ITT: we post our 2 favourite poets, writers and philosophers and we judge others. I'll start
Poets:
>Leopardi
>Mallarmé
Writers:
>D'Annunzio
>Dostoyevsky
Philosophers:
>Nietzsche
>Sartre
>>7585444
You don't read a lot of philosophy
>Poets:
Rilke
Emerson
>Writers:
Joyce
Ovid
>Philosophers:
Shestov
Schopenhauer
Poets:
Crane
Donne
Writers:
Melville
Hawthorne
Philosophers:
Heidegger
Aquinas
>>7585444
Poets
>crane
>pound
Writers
>Gaddis
>Gass
Philosophers
>Kant
>Wittgenstein
>>7585607
oh I forgot, I guess I'm supposed to rate you guys. Here goes:
>>7585488
I love Blake but Chaucer is probably imo the most important poet to like. Not liking chaucer means there's something wrong with you. So good stuff there.
Tolstoy is fucking boring and I can't finish any of his books. I've been spoiled by poetry, where I can get just as much good from 12 lines as 1200 pages. Maybe I'll try one last time. Tacitus is great but I'm not able to read him in the original yet.
I dislike Plato, though he's a fun read. Heidegger is a poet's philosopher, so good choice.
>>7585463
Can you read Rilke in the original? Also Emerson is hit or miss but his hits are great. Uriel comes to mind.
Joyce is great. Ovid is great, have you read the Arthur Golding translation?
I haven't read either of those philosophers yet.
>>7585444
Did you read them both in the original? I can kind of squint through a side by side leopardi but Mallarme, even though I'm strong in french, is beyond me with his plays on sound.
Don't know who D'annunzio is. Dosto I dislike very much.
Nietzsche is fine if you don't take him seriously. Satre is never fine.
Poets:
>Rilke
>Dante
Writers:
>Steinbeck
>DFW
Philosophers:
>Evola
>Schopenhauer
>>7585444
Solid choices all around, I'm not much of a D'Annunzio man myself but I see his attractive. Have you tried Marinetti? Shit's fun.
>>7585488
>Plato
>Heidegger
We Kehre here. Nice choiches too, give me a primer on Blake?
>>7585607
You're over my head, probably, but I enjoed what I've read of Melville and Heidegger so cheers, man. Can't really abide Aquinas though, what do you find interesting in him?
Poets
>don't read much poetry, ought to start really, so I'll just say I quite liked Basho's Narrow Road to the Deep North and Ginsberg's Howl yes, meme me to death if you like
Writers
>Hunter S. Thompson
>William Burroughs
Philosophers
>Nietzsche
>Deleuze
>>7585444
Gib me recs pls
Poets:
>John Milton
>Walt Whitman
Writers:
>Ernest Hemingway
>Raymond Carver
Philosophers:
>Laozi
>Thoreau
>>7585444
Poets
>Browning
>Eliot
Writers
>Melville
>Shakespeare (his plays which, although written in verse usually, I don't consider poetry)
Philosophers (don't read much philosophy so my range is limited)
>Kierkegaard
>Aristotle
Pessoa
Alvarez de Azevedo
Tolstoy
Dostoevsky
Sartre
Kierkegaard
>>7585654
>Dante and DFW on the same list
That's like every generation of shit. You've got Evola though, so at least your politics are all right.
Poets:
>William Blake
>Omar Khayyam
Writers:
>Yukio Mishima
>Umberto Eco
Philosophers:
>Albert Camus
>Julius Evola
>>7585444
Poets
>Eliot
>Swenson
Writers
>Malamud
>Pynchon
Philosophers
>Deleuze and Guattari
>Hegel
>>7585758
What's wrong with Dante?
>>7585463
I haven't read much philosophy - Plato's the only one I've read multiple works on (from a Straussian lens).
>Poets
John Donne
Andrew Marvell
>Writers
Michael Ondaatje
Ralph Ellison
>Philosophers
Plato
Donald Davidson
>>7585786
>>Swenson
May?
Personally I've tabbed through her LoA collection at the library and don't get why Bloom vouches for her. Any poems to change my mind?
>>7585797
Are we specifically referring to the Divine Comedy?
>>7585811
Do you have a specific gripe concerning the Divine Comedy?
