Looking for something new and interesting. Maybe relatable.
this is true. i get that some trans people use the word, but to me it's crude and has negative connotations. even "transsexual" makes me feel weird. so glad we have transgender umbrell term.
also hi friends. i'm OP and intend to be your new transgender queen.
as it tends to happen with most people, the things that arouse you in bed aren't too cool out of it.
i'd guess that in this kind of cases "little" is actually a nice thing to say, besides the words surrounding it.
are you trying to gather hate or play some kind of character?
please fuck off in any case
I'm not a trap because I'm on hormones. Traps are very feminine crossdressing boys, whereas I'm a transsexual girl.
Do you want to talk about this stuff for real? Say something worth responding to with sincere conversation and you might just find yourself balls deep in stimulating discussion.
Why would it be helpful? It's a study assessing how dissatisfied LGBT people are with the mental health industry. Trans people always have trouble with medical shit.
I had a really awkward experience with a doctor wanting to give me a pelvic exam when I thought it was 100% obvious I lacked a vagina. Having to explain to your doctor about your penis is not fun.
/lit/ has been lucky to not have many of these
How new can you be? /lit/ has a long and difficult history of tripfags. From the iconic brownbear who was stalked by girls who were hot but not as much as his gf to Deep&Edgy destroying every discussion with his absolute knowledge of Heidegger. We even were the ones that got Quentin to stop posting.
The /lit/ irc channel was the ground for so much trippfagotry that you wouldn't believe.
Every board has tripfag drama, I suppose, but just take a gander at any of the more generic, heavily trafficked hobby boards and you'll see names and codes leaping out at you left and right, whereas I can't even name more than two or three that post here regularly anymore.
Reminder: Transsexuality is a disgusting disease that goes against human nature. The cure is not surgery, the cure is not crossdressing, the cure will never be developed because it would be politically incorrect to even try to find a way to help these people without "changing" their gender. The acceptance of transsexuality leads to corrupted young minds and a degradation of societal morals.
You do realize that the actual scientific method has been applied to this problem, and it has been determined that hormonal transition has a far greater success rate at reducing depression and suicide rates in transgender youth than any form of denialist therapy ever developed has, right?
There's no such thing as transgenderism, only the mentally unstable who think they can change what they are. Back to tumblr, queerbait. If you're gay just say you're gay. That actually makes sense. Just done be a fag about it. You can suck a guys cock and not have to start cutting hair
I found many disappointed because they go in expecting revolutionary story about gender or some shit. its a dry story about 2 friends on the run (I would call it comfy instead of dry)
well I just want you to go in with realistic expectations and a focus on the right thing, I have read too many reviews that are basically "I heard this thing was quadruped so I bought this cat but it does not bark, 0/10 dnf"
Yeah and I definitely appreciate you explaining about it a little. Usually I try as best I can to start a book without any preconceived ideas about it. You never really know what you're getting into until it's done and over with :)
No, but I can smell the newfag wafting off of your trip. Based on this particular aroma I can tell you're likely born in the 90's and werent on 4chan before 2010.
Your trip is shit and you probably named yourself. At least butterfly was original in her spelling and "gasbro" earned his. You're out of your league, junior. Go back to Reddit or 9gag or wherever you heard about this place from
me too but few times I reached the end of the book and had some complaints only to go "well what did you expect" when you pick up a harlequin novel or a book for kids you should not expect a master work but since non of my books have psychical copies its sometimes hard to figure out what level book I picked up(recently happened to me when reading The School for Good and Evil)The Left Hand of Darkness is not as convoluted but I got it in a pack of books, did not what it was about or that it was famous so my experience was a lot different from people who drawn in by it being in top books lists. anyways I hope you have a comfy read
I'm not the person you're responding to, but being born in the 1990s doesn't necessarily mean anything. A person born in 1991 will be 25 years old this year, and could potentially have been on 4chan since it was founded, if they were underage b& when they first arrived.
