What the shit was Sloane's problem? Did I skip something essential, or why was he so depressed about the actual end of the war? Does this get explained later on (I'm only on page 90).
Sorry for another Stoner thread, I couldn't find the one that was posted a few days ago.
I like to think that Sloane was weeping for the figurative death of the old world. He truly loved the literary traditions of antiquity, like Stoner, and he could anticipate the transformation America's zeitgeist would undergo (Modernism) following the internalization of WW1's traumas.
It gets a lot of threads but most of them aren't actual discussion.
This issue is exacerbated because of his setting. He is constantly surrounded by new students which makes him painfully aware that the younger generation will accept this new world because they never knew anything else. Sloane is further estranged by the fact that even among teachers he seems to be the only aware of the descent war is emblematic of.
it is all explained on page 404. Turns out there is no books for Sloan to read that give him the the same feeling he feels after the world is going into turmoil, so he gets more depressed. On another note is I just got Catch-22 and the cashier told me "wow you don't want an easy read then" is Catch-22 hard to read?
>is Catch-22 hard to read?
Not at all, its probably the easiest non-chronological book to follow. Were they over the age of 40? My teacher in high school patronized me by saying that One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest was going to be "too difficult" to write an essay on and reluctantly let me.
This bullshit deserves to be fucking 404-ed, and fuck you for coming to this board.
You're asking a question about a book you're not even 1/3 of the way through. Jesus fucking Christ. I don't care if it's even brought up later or not. The possibility that it could be brought up later and you're asking a question before you fucking read it proves you are honest to God retarded.
You're like the dipshit friend you never take to the movies or a girlfriend who you refuse to watch movies at home with because she's always asking bullshit ass questions. Movies you've never even seen. Like, "How the fuck do I know, bitch? I've never fucking seen it either!"
God fucking damn it. Then you have the gall to be pissed no one was answering your question right away. Fucking piece of shit. Get the fuck out.
Take a chill pill bruv, or you might end up raging yourself to death like Sloane.
book clubs read the book at the same rate, either you're all at one point or you've all finished it
lit isn't a book club, no one is at the same place you are, and asking questions because you potentially misread or didn't understand it (when you haven't even read half the book) is not defensible
if you want to discuss it or have a thread for discussion, finish the book
it's like 200 pages or something, it's really not that hard
I wondered the same thing when I read this for the first time recently. I still don't fully get it. My guess is this: Williams wrote this several decades after World War One, when it was looked back on as the pointless exercise in bloodshed that it was (that's not to say there weren't important interests being asserted by various belligerents, but on the whole, it doesn't have the sense of moral imperative or even coherent theme that World War II or the American Civil War had). So this was a way to show a sensitive, thoughtful, and above all civilized man shocked and disgusted to see the civilized world rush to destroy itself. I think this plays into Williams' theme of the university as the sanctuary, or perhaps the city on the hill. When Sloane saw the mindless rush to war not just in the community at large (indeed seemingly the whole world) but on the campus itself, it must have felt like the barbarians had stormed the gates. And then when the war ended, the attitude was celebratory when it should have been somber, and seemingly eager for another bloody, pointless war. And this too infected the university, at which point Sloane lost faith in what was left of civilization.