>>7585811
That's what I've read of his, yes
>>7585674
Stick to poetry where your taste is excellent, it gets worse as you go down your list.
Roast me:
Poets:
> Brecht
> Allen Ginsberg
Writers:
> Hunter S. Thompson
> Douglas Adams
>> Bonus:
> Jack Kerouac
Philosophers:
> John Stuart Mill
> Jeremy Bentham
>Poets:
William Blake
Paul Célan
>Writers:
Gustave Flaubert
Marcel Proust
>Philosophers:
Theodor W. Adorno
Heraclitus
>4u
Archilochus
William Blake
Shakespeare
Umberto Eco
Epicurus
Habermas
>>7585607
You have a profound distaste for the vast majority of things, and, though you think about suicide often, you know know you could never end yourself.
>>7585444
Nice. Your favorite philosophers are shit, though.
Poets:
>Rimbaud
>Niesche
Writers:
>Céline
>Dostoyevsky
Philosophers:
>Hegel
>Kierkegaard
Poets:
>Burns
>Blake
Writers:
>Dostoyevsky
>Shakespeare
Philosophers:
>Peirce
>Hegel
>>7585890
JSM and Bentham? Say it ain't so.
>>7585914
>You have a profound distaste for the vast majority of things
half and half
> though you think about suicide often
not once in my life
>>7585909
cool dude
>>7585859
thanks, I guess.
>Hölderlin
>Goethe
>Dostoyevsky
>Houellebecq
>Zizek
>Heidegger
Poets:
>Stevens
>Chaucer
Writers:
>Proust
>Gaddis
Philosophers:
>Kierkegaard
>Wittgenstein
>>7586146
You are incapable of sustained happiness.
Poets:
>W. B. Yeats
>Ted Hughes
Writers:
>William Burroughs
>Irvine Welsh
Philosophers:
>Arthur Schopenhauer
>Emil Cioran
>>7585444
Writers:
Kafka
Borges
Poets:
Hölderlin
Schiller
>>7586181
You either take or are very interested in drugs.
>>7586188
Forgot the Philosophers:
Kierkegaard
Hegel
>>7585444
>Poets
I dislike poetry and rarely read it.
>Writers
Dostoyevsky
McCarthy
>Philosophers
Schopenhauer
Thomas Paine
>>7586197
You treat literature as a hobby.
>>7586201
Well then I partake in my hobby daily.
>>7585444
Poets:
>Virgil
>Milton
Writers:
>Pynchon
>Montaigne
Philosophers:
>Spinoza
>Kant
>>7586146
You have a reverence for classics, particularly the relatively genius
>>7585640
I'm OP.
>Did you read them both in original?
I'm Italian so I read Leopardi in the original language. I read also Mallarmé in the original, but I need the traslation nearby.
>Don't know who D'annunzio is
The Fascist and straight version of Oscar Wilde (I'm not a fascist, I'm not even right-wing btw, but I like him very much)
I've noticed that everyone said that my philosophers aren't good, actually I read more of pure literature than philosophy, but I know most of them and I choose Nietzsche and Sartre just because they represents exactly how I am, a nihilist that after a period of depression understood that life can be beautiful because it's meaningless, a man can be a ubermensch and he can be an optimist thanks to the existentialism.
>>7586307
>Nihilist
So, how's middle school?
>>7585444
Poets:
>Robert Penn Warren
>Rilke
Writers:
>McCarthy
>J.M. Coetzee
Philosophers:
none
>>7585634
you'd like basil bunting if you haven't read him
Poets:
>Lautreamont
>Różewicz
Writers:
>Genet
>Blanchot
Philosophers:
>Foucault
>Heidegger
Poets:
>Rilke
>Valery
Writers:
>Beckett
>Faulkner
Philosophers:
>Kant
>Kierkegaard
>>7586413
i bet you'd like the southern fugitive poets
robert penn warren
john gould fletcher
john crowe ransom
allen tate
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/240308
>>7585640
>Nietzsche is fine if you don't take him seriously.
Fuck of cuck
>>7585640
>Nietzsche is fine if you don't take him seriously.