Boy, you sure know a lot about science! You must be a scientist of great renown in your field! How do you hold all those Nobel prizes, mate?
Colton Meier, Stacey; Fitzgerald, Kara; alii. "The Effects of Hormonal Gender Affirmation Treatment on Mental Health in Female-to-Male Transsexuals", 2011.
>Overall findings provide clear evidence that HRT is associated with improved mental health outcomes in female-to-male transsexuals.
Newfield, Emily; Hart, Stacey; alii. "Female-to-male transgender quality of life", 2006.
>FTM transgender participants who received testosterone (67%) reported statistically significant higher quality of life scores (p<0.01) than those who had not received hormone therapy.
>Providing this community with the hormonal care they request is associated with improved quality of life.
Murad, Mohammad; Elamin, Mohamed; alii. "Hormonal therapy and sex reassignment: a systematic review and meta-analysis of quality of life and psychosocial outcomes", 2009.
>Pooling across studies shows that after sex reassignment, 80% of individuals with GID reported significant improvement in gender dysphoria; 78% reported significant improvement in psychological symptoms; 80% reported significant improvement in quality of life; and 72% reported significant improvement in sexual function.
Ainsworth, Tiffiny; Spiegel, Jeffrey. "Quality of life of individuals with and without facial feminization surgery or gender reassignment surgery", 2010.
>Mental health-related quality of life was statistically diminished (P < 0.05) in transgendered women without surgical intervention compared to the general female population and transwomen who had gender reassignment surgery (GRS), facial feminization surgery (FFS), or both.
Gorin-Lazard, Audrey; Baumstarck, Karine; alii. "Is Hormonal Therapy Associated with Better Quality of Life in Transsexuals? A Cross-Sectional Study", 2011.
>Hormonal therapy was significantly associated with a higher QoL….
>The present study suggests a positive effect of hormone therapy on transsexuals' QoL after accounting for confounding factors.
Woops. I think my science accidentally got in the way of your science. My bad.
So viruses and bacteria should be allowed to roam free as well. Discontinue the production of penicillin along with all other meds. That's meddling with nature! Treating diseases is corruption!
Transsexuality causes instability in society. It's a mental health issue, not a virus. If your cure causes society to become unstable and goes against everything humanity stands for, your cure is bad. Research should be done on a cure that can keep them their own gender, but that won't happen because kf the state of identity politics and political correctness.
See, I have no stock in this debate myself, but you're talking all scientifically, or trying to, and then you're moving onto "it goes against everything humanity stands for". Your dislike of trans stuff seems to be emotive first, which is fine, I don't like it either. But, you know, admit it. This dicking about with pseudoscience to justify your personal tastes is just embarrassing.
it's not an insult. someone posted tolerable scientific research and his answer was saying that their sources, the only kind they can get in the topic, aren't goog enough. while that's something someone can do, he proceeded to imply that his values, based on his own personal feelings, are more important that the variety of personal feelings used in the study.
It was pretty much like saying "my tummy doesn't hurt, no ones tummy can hurt"
thank fucking god twiggy is gone. Holy shit what a terrible tripfag. I miss butters and wish oxford girl would tripfag so i could masturbate sadly as I think about her life in the city of spires and my life in the dirt.
Well, you can't say that just because it's the only evidence they have, it can't be unreliable. He's right. Personal account can't be trusted 100%. Of course they'll say they feel better. Either way, the problem with it for me is more to do with philosophy/principle. It also annoys me that proper research on a cure won't be funded because of political correctness and the general opinion that the current "cure" is good enough. The cure for obsessive pedophilia is not fucking children. Maybe that's a bad analogy, but that's the way I see it.
Thanks for the constructive reply. We are not designed to change genders. It permanently fucks us up. You can't go back. The very essence of reproduction is challenged. Children who see this, people who see this, it doesn't sit right with them. Yes, human nature. Our physical nature. There's a reason people's first reaction to transsexualism is disgust. Besides, transsexuals aren't truly the other gender. I genuinely feel bad for them, but a "chick with a dick" is really a guy with tits. You will never change the Y chromosome.
