What's the novel with the weirdest plot?
The Castle, but "weird" is a shit, pleb word
the bible. a zombie saves us all from eternal suffering if we accept him into our heart
>>9607862
Naked Lunch's plot is pretty strange, about conspiracies and hallucinogenic body horror and whatever the hell Benway was up too.
Also, don't fall to the Bizarro Fiction meme, the writers are pure hacks and they try to hide it behind an air of strangeness.
For me
2016 : 53 books
2017 : 20 books so far so good
>>9607851
Sorry the real question is How many books do you read a year?
I've read 26 this year, albeit only 2 have been over 400 pages.
Last year I probably read 70ish so I'm not I a good pace. I got a new job so I don't have as much time to read.
I've read three books. Am I cool?
Does being lonely or sexless make people better writers or does it hamper them?
Has there ever been a writer who accurately portrays the feelings of sheer rejection by society?
>>9607709
>being unliked in your local area's small community bubble means you are rejected by society as a whole and not just the cunts around you
nice try
>>9607709
try reading notes from underground.
in response to your question about the author's sexual habits or loneliness, it just depends. i think isolation in some way is certainly required, but it depends on the author and how they synthesize their art. er, how they make their work. synthesize their art sounds tortured as fuck.
>>9607709
>Thinks not banging QTs on the reg is tantamount to being elephant man.
You should kill yourself. If you want to explore feelings of alienation beforehand check out some Kafka, I guess. It's not hard to find a protagonist that feels cast aside by society and you'd know that if you read but of course this is /lit/.
Why Is genre fiction looked down upon?
Because most of it isn't good at all doesn't even try to be.
>>9607701
the more appropriate question is why does it matter to you so much? there are one of two ways with dealing with this. either you try to legitimize genre fiction in some crusade to make yourself feel better about what you're reading, or you shrug and just read whatever the fuck you want to read.
quite a few people who shit on genre fiction just want the people who read it to challenge themselves because they know how pleasant it can be with a quality book. the rest of them use literature as a badge, and it doesn't matter what they think anyway.
>>9607714
Thank you for the reply. To be honest, I actually read almost all non-fiction, I was just curious.
Translated Text
>I don't think of all the misery, but of the beauty that still remains.
Original Text
>All this war is yuck! :( There's still some pretty flowers.
>be an optimist
>die
When will they learn?
>>9607315
wow that's pretty deep for an 11 year old girl, no wonder she invented the ballpoint pen
I don't like getting caught up in the Holocaust conspiracy drama argument, but it deserves to be said that Anne Frank's Diary being redacted and turned into an Ethnic Apologist propaganda piece is an affront to human dignity
Suppose you want to publish your stuff and be a famous author. How would you proceed? Start with the assumption that your writings are just good enough for people to like them, and you have plenty of material. Would you start a blog or what?
Help me out on this one if you can.
PD:
>Why do you want to publish? Thats dumb, etc.
I have this impossible dream of living just from my writings and i think ill start to fight for it even if i fail.
start by posting most of it in /lit/ critique threads. there, in this fiery crucible of creativity we call 4chan, you will learn humility and respect, courage and deference. when you are finally ready, you will already know who you are. and so will we.
it depends on what your goal is.
do you want to write for the sake of money? then you better start analozing current trends and how they develope, and then write something that hits the nail on the head at the right time. this night mean that you have to basically whore yourself out to please the masses.
do you want to write to be remembered as a great author?
then write something epic, something that takes a lot of edfort and work and that is thoroughly thought trough and that makes you proud, WHILST being readable and enjoyable.
do you want to write as some form of catharsis?
write whatever the fuck you want. you can try to get it pubslihed, but chances are slim.
in either way, i personally don't give a fuck if an author has a nice website, an up do date blog and a lively fb page. i would never invest energy in such things and rather preserve it for writing. but that's because my goal isn't to get rich/whore myself out. i write the way i want to write. if it gets published one day, even better, but i won't bend over backeards for it. set your priorities and stick to them.
>>9607124
no, it just happens that i believe that most of the things i enjoy writing are pretty commercial anyways. Not vampire-love-story level of commercial but still good enough for people to like it.