What an aggressively pleb thing to say when posturing
>>7585444
Poets:
>Shelley
>Keats
Writers:
>Joyce
>Montaigne
Philosophers:
>Marx
>Gautama
Poets:
>Shakepeare
>Rimbaud
Writers:
>Borges
>Tolstoy
Philosophers:
>Zhuangzi
>Leibniz
>>7586352
>Philosophers:
>none
How does it feel knowing that 75% of what you're reading is going over your head?
Poets
Shakespeare
John Donne or Neruda (but place holder since I want to read more poetry)
Writers (For those two bricks)
Tolstoy
Cervantes
Philosophers
Ghazali
Rousseau
>>7587042
are you sure? poets are, at least, philosophers
Poets
>Yeats
>Verlaine
Writers
>Borges
>Platonov
Philosophers
>Nietzsche
>Kierkegaard
>Poets
Homer
Rilke
>Writers
Hesse
Hawthorne
>Philosophers
Augustine
Kant
>Bonus: Historians
de Tocqueville
Herodotus
>Poets
Homer
MiltonI've never tried to deepen my knowledge of poetry, so I'm just posting the ones I've read and enjoyed.
>Writers
Gaddis
Thomas Mann
>Philosophers
Hegel
Heraclitus
>>7585907
It's Patrish up in heah.
>poets
Stevens
Donne
>prose
Faulkner
Conrad
>philosophy
Adorno
Hegel
>>7585926
>Peirce
>Poets
Not into poetry.
>Writers
Dostoevsky
Joyce
>Philosophers
Hume
Kant
>>7585607
>Writers:
>Melville
>Hawthorne
my nigger
>Poets
Baudelaire
Pessoa
>Writers
Borges
Mishima
>Philosophers
Schopenhauer
Kierkegaard
Poets:
>Keats
>Shakespeare
Writers:
>Proust
>Joyce
Philosophers
>Sarte
>Plato
>>7587592
the most acceptable answer on the thread, long live based hume, also if you like shitting on god then flew's falsification principle is something you'd enjoy, most full proof argument against gods existence.
Seriously smhing at all the people itt uninterested in poetry
>Poets
John Milton
George Herbert
>[Prose] writers
Lev Tolstoy
Henry James
>Philosophers
Spinoza
Kierkegaard
Poets:
Whitman
Percy Shelley
Writers:
Burroughs
Murakami
Philosophers/theorists:
Fanon
Lao Tzu
Nietzsche (fuck 2)
>Poets
Rilke
Hawthorne
>Writers
Kafka
John Williams
>Philosophers(cant choose two)
Kierkegaard
Wittgenstein
Aristotle
Hume
Poets:
Keats
Pound
Writers:
Hesse
Hazlitt
Philosophers:
Nietzsche
Spinoza
Poets:
Whitman
Ginsberg
Writers:
Pynchon
Burroughs
Philosophers:
Hegel
Sartre
>>7587633
Go with Aristotle and Kierkegaard,
Youll look smarter
>>7587150
Reminds me of how Poets and Philosophers would argue incessantly in the Classical period about which was more valid or insightful. Ultimately they are grasping for the exact same things through equally useful but opposite methods.
Poets
>N/A
Writers
>Dostoevsky
>Tolstoy
Philosophers
>Nietzsche
>Plato
Poets:
>Shiwu / Stonemountain
>Emily Dickinson
Writers:
>Thomas Ligotti
>Dostoyevsky
Philosophers:
>Heraclitus
>Dharmakirti
>>7587643
Not about looking smarter its about enjoying content friend
>>7587592
You're new into reading
>>7587617
You like to feel melancholy
>>7587620
You're boastful about your knowledge
>>7587624
You sneak genre fiction when you don't think anyone is looking
>>7587630
I don't know, but I hate your taste
>>7587633
Undergrad who reads often, takes it more seriously than most
>>7587638
You like to talk about your reading with peers
>>7587639
Alcoholic
>>7587649
First day on /lit/
>>7587663
responding to posts. based
Poets
>T.S. Eliot
>Anne Sexton
Writers
>Robert Walser
>Miranda July
Philosophers
>Deleuze
>Guattari
>>7586316
kek
Poets:
>Swinburne
>Emerson
Writers
>Hawthorne
>Nabokov
Philosophers
>Hegel
>Bergson
>poets
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Chaucer
>writers
Chuck Klosterman
Hunter S. Thompson
>philosophers
Chomsky
does Derrida count? if so Derrida
>>7587606
yeah I'm a 100 percent american literati these days. I kind of wish that Melville's reaction to Emerson would have survived as long as Emerson's ideas themselves. Probably would fix half the problems the country's facing right now with racial politics, Whitmanism, etc.
