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This is 'White Flag' by the painter Jasper Johns. It is considered a modern masterpiece. Anyone else wanna blow their brains out rather than try and understand modern art? I mean a lot of it I can appreciate but this is completely opaque to me
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>>7571452
If you read about the art preceding and following any masterpiece it becomes a lot easier to understand it's significance

It's the same with literature, I imagine
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>>7571452
>this is completely opaque to me
If you look closely, underneath the white paint is an American flag. I missed it at first too.
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ok I take back everything I said, this I can get behind. This is Tracy Emin's bed, literally her own bed exhibited as art but
>The artwork generated considerable media furor, particularly over the fact that the bedsheets were stained with bodily secretions and the floor had items from the artist's room, such as condoms, underwear with menstrual blood stains, other detritus, and functional, everyday objects, including a pair of slippers. The bed was presented in the state that Emin claimed it had been after languishing in it for several days; at the time she was suffering suicidal depression brought on by relationship difficulties.

and this part holy shit
>Two performance artists, Yuan Chai and Jian Jun Xi, jumped on the bed with bare torsos in order to improve the work, which they thought had not gone far enough. They called their performance Two Naked Men Jump into Tracey's Bed. The men also had a pillow fight[1] on the bed for around fifteen minutes, to applause from the crowd, before being removed by security guards.
top kek
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>>7571480
yeah, i think it's the white paint that me confused at first too, but then i noticed the outline of the stripes.
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Accept the fact that art is and always has been propaganda bought and payed for by the elites. If the elites want to edify the plebs with beautiful works of art, they will. If the elites want to brutalise the plebs with brutal works of "art", they will.
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>>7571511
>>7571480
I don't mean literally opaque you dumb dumbs, its obviously a flag
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>>7571501

it's a farce. i hate to say it but notice the only way to change anything in this world is by violence.
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This painting is about America being dominated by white people, it's literally not that hard to understand
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>>7571480
top post, it was very kind of you to point this out to OP, it really was pretty opaque, it's interesting how the artist hid the flag so well
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>>7571545
its actually not, Jasper Johns has many pieces which exhibit the American flag in its normal red, white and blue. The reason he painted over it in white is because he wanted to specifically examine the shapes of the flag instead of the color, white accomplishes this better than black
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>>7571452
It's arguable, but I wouldn't call it modern though
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>>7571550

wow that is dog shit. if you paid someone to teach you that, you wasted your money.

congratulations, you are now qualified to clean toilets.
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>>7571563
no one taught me that I just watched an interview of him where he said that almost verbatim because I was curious about the painting, calm down
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>>7571550
Ah. Well art is open to many interpretations.
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>>7571552
it is literally modern art, modern art refers to a time period (varying by who you ask) from a bit after the turn of the century to the late 1930s (never after the start of WW2.) anything after that is considered post-modern
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>>7571568
Unless when it's wrong, like you were. The painting is ACTUALLY about government spending, it would be much cheaper to just buy white flags instead of buying all of those colors.
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>>7571573
its actually about how the jews sank the lusitania
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>>7571577
Oh, because of "false flag"? I get it, that might be right actually.

But in the authors autobiography he actually says that it's a piece complaining about how cold it gets in the winter, get it? Because snow is white. And the artist doesn't like snow.
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Conceptual art can allow you to learn something about society, the human condition, yourself, and others.

some art is about art, just like some literature is

artists are trying to express something usually

pls don't make faces at these things, only like very complicated pretty classical art is like only reading YA and genre fiction or only listening to 'real music' like dadrock lol

