in his 20s, fucking men and women all over the shop. Then in his later years, he was overcome with such terrible alleriges, that he shut himself up in his bedroom for years to escape atmospheric pollen. He allegedly wrote most of À la Recherche du Temps Perdu in bed.
>>7594203 can't really call a life good when you masturbate to whores stabbing rats to death with needles and getting fucked up the ass by a big guy who is insulting a picture of your mother to be quite honest famille
>>7590755 Calling something an Alpha City isn't an r9k thing. That's an actual category of city with global importance as opposed to an Alpha-plus city with unmatched global importance in all industries or a beta city with mostly continental importance.
>lived much of his life with crippling stomach pain and vomiting, had to lay in bed for days >had to knock himself out to sleep >many of his relatives were female and annoying as fuck >got rejected by his love >idol and friend turned into a shitty anti-semitic and nationalist >lonely as fuck >went insane
>>7586104 That there hasn't been mention of Marquis de Sade is surprising. The poor man spent three or four DECADES in prison for having a few fetishes that would be considered normal by today's standards. The woman who wrote fifty shades did so with despicable vulgarity while Sade depicted gruesome acts in such a way that they still held an esthetic quality, but she is applauded and praised while he was imprisoned. I believe this man had the worst life of any writer.
>>7594966 I'd argue American nationalism is respectable. America fought for her independence and fought against the oppression of the British government. Many other nations don't have that rich history and don't have what it stands for (the Declaration of Independence).
>>7595000 So did Tesla and Da Vinci apparently, I guess they were too busy with their work and trying to ensure a great legacy than to care about bitches which is kind of a trivial thing when you think about.
Despite not passing on their genes, they attained immortality through their work
>>7595004 >Diogenes chose to live that lifestyle, man. He fucking loved it. Yeah, I know. Despite him ''loving it'' no one loves surviving on handouts and sleeping in the cold. I guess it worked for him and he had to do it because well, he was Diogenes. No doubt he still had a hard life, he could have had it all but chose not to for the sake of his philosophy...which is hard in itself.
>>7595015 I meant it as a joke, i feel like Kant had a beautiful life from his perspective. According to his view on morality sex was a way of using someones body for pleasure, thus immoral. And, from his perspective he found love in a woman, and he expressed that love through many years of correspondance. Therefor, i feel like Kant is one of the most romantic philosophers to date without ever sleeping with someone.
>>7587753 >Kafka No. Kafka was just a massive bitch. I love his writing, don't get me wrong. But Kafka had a great life. He fucked bitches left and right, then shot them the fuck down. Brod and Kafka caroused trough Prague, fucking waitresses and wasting their paychecks. Kafka had a decent job, went on vacation and had literary success. He published most of his short stories and his novella 'das Urteil' (The judgement) as well as /lit/'s favourite, the metamorphosis while he was still alive. He was well known in literary circles and appreciated by Bohemian readers. Of course this is in no way comparable to his posthumous fame but certainly better than most. Kafka had major depression for no reason and some daddy issue, also completely unjustified. His life was great by objective standards. He died an untimely death though.
>>7590793 Hemingway suffered from depression his entire life and knew there was a strong family history of suicide. He was an underage ambulance boy during WWI. It is well documented that all sides were woefully unprepared for the wounds machine guns and mortars would cause. In A Farewell to Arms he does not glorify the war, he tells about how there are just normal humans there getting blown apart.
Not that he didn't receive a lot of fame and fortune in his lifetime but to say that just because he lived through all his ordeals doesn't make him lucky. I imagine that's why he committed suicide.
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