But i dont know how to even start. Agents dont care at all about manuscripts if i dont have proof that my stuff can get fans, thats why i wonder about having a blog or an author page or so. I could also self publish but i feel my stuff is gonna drown in a sea of irrelevance if i dont have someone backing me up.
hmmmm
>>9607031
just reverse the order and its perfect
>>9607040
meme is a joke, not literal
>>9607051
sometimes it is, sometims it's ironic
Is Borges difficult to read?
>>9606866
Only Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius. His first story of Ficciones.
Well most of his stories can be read in something like 15 minutes, so why not just find out.
>>9606916
I'm poor and his collected fictions is ~$12
How do I write a good suicide note?
>>9606618
Notes are for fags
Killing yourself without giving a reason is much more dignified
Don't commit suicide senpai, killing yourself is not dignified.
>Post your favorite nostalgia-tier books.
(Don't bully others, we all liked something dumb at some point)
I remember having to wait for the Scholastic Book Fair catalog to come to grab pic related. Read all of them.
>That unique feeling of having to wait months at a time before you could order the next book in the series you were absorbed in.
Holy shit, I think I remember seeing that.
One of my books was the Avalon series.
As far as I remember, I was fascinated firstly, because I liked fantasy and magic, but also because I hated the main character. She was so fucking alien to me, I loved reading about her.
Apparently, it's getting a series soon? But I don't know about that.
the books i remember are
>in cold blood
>everything brett easton ellis
>tam the untamed
>hannibal
then puberty hit and i started reading chicklit
>everything marian keyes wrote
after that i had a huge murakami and irving phase, re-read the pigeon a few times.
then adulthood got to me and i stopped reading fiction. such is life.
>>9606502
Got it for cover art and sketches, but liked the story too.
Couldn't get more than the first two though. Hunted for the third book for the longest time.
Also, Garth Nix's keys to the kingdom series, a really lovely setting for fantasy
I heard somewhere (i think it was Zizek) that every nation has an 'unmentionable', an event or period in its history that is never talked about without immense shame. An obvious example is the holocaust with Germany. But what about America? We talk about slavery and Native American atrocities pretty openly, and there's nothing i know about that is known by everyone but mentioned by none besides those two things. What would our country's unmentionable be?
Also general history/historical fiction and tragedy thread
whatever said this meme doesn't know third world countries
we aren't ashamed of anything
>>9606481
Look closely at this image.
>>9606481
there are things in america we dont talk about, like endemic prison rape
but i dont know if there are specific events we avoid
>tfw tendency to practice my writing when messaging
please send help
>tfw a piece of literotica you wrote for a giantess site has been read 100,000+ times
>>9606445
just as you've caused eruptions, I've caused a fizzle.
>>9606434
messaging whom, dare i ask?
Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.
Ahi quanto a dir qual era è cosa dura
esta selva selvaggia e aspra e forte
che nel pensier rinova la paura!
Tant' è amara che poco è più morte;
ma per trattar del ben ch'i' vi trovai,
dirò de l'altre cose ch'i' v'ho scorte.
Io non so ben ridir com' i' v'intrai,
tant' era pien di sonno a quel punto
che la verace via abbandonai.
What if they are Spanish monolinguals, idiot
>>9606231
MFW retards who picked spanish instead of based french cannot comprehend this:
L'esprit
Éternelles Ondines,
Divisez l’eau fine.
Vénus, soeur de l’azur,
Émeus le flot pur.
Juifs errants de Norwège
Dites-moi la neige.
Anciens exilés chers
Dites-moi la mer.
Moi - Non, plus ces boissons pures,
Ces fleurs d’eau pour verres ;
Légendes ni figures
Ne me désaltèrent ;
Chansonnier, ta filleule
C’est ma soif si folle
Hydre intime, sans gueules
Qui mine et désole.
Rimbaud
>>9606241
>>9606254
you guys can't be serious
Is pic related good?
How good is it?
Make a better thread
>>9606192
The idea was stolen from Goncharov by Turgenev and Flaubert was the recipient of the pilfered goods. I for one boycott the works of Flaubert and those he inspired in deep respect for Goncharov.
>>9606203
What is the name of Gorbachov's work
Get in a mood and then make yourself a 10 minute time limit. Maybe make a playlist with about 10 minutes of song or set up an eggtimer or a virtual one at one of the many sites easily found on google. Don't look back, don't edit. Whatever comes out comes out.