art is the best at feels
much of it is funny on purpose
and a lot of it is fun to walk into
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>>7571579
Those fucking artists really like to keep their ass at warmth.
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>>7571587
*only liking
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>>7571587
but i dont only like classical paintings in fact my favorite artist is Henry Darger :) my extremely plebby reasoning for liking him is because his extensive use of tracing using images from pop culture like the coppertone girl and cut/paste to create his works shows you don't have to have technical ability to create art, his main expertise is agreed to be his use of color, literally coloring in the lines, it shows how everyone can be an artist :) And how the need to express bursts through poverty, mental illness, isolation and complete lack of technical ability. also he wrote an extremely fucking long and weird novel to accompany the subjects of his paintings, the Vivian girls, child soldiers/angels with dicks who live on an alternate planet and are in an endless war with the adults. weird dude. worked as janitor almost his whole life. all his art almost got thrown away but a famous Chicago photographer happened upon it and saw its value and rescued it
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Jasper Johns is literally worthless, he himself says he puts no meaning into his work, so any reading of it is worthless.
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>>7571597
how is that any less technically proficient than a rauschenberg?
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>>7571613
because nearly all of the objects in it are traced
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>>7571621
and? raschenberg's works were literally pasted. tracing involves more technical skill than that. the idea of technical ability has no meaning in modern art hence why it's shit
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>>7571606
But isn't he saying that the american psyche is just painted on the real truth, just as he paints the flags on newspapers.
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>>7571631
not that I really wanna quibble over which weird artist was worse at creating art but tracing and coloring inside lines are something a child of six can do, looking at this rauschenberg's work I see a lot of silk screens which is a more complicated process
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>>7571571
When do you think this painting was made?
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>>7571647
oh lol it was '55, my mistake. confused the date with 1930, the year of his birth
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>>7571452
Since that's not modern, here's a real modern masterpiece
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>>7571571
That is so stupid btw. Modern should mean the last 20 yrs. once something is 20 yrs old it should get a new permanenet name. Same issue with "contemporary"
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>>7571452
The dirt is what makes it a flag, instead of a blank.
The dirt on white is what makes white white.
Ying Yang.
It is the flag of the united states, which is a country that is famous for not surrendering - being "white" - and its dirt is what makes it a flag/the country it is.

But yeah, fifty shades of gray is better.
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>>7571751
>famous for not surrendering
lol
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ITT: Jewish "Art"
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>>7571548
idea: an art exposition for americlaps named "Can you find the flag?" where I photoshop flags into modern, classic and ancient art.
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>>7571452
MODS PLEASE DELETE OR MOVE, THIS BELONGS IN >>>/his/
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>>7571662
Malevitch is actually bretty interesting from a philosohical standoint.
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>>7571835
*philosophical standpoint

the "p" key on my keyboard is half broken because of a misoriented jet of ejaculate that I tried to clean it up with a screwdriver
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It is kind of funny that 4chan has an actual art board, but they are literally middle school drawers over there (drawing anime bitches, dragons, swords and the like) it is literally the most autistic board and you can never post art there.
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>>7571850
why did you orient it wrong?
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>>7571958
My mind wasn't to it because I was jacking off to porn.
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People always say this but if you ask some random pleb on the street what they "understand" about say, the mona lisa or starry night, what would they say? "it's a picture of a woman and it's really good" wow nice 'understanding', guy
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>>7572092
This
I talked about modern art with a manlet the other day and out of nowhere he starts bashing people who buy really expensive art.

Then I ask him what he would spend his money on if he was rich and he says "cars". Tens and tens of cars. He made a list.

Now some art is ridiculously expensive I know but plebs step up your game please.
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>>7572104
my point is that most people who complain about modern/abstract art being meaningless garbage are also incapable of deriving meaning from more intricate pieces of artwork. I don't think they really care about 'meaning' in the artwork or even have an idea of what they intend when they say they want more meaningful artwork.
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>>7572092
Why does art need to be "understood"? Anyone can appreciate the talent behind the mona lisa or starry night without having to analyze their "meaning" to hell and back.
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/lit/ is a ghetto.
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>>7571606
>Jasper Johns is literally worthless,
This should be funny
>he himself says he puts no meaning into his work,
Ok interesting
>so any reading of it is worthless.
Dead fucking wrong.
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>>7571632
>newspapers
>truth

Loud jewish laughter
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there is plenty of good contemporary art (please stop calling contemporary art modern art btw)
that being said, no one cares about it, art has absolutely no impact on the public consciousness anymore
the art world simply exists within itself, artists make art for other artists and the government funds it
I think we just fund it because art has always existed and we want to pretend it still matters
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>>7572192
Do you really think some pleb farmer got really excited and influenced by the Mona Lisa?
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>>7572192
The art world is a walled garden. An extremely odd one.
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