>figure I'll take a break from literature and read nothing but genre fic for a while to relax
>it's actually really fucking boring
Is this how genreplebs feel when they read actual literature?
>decide that living the simple life with my earth slut wife is no longer good enough
>go train in the mountains with earth's greatest fighters
>learn to master my ki
>master a number of techniques
>get nostalgic for my old life, been training for so long
>come back down from the mountain
>try to hug my wife
>instantly vaporize her
>mfw my power level has grown so much that i cannot even return to the pleb life if i try
I wish I could just enjoy normie things. Maybe then I could have friends or even a gf.
Martin Eden might be a book you find similar to what you are feeling. A poor guy with no education becomes very educated, but he doesn't like the ones he once idolised, the rich educated people, but when he tries to grasp the fun and happiness he once felt with his uneducated friends and not questioning what is around him he fails. He can no longer do it.
>tfw can say that without sounding like a huge dick
>tfw have a small dick and no friends and no gf
you're reading the wrong genres then. fantasy is inherently dog shit. sci fi requires a really good writer. heinlein, asimov, bradbury, wolfe... are not good writers. they're just autists. crime fiction, detective novels—even the worst of these are entertaining
Is it fucking 1936? The genre has been done to death and back.
And thinking Asimov can't write but Jennifer Jaynes can? Did you fall down a flight of stairs as a kid?
>tfw there are people like OP who don't understand there are literal garbage that only artistic goal is to entertain people who are children or their mental and emotional growth was incomplete and they're literal teenagers or children in adult bodies
>tfw you grow up from the patrician memes and can enjoy pretty much anything
>tfw I can enjoy now garbage like twilight because I understand what's the kind of people that read that shit
>not watching garbage like love hina to pick up their errors and broke it apart to understand why plebs enjoy it
>tfw can enjoy easily stuff like shakespeare as well as sword art online because I'm not a fucking retard who thinks they can even be compared
>comercial music and radio pop are fucking garbage, why they're not like X or Y music genre that is more patrician
>tfw le patrician reddit fedora supreme gentleman
I'm sure you're the live of the party and got drowned in pussy by talking to those emo girls who are into screamo garbage about vivaldi four seasons.
Jay and Mike saw Inherent vice and didnt' get it. You have to realize that plebs are 90 percent of the population includes most smart people. This types of ART projects are for the 10 percent who waste their time on reading 1000 pages on bullshit. At the end of the day. You reall need a stephen king to only keep the industry going.
i guess i see what you mean but i guess i expected a little more out of a guy who seems to have such a sense of smug knowing superiority about himself when it comes to movies (really referring to mike and jay here)
i wonder what Max Landis thought of it
Of course genre fiction is boring. Genre fiction is like a lackluster handjob in a parking lot from your 6th grade gym teacher.
Literature is like being deep-throated, rimmed, and having your balls sucked simultaneously by three horny Swedish girls on vacation in Ibiza.
Well, a great science fiction book won't preoccupy itself with narrative for entertainment's sake, but rather ask a big question- a question that many of us might wonder ourselves, and then use the narrative as a way of presenting one possible answer, and why. "Showing your work," in other words.
For example, many people ask on this site, why would aliens bother invading Earth? Aren't we basically just insects to them? In the book Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke, the author asks this, and many other questions, and then presents to the reader one possible scenario in which aliens may want to invade, but not harm humanity.
Good sci-fi can reignite a reader's child like sense of wonder towards the universe, and in doing so, encourage them to be a more engaged, mindful, questioning person. These kinds of people are essential for a society to progress.
While I think that 9.9 times out of ten when someone says something is subversive (especially in academia) they are full of shit, there's something subversive about that film. Approprating an icon of bad taste in an auteur film and making it work well is pretty audacious. Very Pynchonian too.
did OP ever say what book he read. what's the rule, that 90% of everything is crap, because it applies to genre fic and literary fic too, you gotta ask someone who knows genre fic well what to read
The genre divide thing really makes very little sense to me. Is it an American thing? I mean, in most of the world authors who write about weird, fantastic shit aren't fantasy or scifi, they're just authors. Why does America have this super-segregated literature industry? Is that why all your modern literature is this self-indulgent Tao Lin/Franzen/DFW kind of guff?
That's right. As Kermode says, just because people paid for it doesn't mean they liked it. My mum used to have a bunch of favorite actors and would just watch any movie they were in, regardless of whether it was direct to video garbage or whatever, and somehow she was consistently surprised by how terrible these movies largely turned out to be. Similarly, I once had a conversation with my grandmother where, after she had watched an entire episode of Two and Half Men without making a peep, she turned to me and said, "That show is so funny!" Like, you didn't laugh once, how fucking funny could it have been? But not everybody has this Google brain where you're constantly aware that a universe of knowledge is available at all times. As a result, people use these ludicrously imperfect methods of choosing how to entertain themselves, and they're so fucking stupid, even when the entertainment sucks, they somehow feel they have gotten the complete experience.
But it's pretty fucking established that those authors have far different priorities, that's why the genre distinction. The genre authors strive for a certain "thing" and the fiction authors don't and focus on their craft instead.
Very loose and general explanation for sure but the genre distinction is useful. Except for a few outliers like Ballard.