Just take a deep breath and know that nothing that happens is of any consequence.
I'll start. Put ten minutes up on the clock.
Just feel misplaced now all the time. And not like I'm going to do those things I said I was going to at the beginning of the year. Watched Greg and his brother make money doing something I should have gone and done two years ago. Read another book with a story I thought I could have put together. Always behind. Dumb. Just dumb. Say to everyone I'm doing better. Not doing good enough. Watch these years roll by. Everytime saying going to do soomething more than I did the last time. Watch a dog running around Joe's shed. Think about how I want to trade places with the dog. Just want to run around a shed and feel like I don't have anything on my plate. Hate this feeling. Always feeling like I can do something else. Restless always. Snoring and waking up whoever I'm near when I sleep. Feeling like I can't sleep all the time. Can't do anything about it. Want to live in a log cabin sometimes. Don't even now why. Just want to live in the middle of nowhere and nobody will knock on your door and ask for money or anything. Don't want to be in the middle of nowhere though. Want a big town with a big bar where I can go and get drunk and talk with the stranges. I dont have to be me. I can be anybody I want.
Keep lying all the time and saaying I'm going to do things or that I'm doing thing but I'm not. Going off to this place. Saying I'm going for myself but I'm just going for deliveries. Going to this place or that place. Never just for fun. Just watching everything pass by. Just driving a car for no reason at all. Listening to all this stuff until I'm so sick of it I'm just listening to the road. Just looking at the same car accidents and watching to make sure I'm not going too fast. Don't have nough time to do anything. Everybody is a stranger. Dig out all the shit in my front yard and don't even get to look at it. Rains all the time. Have to cut the grass in the rain. All the time driving on nice days. Rather be out thowing a dog I don't have a frisbee. Have no life.
Drinking too much. Haven't seen a doctor in years. Can't afford to. Have to buy stupid fucking patio shit. Going to die and not able to bring my stupid fucking patio shit. Drinking whenever I feel like I have nothing better to do. Used to feel good. Want to be a dog now. Not healthy. Shower twice a day.
Heaping ridicule and praise god. Someone's got it in for me. I plan for things to go exactly so, and when they don't I can't remember how to act. I always end up wandering off, by myself. I soothe myself by thinking I'm just too good for everyone. The truth is not that. The truth is that other people make me uncomfortable, because I am a jealous man. I harbor spite for everyone, never bringing up what bothers me. The resentment grows and shows itself on my face. Just yesterday I went to a show at a cafe. Expecting to make new friends. Seeing all the crossdressers and degenerate cretins I walked out back. With hatred disgust and contempt. I stepped outside. Beefheart was playing and gave me a second of joy. I sat down and tried to write something, but it was horrible. I felt like the underground man, and it always feels like this. It always feels the same, and I go into reclusion. I walked to the park and saw an old homeless man. He said he knew me from when we were kids. He was out of his mind. I watched them smoke meth as I smoked a camel blue. They counted pocketfuls of pennies as I had 40bukcs in my pocket. They finally communed enough change to get some crystal and one of them was sent off to pick it up. There was arguement of why they couldn't all go, but trust eventually won out, and the young homeless guy was off. I told them to have a good smoke and left. As I was crossing University drive a young girl approached me and gave me a drawing. We walked towards a different cafe and realized it was closed. I started to feel stupid talking to them and left. I won't read any other post in this thread, and nobody will read mine. I'm an awful faggot and hate myself. And I hate everyone. I'm not only like this, but self aware and that just makes it worse. My writing is awful. Cue the anon that actually reads this greentexting that and saying yes, yes it is.
you ondt even know the kind of debt you have gotten up to now do you? you cant go on just getting to a kind of feeling where youre ok and forgetting that when you wake up youre going to still have all the same problems. Im not goin g to do it anymore you have to wake up.
every tim e you do something its like you add a little more to the amount you owe somebody else. you're not going to get away with it eventually. im not going to be there when the shit hits the fan. I dont have anything to saw to you i have my own problems.
you just want to use everybody. i have to keep telling myself every time you call me. i don't know why i even pick up anymore why i have to keep teloing you all the stupd things i always say. whats the poinit anymore we