Look, if there could be a cure for that kind of thing there would be a cure for pedophilia, or at least a single antidepressant that works on everybody. We can't chemically fix the brain, but we can make people be happier. Why would you be against making people you'll never meet happy? This isn0t south park, no one is gonna get mad if you said some famous tranny isn't a hero. If peopleget so obsessed over making some horrible transwoman a hero is because they know the world is full of people who would automatically hate on them. If no one cared there would be no issue, because transpeople aren't forcing you to do shit.
I hope that she at least is painting more or doing something with her life. I want to believe that we can escape this place.
If a discussion has two present arguments and you answer against one of them you are tacitly defending the other. If you ahd other intentions you should had made your personal argument pressent.
Don't take this as an avtual point, as I'm not going to go hunting rn, but I believe there was a discontinued research project which actually made progress in removing the desire to change genders. And no, pedophilia and transsexuality are very different. Pedophilia is a fetish, a sexual preference. Transsexuality is something wholly different. Many transsexuals don't change their sexual preferences after they "change" their genders. We don't know if we can fix it because we've never tried. My problems with transsexuals:
I don't want to see it paraded around (extends to gay pride and shit)
I don't want them using the same washrooms/lockers/showers as the opposite of their true gender
I don't want my kids to be exposed to this and see it as okay; the less it is accepted in society, the better: this reduces the risk that people will switch genders during a phase/think thwy are the other gender but really aren't (edgy teens, that girl who grew out of it and
caused a Tumblr riot)
I don't want MY FUCKING TAXES to pay for transgender surgery
People say it's okay when it isn't. It's a disease, and it's accepted like it's something ordinary. People should pity transgender people, not celebrate them
Prolly more but Idk.
It's not about mental health, how you feel, or actually being happy with yourself, that's irrelevant to the topic at hand, what i was talking about was about actually becoming a woman, which no tranny has, so don't expect me to play along with them.
Innocent people are getting hurt by drug companies who aim to make a lot of money off of this whole movement.
Confused, depressed people should be protected from greedy doctors whose aim is to physically maim them. Children are being mutilated by this movement. Aside from my own self interest don't you think I should be against this simply because of the appalling human toll?
That wasn't me, you can see my reply here >>7547970
>but we can make people be happier
I wasn't talking about treating gender dysphoria, I was only talking about actually becoming a woman.
Personally the only treatment I would accept for my dysphoria would be a way that lets me become a 100% full biological woman, on principle of not wanting a quick fix, but we'll probably not see that in our lifetime.
Your biggest problem is that you don't read. That means the other people here who don't read (99% of /lit/) won't be impressed by even the tiny amount that you do read, which is not to say that you read at all; you don't.
Please don't bother responding with more lies. It's pathetic.
John Irving doing what he's always doing, exploring a character throughout decades of his life. Starts with a young confused boy who has to come to terms with being bisexual (in a time when being gay wasn't illegal anymore but highly frowned upon) and his romantic and sexual experiences all throughout puberty and adulthood. Definitely worth a read.
Lies? I am taking the weights class and I'm terrified! But will do it anyway. Another truth is that I love preparing healthy foods from scratch. I even READ pop nutrition propaganda like Wheat Belly.
So you know all about my biggest problem; what's yours??
are you able to quantify this dire threat to society, and express it in rational terms? because from where i'm sitting it simply looks like you're making wild and baseless assumptions in an effort to look cool in front of your edgy 4chan pals.
>Implying any board does whatever the board is about
>implying /a/ actually watches anime
>implying /vr/ plays retro games at all
>implying /ck/ can cook
>implying /tg/ can scrounge up enough friends to role play
>implying /lit/ is for books and not /pol/ without hard right and dank memes, for distinguished and intellectual anons who's ability to discuss unrealistic ideology for threads at a time makes them feel superior to non /lit/fags
People have been doing hormone therapy since before societies had regirsters that could include that stuff. Estrogen supplements, until a decade ago, were still based on mare piss. There is a temple in India for people who are what we would call transgender, and they made very poor gender reasignment surgery for centuries.