Poets:
>Pavese
>Eliot
Writers
>Thomas Bernhard
>Joseph Roth
Philosophers
>Schopenhauer
>Hume
>>7587701
>You have a strong feminine side
Made me kek because people usually imply the opposite, especially when I mention Emerson or Nabokov. What's your rationale?
>>7587709
I interpreted the Emerson and Nabokov as overcompensation, the Swinburne as general confusion/angst and Bergson as a peak into your true inner soft side
don't take these too seriously anon
>>7587729
>the Swinburne as general confusion/angst
that's where you fucked up son, I just like his dank rhymes
>>7587663
not an undergrad, hoping to be one though
>>7587735
anyway who says having a feminine side is bad
>Homer
>Rimbaud
>Huysmans
>Pynchon
>Plato
>Wittgenstein
>>7586430
Thanks! I'll look it up!
I didn't know about them and I indeed like the poem you posted.
>>7587692
you think that criticism is the same thing as being smart
Poets:
Wallace Stevens
Friedrich Hölderlin
Writers:
Kafka
Milan Kundera
Philosophers:
Heidegger
Deleuze
Willy Blake
Walt Whitman
David Wallace
Joyce
Soren Kierkegaard
Zizek because I'm alive to witness his youtube rants.
poets:
- Leopardi
- Dante
writers:
- Durrenmatt
- Schiller
philosophers:
-Stirner
-schopenhauer
Trakl
Simic
Pavese
Musil
Bataille
Blanchot
>>7589460
Fuck you faggot.
You have a very rigid perception of what a good book is.
>Milton
>Keats
>Kafka
>Dazai
>Kierkegaard
>Wittgenstein
Poets:
lmao, don't read poetry
Writers:
>Dostoyevsky
Philosophers/Writers:
>Nietzsche
>Camus
>Rand
>>7589354
You think life is mostly despair, but you think is possible to find it enjoyable if you take a conscious step into a believe based on faith, which you haven't dare to take yet.
>>7587688
You seem to be disciplined and self-controlled outside, but you tend to be worrisome and insecure inside.
>>7587657
You have a tendency to be critical of yourself, because of that you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing.
>>7587278
You look like the kind of people that prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations.
>>7590386
FUCK, forgot:
Writers:
>Kafka
>>7590386
you have the intellect of a seagull
>>7591002
That's being too generous
Poets:
>Leopardi
>Eliot
Writers:
>Alexandre Dumas
>Vonnegut
Philosophers (I'm not trying to be an attention whore, I just love them):
>Machiavelli
>Foucault
>Walter Benjamin
>Max Weber
>>7590386
A lot of your life and the world you live in is inside your head. I think.
Poets:
>John Milton
>W.H.Auden
Writers:
>Lord Dunsany
>Tolstoy
Philosophers:
>Kierkegaard
>Nietzsche
Poets:
>Robert Frost
>Juvenal
Writers:
>Tacitus
>Hemingway
Philosophers:
>Evola
>Marcus Aurelius
>>7592210
You are desperately trying to attain some sense of manhood, you have always been the median in life, average, common, unpeculiar.
>>7592210
It upsets you that women don't have instinct for honor or moral codes.
>poets:
Larkin
Betjeman
>writers:
Bernhard
H. James
>philosophers:
never read a single one in my life
>>7592279
"/lit/ - never read a single one in my life"
>>7592288
/lit/ is not a philosophy board tho. I'm quite confused at the ubiquitous assertion one finds today that writers should be required to be political thinkers first and stylists second, if at all. For my part, I see nothing of interest in philosophy aside from much delightful obfuscatory language, which is however employed to rather limited ends, and a vehement, all-denigrating elitism, which I find very much unlike the spirit of the novel. That everyone who wishes to write should be an optimate and morally upright, this suggestion I deem offensive.
>>7592324
>posts life story
fuck off, pleb.
