Anyone here read it? How close were you to blowing your brains out?
I opened it up once and it wasn't even in fucking English, then I closed it and put it back on the shelf.
Part of me wants to read it but I've read Portrait of the Artist and found it overrated and convoluted for the sake of being convoluted.
Is Finnegan's Wake worth it?
I think people find it difficult to read and so assume it must be some masterful work of art, in reality, I think most of Hemingway's works have more complex and deep messages than that book had.
If you found Portrait convoluted you shouldn't even consider Wake. Not even being mean, but Wake is the most difficult work of literature written, while Portrait wouldn't even crack the top 20.
>Phall if you but will, rise you must:
>his roundhead staple of other days to rise in undress maisonry... a waalworth of a skyerscape of most eyeful hoyth entowerly
dick jokes all over the place
It's the first meme book, anon. He got away with so much in Ulysses, he wanted to see how far he could go with it. It's a big joke that it's so difficult. He's even quoted as saying he made it so difficult to make professors argue about it for centuries and insure his immortality. And he didn't believe geniuses ever make mistakes (which may have been a joke in itself).
This is written by a man who used to pick fights in bars and have Hemingway fight for him while he laughed. This is a man whose biggest turn on were his wife's farts.
It's all a big joke.
PRO-TIP: Read it in the most ridiculously thick, drunken Irish accent/brogue you can come up with. It'll start to flow better.
Don't worry. You'll never understand it.
---AAAH, eggscellent. Full disclaimerclosure: I am not the OP.
I have been patently awaiting my first opportunity to riposte some dank OC that I made recently, in a tread where it would be revenant. And here it is (rearrived).
Pictured are the ten "thundrerdwords", or one-hundred letter words of Finagains Wake (except the last one, which has 101 letters), withal analysis.
I looked for these words online, but I found the links wanting, haints this excel-jesus.
this is how reddit tries to assimilate itself: stealing phrases he sees with no understand of how they are used, thereby exposing themselves as reddit in an even more blatant manner
Oh damn, someone raged early. The irony being that getting this mad in under 90 seconds (and possibly angrily white-knighting) is waaaay more pretentious than someone having fun, having a meme. Hypretension is first of all associated with unpleasant salty people, after all.
If you don't like dumbstupid puns on some, /some/ level, then why read FW?
Although I am hoppy that another pepe has reeeeeified you as an roboticallyunproductive triestegarcon, or: pretentious. Your thing also degenerated into a teenagetardfight in under five minutes, esp. with the "huh huh well um "fagot" is a new word right um".
I'm slowly going through it now. About halfway through and I'm enjoying it. Feel like I'm losing my mind reading it in long stints but still very enjoyable. I like having a few drinks and reading parts I've really liked so far aloud to my friends.
The Portrait of an Artist was required reading for 11th grade honors English at my American high school. Other required reading that I remember from high school:
House of Spirits
Crime and Punishment
Heart of Darkness
Lord of the Flies
The Power of One
The Grapes of Wrath
The Glass Menagerie
MacBeth / Hamlet / Romeo & Juliet
If Dubliners and Portrait are so great, why hasn't RTE directed an adaptation yet?
Being only slightly tongue in cheek here.
>implying rte will ever do anything good.
You must remember they commissioned 'The Centre' and 'Damo and Ivor'. Hell, republic of telly is considered one of their flagship shows. Utter drivel.
Is it any good actually? I saw the Gleeson fella in The Walworth Farce last year and he was decent enough in it. Domhnall and Brendan were the show-stealers, but you can't attribute that to any fault on his behalf.
I should also watch Love/hate desu
To be fair, I liked the Charlie Haughy drama, and not just because CIA was in it. I haven't seen Rebellion but it looks shite.
The only reason I watched Republic of Telly was to fap to Jen
Not really m8, I found it pretty dire. Lots of historical errors, anachronisms and cringeworthy dialogue. If you stand perfectly still at Glasnevin at 10 o'clock on a weekdday night, you should hear Pearse turning in his grave.
I also didn't like Love / Hate desu. Really, we should all just give up paying the license fee.
*produced an adaptation, rather.
It seems like Belfast would be a good place to produce a film with elements of Joyce's Dubliners and Fellini's later movie concerning Rome (in a kind of British gloss of course).
Maybe I'm just fascinated with the way Felllini managed to make a film about Rome? I suppose I'd rather see a personal meditation on broader historical themes than another drama grounded in the early 20th Century.
dubliners is his most accessible by far.
Objective ranking is Ulysses > dubliners >wake >portrait
If dubliners was literally just The Dead and Ivy Day in the Conference Room it would be above Ulysses desu.
>not liking araby
>not liking after the race
>not liking grace
>not liking a little cloud
>not appreciating how the stories play off each other and how the collection works as a whole
>not appreciating the intricate structure of the entire work
senpai what are you doing
>implying I didnt like those and just didn't think they were as good as the two I mentioned
I don't have the book with me and I read it almost a year ago, but the only one I remember that I legitimately didn't like was the one about the guy who is a complete cunt to everyone and then eventually he eats an orange white and green dinner. Shit story 2bh, people who defend it are Ireland ministry of tourism shills trying to promote one of the only things that has ever made their country relevant.
He is dead. Our Uncrowned King is dead.
O, Erin, mourn with grief and woe
For he lies dead whom the fell gang
Of modern hypocrites laid low.
He lies slain by the coward hounds
He raised to glory from the mire;
And Erin's hopes and Erin's dreams
Perish upon her monarch's pyre.
In palace, cabin or in cot
The Irish heart where'er it be
Is bowed with woe -- for he is gone
Who would have wrought her destiny.
He would have had his Erin famed,
The green flag gloriously unfurled,
Her statesmen, bards and warriors raised
Before the nations of the World.
He dreamed (alas, 'twas but a dream!)
Of Liberty: but as he strove
To clutch that idol, treachery
Sundered him from the thing he loved.
Shame on the coward, caitiff hands
That smote their Lord or with a kiss
Betrayed him to the rabble-rout
Of fawning priests -- no friends of his.
May everlasting shame consume
The memory of those who tried
To befoul and smear the exalted name
Of one who spurned them in his pride.
He fell as fall the mighty ones,
Nobly undaunted to the last,
And death has now united him
With Erin's heroes of the past.
No sound of strife disturb his sleep!
Calmly he rests: no human pain
Or high ambition spurs him now
The peaks of glory to attain.
They had their way: they laid him low.
But Erin, list, his spirit may
Rise, like the Phoenix from the flames,
When breaks the dawning of the day,
The day that brings us Freedom's reign.
And on that day may Erin well
Pledge in the cup she lifts to Joy
One grief -- the memory of Parnell.
>tfw someone who was more of a novelist than a poet was also the greatest poet of all time
I just finished reading this short story. Pretty cool, I was impressed by the poem and it was even a bit overwhelming.
I'm an illiterate retard who's trying to get into reading. Would you recommend I read Ulysses?
Could you find the Greek Anthology in an Irish schoolroom or library? Do they teach the Elegaic Poets? Not the Rexroth shit, but the real stuff?
There's so much of the elegiac in Joyce, and so much of Joyce in Fellini...