The natural way of doing it is changing your body chemistry, the unnatural way is wanting to change your brain.
>Personally the only treatment I would accept for my dysphoria would be a way that lets me become a 100% full biological woman, on principle of not wanting a quick fix, but we'll probably not see that in our lifetime.
Well, I live my life as a man, it sucks and there are many days in which I really consider just killing myself. I live in a country where transitioning isn't really an option, even though the government let's you change your name and get hormones if you want people are pretty prone to treat you like shit and the police has legal right to put you in jail for being a man dressed as a woman in some places. The only job I could get is prostitution. I won't try to transition, but if someone chooses to do it in a place it makes them happy and sort of works more power to them. It was much harder 30 years ago, maybe it will be much easier in 30 more. It still needs people risking it.
Funny how I never even considered this one as a trans character. I read that one in Jr. High and it affected me deeply. To this day I think that book is a huge part of the reason I decided to actually give transition a chance. When I was at one of the lowest points of my life back then, this book gave me hope.
No idea why people consider it to be Heinlein's worst work. To me it was always among his best.
Physical fitness and overall health and wellness are important. And the recommendations made by the supposed experts in my country are unfortunately lacking :(
So yeah I read a variety of ideas concerning health and nutrition, and experiment with things to find what works for me. Btw I rated Wheat Belly 2/5. Author is a pompous asshole and makes too many unfounded claims and unsupported extrapolations, which overshadows any truth the book express sincerely.
>not reading the varying opinions of medical doctors to make better-informed decisions in daily life
non of that is /lit/ related. Go talk it out in /fit/ and /ck/. If you don't want people to hate you try not to be part of the problem, if you actively make a decent thread shittier you are being a shitposter no matter your intentions.
At the very least sage when off topic so the page zero is a bit more literary.
That's horrible :(
Where do you live, if you don't mind me asking? Is there any hope of emigrating away? Please don't kill yourself. There is always hope, and if you value your personal safety over transitioning then you've made a courageous and decision. Facing the dysphoria like that to stay alive must be so hard :(
I don't care that much, life has bigger problems in general. I feel that transitioning wouldn't be that different from neet guys getting fit, if you want to feel okay with your life it's better to achieve things than to look like you want.
Also, sage when offtopic. This isn't /lgbt/
Honestly I'm not even sure how to save and don't really care to learn. Seems like saging is usually passive aggressive way to express nerd rage, similar to downvoting which I despise. And bumping gives more chances of book suggestions with the added bonus of being completely harmless.
I'm trying to decide now which of these to read first. The Gore Vidal looks like it may be the most relevant, but I'm kind of looking ti be entertained, too. Dreams of Amputation?
I get that you're a newfag. It's a /lit/ tradition to put sage in the options part to keep the page zero with threads with active book discussion. It's not passive agresive, it's a way to keep the board nice and being able to go off topic without bothering people who don't come here for that. Back when the board was young 60% of the posts had that blue tone of saged, if there was something related to the thread to say it got up again. It's a slow board so it takes at least half a day for a thread to go away if not several days.
If you're just looking for a good book to start with the recs here, the Leguin one is a solid book by itself and great reading for winter.
>Honestly I'm not even sure how to save and don't really care to learn. Seems like saging is usually passive aggressive way to express nerd rage, similar to downvoting which I despise.
You fucking newfaggot piece of shit please ky
Sage is not a downvote, fuck off back to reddit
it would be foolish to expect the same treatment as an average woman if you're trans, but being actively ostracized and unable to even find lawful employment is very extreme. even in developed countries people are discriminated against when it comes to housing, employment, etc. and this is unjust and wrong.