So, thanks to some of you I read the book in the pic and it is some of the best prose I have ever read. Any other books with such great prose? Don't say Pynchon. I already tried V. and, despite some really fun parts, it wasn't my cup of tea.
The Opposing Shore has literally 10/10 prose, even in translation
Finally someone else talks about this fucking book. I read it in French so I can't vouch for the translation but it's my favorite novel and the prose is indeed incredible. Criminally underrated, not even Frenchfags care about it.
Thats cool that you read it in French, I can only read well in English but one of the reviews said the English translation is really accurate and captures the same feel so hopefully I didn't miss out too much.
That prose was like swimming through a warm pool of scented water while wearing a bathing suit made of velvet holy shit man. I was really impressed. There were a lot of pretty obscure words as well even for someone with a large vocabulary, I found that I had to pull out a dictionary every now and then. I don't know if that was just the translation or if that was also the case in French.
I haven't read any of his other works, I've read that The Opposing Shore is considered his best but even if his others aren't as good I'm probably gonna check them out because I really liked it.
Not even OP but thinking Pynchon is lacking in the prose doesn't mean you are plebbish or unsophisticated. Pynchon is a great author but his strength is not in his prose. Pynchon is great for his funny jokes and puns, his encyclopedic range of subjects he references, his vignettes and the great conversations his characters have, among other things. But still at times his prose can be dry, disjointed and clumsy.
t. a Pynchon fan
I have read Inherent Vice, Against the Day, and V. I liked some of his stuff, but other pages I found boring. I got nothing against the guy: he made me laugh a few times and the some of the ideas were cool.
The fact that I am considered a "fag" for simply stating that the guy is not to my liking pisses me off, though.
OP here. I already read Middle C as well. It was amazing, but it dragged on a little, unlike The Tunnel here. Now I wanna try and get Omensetter's Luck, but sadly it is not available for Kindle, which means I have to order it just like this one.
Ive read about 1/3 of all of his books and found them boring and contemptuous of the reader. I finished Bleeding Edge and I thought it was subpar. Infinite Jest is highly overrated too.
2666 is not.
Yes, that why I said "practically". It means, give or take. BTW, Lispector is from Brazil. As weird as it sounds, that is really not included in Latin American studies. So no Joao Guimaraes Rosa either. Sorry.
And BTW, if you mean Isabel Allende, she's the Latin American version of Danielle Steel, so please.
is it true that Gass wrote the following:
>The true alchemists do not change lead into gold; they change the world into words.
because if so he's terrible.
i always knew fat people were bad writers (in the same way that women are) and on buying into your stupid gassposting i was only confirmed in my theory
anyway, don't you see how perfect it is that his fucking name is Gass? Gass.
that is so funny to me
and i'll be patiently awaiting the inevitable, fallacious appeal to my refusal to post my own writing as proof that Gass (Gass lol) is a superb writer
hey man i'm sorry. i actually read through a lot of Gass quotes and they were mostly good except for the one i picked to make fun of him with.
i was actually awestruck by his thing about colors, if you dont know what i'm talking about it's one of the first on the goodreads quotes page for Gass.
i don't know whether i'm bored or just wanted some attention, but anyway sorry for being rude
I would add Borges, Manuel Mujica Lainez and Oracio Quiroga. I really don't feel Sabato and Bioy Casares should be in the same boat, their work is much more hit and miss.
>Juno is too new for a canon
seconding this, if it were for me I would add Abelardo Castillo but he's still alive so let's wait to see if he improves even more in his last years or ruins everything.
I understand, but Sabato's Túnel is emblematic. As well as Sobre Héroes y Tumbas.
Certainly Rulfo is canon, yet he only published El llano en llamas and Pedro Páramo, so quantity of work doesn't count. I would give my life to write something like Pedro Páramo.
everyone you like literally traces their roots back to William Gaddis (the greatest post WWII American author)
I started with Carpenter's Gothic and just finished Agape Agape last night, both being 9-10/10. The Recognitions is his most acclaimed, but i've yet to touch it. Saving the best for last.
I really dislike El Túnel and can't find the value everyone sees in it. Sobre Heroes y Tumbas is a good work, I won't deny that. Overall I just feel he's a decent writer who gets too much press. It's besides quantity, of course, but if you're gonna canonize an author instead of a particular work you should consider his general overall score.
Another one that wasn't mentioned is Caicero, he neither has too much work but what he has is glorious and has some recognition around latin america.
I understand. I really like El Túnel, though. But it's okay.
Andrés Caicedo? Read some of his books, I didn't think it was much a big of a deal. I have seen he gets tons of recognition, I just don't see why. Maybe I just don't get it.
When I read his novel (he has only one, right?) I felt he was doing some next level shit, not only for his time. I think the main issue people find in him is that he was doing a completely localized story, when you read Borges or Cortazar you get people trying to be as european as possible, even when Mujica was writing in the style of the 1800's he's still clearly a well educated man playing a role. Que viva la músca is incredibly in character without being the kind of thing a 14 y/o girl would write, you can't tell the exact way he's making her be an efficient narrative character but the story has a working structure and none of the pitfalls the character should make. It could easily end up being like a latin palahniuck, and it avoids that so graciously.
Yeah? I read Angelitos empantanados (If I remember correctly those are short stories), and it didn't do much for me. I also have the biography Alberto Fuguet wrote lying around somewehere.
with the exception of Gass, Faulkner and maybe a handful of others he's one of the only authors whose sentences I can't blow through in a matter of seconds.
Legitimately slows my reading comprehension way the fuck down and takes me forever to finish his books (I'm sure without a doubt I could finish the entire HP series before I could finish W&M)
All his sentences have advanced syntax shit is fuckin' weird
ooh i haven't read the tunnel yet but it's on my shelf. i read omensetter's luck twice, it's one of the best books i've ever read. didn't care much for cartesian sonata, tho.
fav passage from omensetter:
"Furber's body was a box he lived in; his arms and legs propelled and fended for him like a cripple's crutches and a blind man's cane; while Omensetter's hands, for instance, had the same expression as his face; held out his nature to you like an offering of fruit; and added themselves to what they touched, enlarging them, as rivers meet and magnify their streams."
Different guy but Cannonball took me way longer than expected. It was nice and short so I took it on an airplane. Finished it like a month later with very mixed feelings. There's definitely some good stuff in there, and I'm glad I read it, but the style really makes it a slog at times.
just recently released what is now considered his masterpiece, Dying Grass