>>7592324
>For my part, I see nothing of interest in philosophy
You just admitted to never reading a single one in your life. This is all blind speculation to you. Stop posturing like an absolute wank.
>>7592336
That is literally what novels are, you damn Nazi. Not histories of ideas, not political theory, nor considerations of morality. A novel is a story. It is not the realm of philosophers. Different profession altogether. Everyone who claims otherwise wants to extinguish the story for the parable.
>>7592343
I've read theory before - sociology, psychoanalysis, and I've browsed some philosophical texts. But to be able to lay claim to a favourite philosopher is another thing altogether.
>>7592349
>a bunch of disparate platitudes to defend your never having read any philosophy seriously
This is the most sophomoric form of contrarianism. Read more, you dolt.
>>7592353
>and I've browsed some
Browsed, you say? Well I guess you're quite the authority then. Go get 'em, genius.
>>7592354
>>7592356
Neither of you has attempted to explain to me why the knowledge of philosophy is supposed to be a necessary prerequisite of engaging with literature. I don't recall Austen, Dickens or even Joyce being known for their intimate knowledge of any philosophical tradition. So again, why this literal injunction to read philosophy or quit writing?
>>7592365
>even Joyce
I remember Dedalus going on and on about Aquinas in Portrait.
>>7592456
He's just rationalizing the creeping realization of his own inferiority and possibly mental handicap
>>7592456
Which you would expect to read from a writer who had been educated by Jesuits. The theme of breaking free from tradition, represented by religious and familial observances, is one he most overtly expressed and it is in this involuntary context that Joyce's discussion of the scholastics can be read.
>>7585444
come va il liceo op?
>>7592473
And here we see the crux of this thread and this board: never mind the pleasure and subjective experience of reading: what is truly important is to appear intelligent. God forbid that one should read selectively, just for entertainment. No, to be able to reproduce the intellectual history of western civilization is what is instrumental to developing literary taste, and not one's subjective appreciation of the literary voice.
>>7592508
>No, to be able to reproduce the intellectual history of western civilization is what is instrumental to developing literary taste
Spare anon your coy bullshit. No one is telling you to "reproduce the intellectual history of western civilization", anon is merely suggesting that you stop "browsing" philosophical texts and perhaps fucking read one from start to finish this time.
The amount of posturing nonsense that you've thrown around here really does make lines like
>what is truly important is to appear intelligent.
indict you to a fucking hilarious degree.
>>7592508
>too lazy to do the reading but too pseudo to admit it
>>7585444
Poets:
>Wordsworth
>Whitman
Writers:
>Hunter S Thompson
>Kurt Vonnegut
Philosophers:
>Buddha
>Jesus
>>7592508
I don't care whether or not I look intelligent. I do however care about reading intelligent works. There's tens of thousands of works of awful fanfiction that I could be reading if I didn't care about quality.
>>7592261
>Le Clezio
>Melville
I like you, you're probably french and like to pay attention to small, seemingly unimportant details. Symbolism would be right up your sleeve
>>7589737
Natural born pessimist
>>7592175
You like to try new things
>Poets
Keats
Apollinaire
>Writers
Pynchon
Le Clézio
>Philosophers
Derrida (mostly his language philo rest is shit)
Kant
>>7585444
Poets: Dante and Matos
Writers: Wolfe and Dostoevksy
Philosophers: Plato and Aquinas
>>7586753
yes, I like your list. You and I are both men of a sensitive nature.
Poets: Dylan Thomas
Walt Whitman
Writers: Ernest Hemmingway
John Steinbeck
Philosophers: Ralph Waldo Emerson
Henry David Thoreau
>>7589365
You're European and have probably been in a cult
>Hughes
>Rimbaud
>Dostoevsky
>Carver
>Schopenhauer
>Hume
Poets:
>William Blake
>Wilfred Owen
Writers:
>Ayn Rand
>Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Philosophers:
>Albert Camus
>Marcus Aruelius
>poets
tupac
mamet
>writers
jesus of nazerath
martin scorcese
chuck palahniuk
>philosophers
camus
tupic
>Poets
Dickenson
Whitman
>Writers
Emerson
Hemingway
>Philosophy
Pyrrho
Zizek
>>7585607
>Hawthorne
poets
>John Donne
>e.e. cummings
writers
>Hemingway
>Steinbeck
philosophers
>Lao Tzu
>David Hume
>Poets
Brautigan
Loy
>Writers
Kafka
Marlowe
>Philosophy
Kierkegaard
Wittgenstein
>>7594763
not liking Hawthorne is Being A Nonreader 101 material
Poets:
>T.S Eliot
>John Milton
Writers:
>Joyce
>Kafka or Gombrowicz
Philosophers:
>Nietzsche
>Levinas
>>7594254
You wish you were an existentialist and you hate your life. You deperately want to travel the world and the country, but find a lack of opportunity and purpose. Hows that novel coming along?
