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What I can i read to find out more about the intersectionality between marxism and feminism?
Is there any?
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>wikipedia
>the sticky
>fuck off, you're not making a good threat and can't add anything to any discussion
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google marxist feminism, proletarian feminism, etc.
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Well, intersectionality refers to "intersections" among groups, such as women, gender and sexual minorities, the working class, and various racialized peoples. Common struggle and all that.

But if you're asking about the relationship between Marxist thought to Feminist thought it's pretty readily apparent. IIRC there's a whole section in the communist manifesto regarding women's lib.
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>>7555944
>I haven't read the capital
>I think the pamflet has intelectual value
>I want to start a discussion where I can't add anything of value
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>>7555937
>>7555938
>>7555954
NO, FUCK YOU I'M SHITTING UP THE BOARD ANYWAY

Feminism is clearly breaking apart the spirit of the class, distracting people with minor victories and making them care for people of high middle class more than the ones in need., They care for treatment in the work place and equal pay when millions of americans can barely put food on their table if at all. Even worse in a global scale, but they make fund raisers and awareness for the plight of the rich women instead of those who can't afford to live.
FUCK YOU ALL I'M NOT SHUTTING UP JUST BECAUSE I'M CONJURING /POL/
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who /leftypol/ here?
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>>7556375
legit marxist detected

I bet you wear boots and spit on people
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>>7556375
How do you reconcile the fact Marxism and Feminism are mutually exclusive as identity politics has replaced class politics?
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>>7555918
'find out more' implies you already have a basis. What have you already read?

Someone who's 'canonical' is Barbara Ehrenreich, even if she's very American in her socialism (serves the Democratic Socialists of America Party, which literally frequently endorses Democratic presidential candidates, plus she's just a journalist and she seems to focus on reform through labor unions).

If you've already read the canon and are looking for more 'obscure' recommendations, a personal favorite of mine is Ulrike Meinhof. She was also a journalist but was killed before the age of the internet destroyed that field, and she had guts even for a journalist of that era to put her money where her mouth was.

If you want someone contemporary/part of the 'new wave', Marie Calloway attempted to be a figure of that intersection. Here's a post from her Tumblr featuring Ehrenreich writing about the incompleteness of feminism without socialism: mariecalloway.tumblr.com/post/87809639266/barbara-ehrenreich-what-is-socialist-feminism

If you look at the other posts from her Tumblr around that timeframe, there's a lot of other stuff about Marxism and feminism that you may find worth pursuing in greater detail. After that phase or whatever Calloway decided to focus on sex workers, at least in her Tumblr posts. Maybe she sees that as the greatest contemporary concern for an intersectional Marxist-feminist.
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>>7556486
>>7556486
a man can dream

>>7556530
that's just a thing going on right now in some parts of the globe. in many places feminism has recognized the bigger picture (latin america) or there is no kind of left (southeast asia). Among certain people, like the khurds, feminism and marxism go hand in hand with no issues.

the real problem is american feminism.
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>>7556556
You are not making any sense, Woman. What is the bigger picture?
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>>7556568
what I said in my previous post. that's how a conversation works, you follow up statements and expand your arguments in a back and forth.
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They are completely mutually exclusive since feminism is a capitalist ploy to corporately enslave females and drive down wages dramatically. The only way feminism can be utilized from a Marxist perspective is as a means of accelerating the collapse of capitalism through social decay.
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>>7555918
Read marxist women. For instance Rosa Luxembourg and Hellen Keller. And here's a board with different Marxist writers and links to their work discussing feminism, as well as some essays about the female liberation movement. Read some Emma Goldman if you want more than just the Marxist perspective.

https://www.marxists.org/subject/women/
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>>7556530
>>7556606
oy vey
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>>7556632
To tell you the truth I'm not a feminist or a marxist I'm just intelligent enough to know they aren't compatible
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>>7556606
finally someone with sense who sees that every feminist victory is to the advantage of the burgercheese.
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Almost 20 posts and no insecure redditors calling us redditors. Now all we need is my beautiful muse Butterfly to come back and /lit/ will be whole again. <3

>>7556556
>Among certain people, like the khurds, feminism and marxism go hand in hand with no issues. the real problem is american feminism.
This is a good point. Also is it really true SEAsia has no real left? I'm not super well educated in this area.
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>>7557367
>>>/tumblr/
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>>7557367
Oh fuck. What ever happened to butterfly? Did anyone ever ID them? I used to see them post on /gif/ all the time -- When DFW wasn't doing it for me(1)

(1)sexually
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>not being Marxist-Leninist-Feminist-Environmentalist
>being /lit/-tier
pick one
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Women will be used only for breeding purposes after the revolution. When you aren't giving us children you will be in chains.
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>>7557404
Back to reddit with you, white boy. We don't need evil scum here like you people.
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>>7556460
>>7556460

/leftpol/ here.

>>7556375

Completely agree, you beat me to it. Feminism is an identity politics movement and has no place in the socialist movement. Issues of inequality can largely be solved through economics and many propagators of feminism are actually members of the bourgeois class.

Picture related.
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>>7557415
Thank you. More often than not the redditors on 4chan are the ones being super edgy. It's still fun for them because they're 15, (if not physically at least mentally)
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>>7557438
>tfw you just found out about /leftpol/ and read that >pic related
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>>7557438
If the bourgeoisie are pretty much by definition opposed to revolution then how come so many Marxist intellectuals are middle or upper class?

Legitimately curious.
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>>7557438
Go back to reddit
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>>7557764
intellectuals aren't revolutionaries. they have no stake in the political game beyond how it impacts their comfort. it's more about being intellectually right than it is about improving things for the proletariat.
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