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better than big sur

probably one of the best examples of stream-of-counsciousness writing, and has some genuinely entertaining moments.
He makes Dean Moriarty (Neal Cassady) into a really charismatic character, definitely the stronger protagonist of the novel.
it's also really interesting getting to know different sides of the other Beat writers

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>>9609775
>probably one of the best examples of stream-of-counsciousness writing,
>proust
>richardson
>joyce
>woolf
>faulkner
>lowry
>hesse

on the road is not even real stream of consciousness. stop misusing this term like my grade 12 english teacher did.

>>9608371
something something good slave and a bad master

>>9608371
It's good insofar as it limits self-censorship and allows you to get words on the page. Terrible for editing, though.

>>9608371
It isn't, but this board is full of insecure and impressionable teenagers who think it's cool.

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they're ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfQCgVnRqzw

I am not a burger so I don't think about them at all.

I guess they were more or less necessary. Maybe not those people in particular, but a movement of that kind was inevitable and they did have a big influence on later writers, there's really no saying where American culture and literature would be today if the Beat Generation hadn't existed.
That aside, I don't particularly enjoy any of the works associated with that movement. Some are alright, but they just aren't my cup of tea. It's more about the people than their works and I can appreciate that whole era in history for its influence on actual people more than for its inherent artistic value.

That you're a slow reader
>this pic again

>>9608179
Embrace my masculinity, Anon
*gestures suggestively*

>>9608179
who painted your walls?

holy......

peterson should appear on chapo trap house

Those podcasts are actually quite entertaining, and I don't even like podcasts in general. Also, they want Alex Jones on the podcast as well.

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>>9608125

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>>9608125
Agreed

>>9608125
No fair he has the nazis in his corner

That sounds pretty fucking intense. What kind of gang? Anyway lotsa good resources online. Check this out.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+treat+paranoid+delusions

>>9608077
Is this bait?

I have bad news for you, frogposter

I don't think he tried to offer a solution. He might've scoffed at the whole distinction.

I'm really not sure but I think facts for him are only propositions that correctly describe the states of affairs. He does later realize this definition is lacking and deals with it under language use and family resemblance.

Phenomenal world isn't a construction of language but we can only philosophize about it in language, and language affects how we experience it.

>>9608031
so language is the limit of our thoughts, which are pictures of facts expressed through logic?

>>9608038
to me, this sounds almost identical to transcendental ideology

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/104495239/

>>9607980
I like police related /tv/ but I don't know if Ted's story suits the genre. The fact that the FBI really had nothing on him until his Brother and Sister-In-Law recognized his writing and led them straight to him kind of undermines the police narrative. Of course his ideology was interesting but I'd bet an eyeball this show won't mention Jacques Ellul. As a person he was also an interesting case but it looks like they aren't going too deep there, which I can't hold against them, considering how weird and depressing his life story is.

>>9607980
Ted probably hates it

Tristram Shandy
At Swim Two Birds
Probably Calvino and Borges
The Book of Intrusions
Probably Joyce (Finnegans Wake)
Probably something by that prick Perec

most recently "The Seventh Function of Language", by Binet. Extremely good.

>>9607945
Binet with his butthurt novel HHhH

>muh Heydrich

saoirse is a qt (:

>>9607791
Join the rest of the world.

>>9607791
what pottery have you read

I'm stupid and I don't really care, but I think because I'm stupid I have to think about it more, I think about it stupidly so I'm probably wrong more often too, but I figure if any one smart actually reads what I say than they'll figure out, because they're smart, what I really meant to say. So that always makes me laugh, but when I think about what it means to develop free will as an individual going from a fetus or whatever to what I am now the best thing I have is Catcher in the Rye, I'm illiterate as fuck but I'm putting it forward because I want to be torn down in a way. So I can see the mountain for what it is. But Holden, he doesn't really give a shit in the end, he figures out what's wrong with him all the time but he's so obsessed with others he forgets to actually apply any of it and so he constantly does what he wants. Which is ironic because all he does is worry about what he could be doing instead. To me at least, that's the closest thing to free will for me. With or without a god, there isn't any and what you're left with is what you make for yourself by doing what you want, god or godless.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/incompatibilism-theories/

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/incompatibilism-arguments/

The future is a field of potential. Conceptualize this as a multitide of semi-open or semi-closed doors.

Free will is the ability to choose from one of these doors and transform into your future you.

Are all the doors open (unlimited free will)? No.
Are all the door closed? No.
Are some doors harder or easier to go through? Yes.
Are these doors causally linked to your future, past and present? Yes because everybody comes from a different set of preconditions and we thus see the future differently.

That's how I see it. I accept that there is causality between the future and the past, yet keep the ability to make some choices.

Occam's Razor (TM)

>>9607694
It was invented in Western Virginia.

>>9607694
>>>reddir

It's just the creative outlet I'm best at and am most practised at because of relentless shitposting.

It's pretty much impossible to do anything of note creatively. Maybe, if I'm lucky, some of my ideas will get absorbed into the literary canon even if my name doesn't.

>>9607538
oh so that explains rhe sound and the fury and the narration of a retard. that faulkner guy was pretty clever, but all on a single shakespeare line?

>>9607538
I write because I want to.

>>9607176

I'd say start with "how to read literature like a professor", which is extremely basic but is a quick read and gets you thinking about analyzing books, then read the /lit/ charts.

Go to the library.

>>9607176
Shitpost on /lit/.