Poets:
>Ginsberg
>Frost
Writers:
>Kerouac
>Hemingway
Philosophers:
>Gautama Buddha
>Confucius
>Poets
Lorca
Nicanor Parra
>Writers
Bolaño
Cortázar
>Philosophers
Aristotle
Heidegger
Some poetry recs would be welcome, since I don't really read that much poetry
>>7596051
You are younger than 18
>>7585444
poets:
>wordsworth
>yeats
writers:
>tolstoy
>chesterton
philosphers
>kirkeguaard
>Desiderius Erasmus
Poets:
>Mallarme
>Parshchikov
Writers:
>Ducasse
>Robbe-Grillet
Philosophers:
>Derrida
>Rudnev
How Distant Everything Is!
I don’t understand why we must do things in this world, why we must have friends and aspirations, hopes and dreams. Wouldn’t it be better to retreat to a faraway corner of the world, where all its noise and complications would be heard no more? Then we could renounce culture and ambitions; we would lose everything and gain nothing; for what is there to be gained from this world? There are people tho whom gain is unimportant, who are hopelessly unhappy and lonely. We are so closed to one another! And yet, were we to be totally open to each other, reading into the depths of our souls, how much of our destiny would we see? We are so lonely in life the we must ask ourselves if the loneliness
of dying is not a symbol of our human existence. Can there be any consolation at the last moment? This willingness to live and die in society is a mark of great deficiency. It is a thousand times preferable to die somewhiere alone and abandoned so that you can die without melodeamatic posturing, unseen by anyone.
I despise people who on their deathbed master themselves and adopt a pose in order to impress. Tears do not burn except in solitude. Those who ask to be surrounded by friends when they die do so out of fear and inability to live their final moments alone. They want to forget death at the moment of death. They lack inifinite heroism. Why don’t they lock their door and suffer those maddening sensations with a lucidity and a fear beyond all limits?
We are so isolated form everything! But isn’t everything equally inaccessible to us? The deepest and most organic death is death in solitude, when even light becomes a principle of death. In such moments you will be severed from life, from love, simles, friends and even from death. And you will ask yourself if there is anything besides the nothingness of the world and your own nothingness.
On the heights of despair-Cioran
ITT: inconsistent taste and faggotry
>look how unique my selections are compared to everyone else's
poets:
>Shelley
>Schiller
writers:
>Melville
>Poe
Philosophers:
Plato
Leibniz
>H.D.
>Keats
>Nabokov
>Hesse
>Heidegger
>Camus
>>7585444
>poets
Nesimî
doesn't matter
>writers
Abbas Sayar
Anthony Burgess
>philosophers
meh. I haven't read enough of different philosophers to claim favorites among them. I respect ibn Tufeyl's and Schopenhauer's reasoning though, that I can say.
>>7594584
You sound like a meek, not necessarily in the bad way. Just docile.
>>7597272
Perhaps only a coincidence but half of those names are among my first-reads in foreign languages.
Writers:
Dumas
Steinbeck
Poets:
Homer
Ovid
Philosophers
Marcus Aurelius
Mencius
>>7597282
Amending my writers
Luo Guanzhong in place of Steinbeck
Poets:
>Rimbaud
>Dylan Thomas
Writers:
>Kafka
>Camus
Philosophers:
>Sartre
>Nietzsche
>>7597725
I might swap Camus with De Montaigne
>>7587701
>You have a hard time making up your mind about things
I mean, it's not exactly a bold guess to make, but yes.
Poets
>Melville
>Thoreau
Authors
>Osamu Dazai
>Joseph Heller
Philosophers
>Bentham
>Marcus Aurelius