The Discovery of Heaven by Dutch writer Harry Mulisch
Great cover and I agree
Grapes is only better known because its subject matter is important to Americans. It does very well in educating people about the great depression which makes it a good pick for school literature but I'd say that East of Eden is the better novel.
i'm not sure how well it is translated, but "beyond sleep" (nooit meer slapen) by w.f. hermans is also a fantastic book.
the discovery of heaven is quite thick (~900 pages) but truly worth the read, i especially enjoyed the fantastically written bond between onno quist and max delius.
I meant it more like, a lot of major famous authors rarely get discussed, but for the amount of work Steinbeck has out, he RARELY gets discussed here. Maybe it's because Grapes is taught in schools?
In the past two years /pol/ shit posters have really distorted the reality around these parts because mods fail to hang themselves in their closest's so instead they jerk off to right-winged shitposts.
Mieville does not have a magnum opus yet, but if he did, it would be Perdido or The City & The City, not Embassytown.
East of Eden is magnum opus, but Cannery Row is best.
Steinbeck is great.
Want to read.
I think that people don't understand that magnum opuses have to be long to be magnum opuses. Delillo's magnum opus (and his best work anyway) is Underworld.
Takes your mind out and puts it back in a different orientation.
I'll definetly check that one out thanks, any other Dutch literary recommendations?
And yeah, that friendship really made the novel for me too. I assume you know that it was based on a real life friendship between Mulisch and chess player J. H. Donner?
(a Dutch 'essay' on that aspect: http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/_ons003199301_01/_ons003199301_01_0052.php )
You're insulting me with your weak bait
Someone explain to me why East of Eden wasn't ultimately a waste of my time.
Was the prose pretty good? Sure. Matter of fact, the first ~200 pgs were god-tier prose, the landscape stuff: amazing.
Was Samuel Hams a cool character: yes, loved him.
Did the book end with 250 pgs of Steinbeck not being able to wrap up the narrative in a way that wasn't 100% predictable/repetitious? Yes.
I would honestly tell people to read the first half of the book for prose, then stop reading. The narrative of this book fucking sucks.
The character development of everyone except for Samuel, Aron, Cal, and Tom Hams, sucked fucking ass.
>Huehuehue what if I just say that Kate's evil is almost...unexplainable kek kek kek they will fucking love this
>You needy some tee missa hamirton?! Okee! I see what I can doo! It was merely a facade Samuel, I am well-versed in the English language and I only put on this ruse to meet societal expectations. See, the man who wrote this character is actually not a racist individual, he's culturally sensitive in various ways. Brb gonna go smoke opium and ponder Kant with some other old asian guys
>Oh Galdang i really am a hardass! I hope I learn to love by the end of this book
Wait, an unnamed character is signing up for the Army?! It couldn't be...A-Aron....c-could it?!
Honestly, if you think this is his Magnum Opus, or if he even belongs in the same conversation as Hemingway or Faulker, go down to Kate's Place and get fucked.
for some reason whenever I read that title I always imagine some women or girl using the sex-toy called "anal beads" that looks like a bunch of balls on a string that you shove up your bum
>tfw I would totally go down to Kate's place