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Everything from Eugenides, everything from Franzen

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seriously, every other culture board has shed its middlebrow idols; we need to do the same

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>>9616410
Probably Franzen too.

>>9616314
i found it difficult to digest because i'm a pansy, at the time i was repulsed by some of the events that took place, however, in retrospect, it's one of the better books i've ever read. the ideas and scenes grow on you. seep in, as it were.

>>9616332
Sounds great to me. I enjoy works like that. Some of my favorite works I have found that I hated until they sat with me for awhile and I could reflect upon them.

>>9616314

he's a wanna-be joyce but more disjointed and boring.

DFW doesn't even compare to either.

>>9616290
Of course it's normal to forget stuff but I find once you start brushing up on it it comes back quite easily.

I always thought the "start with the Greeks" meant more, "Find a Greek your passionate about and read him for life, while also reading everything else that interests you."

>>9616290
you should've never stopped reading the greeks

>>9616357

Okay, great. Well you see here is the problem. I am reading Moby Dick, and when I read a line that makes an Aristotle reference, or references the Medes or something Herodotus said, I'm in that terrible tip-of-my-tongue position.

I believe my memory is simply failing and it makes me so frustrated. But I do not want to go through the texts again.

Maybe you could recommend some surveys or anthologies you've enjoyed?

>>9616287
I think this makes me want to kill myself and write cynical essays about people like you

>>9616287
Where will you get all the time?

Don't give up anon, and don't listen to doubters.

Recently had a sort of mid-life crisis. My reading/writing was lacking because I got a new job at a big law firm and am a lawfag every day. But I realized that I still had time, still had hours.

So I created a routine. I read non-fiction on my kindle on the train (10-20 pages). I read another batch of pages at lunch.

I come home and read prose or poetry while eating my dinner (20-40 pages). I drink some wine (8-10 more pages).

Then I spend the rest of the evening writing. I complete 1,000 to 1,500 words a night, on average.

This routine has completely reinvigorated me. When I was using work and "muh free time" excuses I was highly depressed and hopeless. I spent more time worrying about my free time than actually doing anything with it.

Your routine is great. You're great. I am proud of you. Let's do this.

I don't read books, I am books.

I've been cucked by materialism.
Also I like re-reading books and I'm constantly sperging out and flipping for a random sentence in a random books. Also I get an almost sexual pleasure knowing that I almost always know exactly where a book is no matter where I fucking hid it or how much I don't give a shit about a book. Yeah baby. Find that green helvetica text next to that blue and red striped spine. Oh honey, you do bad organization so well!

>>9616239
Those pants would've been better if the two guys had ancient greek garb.

>>9616221
>nonfiction

im not a brainlet senpai.

>>9616221
bumper

Bumperino
I'd be very grateful if someone recommends somethiin on Psychology

I slap his ass.

>>9616127
Let him. I'd let Marcel cuck me.

>>9616127

Slap his ass, then bend him over and fuck him until he begs me to stop, then start a long lasting relationship where at the end I disappear with another man leaving him heartbroken to the point of writing an extremely long, powerful novel that will make him - and me as a consequence - forever immortal, but leaving him forever with the aftertaste of never having completely possess me, of never having really completely participated in life, of never having really lived, and forcing him to die with the regret of never being truly loved by me, lonely and sad despite his literary achievements, whispering my name.

>>9616011
By what logic? De-evolution?

Hey, I just started reading this today.
These references are nuts. Who the fuck knows what the Mischianza is anymore?

Also: is the main character really supposed to be the soda name?

>>9617241
nigger thinks reverend cherry coke is the main character. you ain't gonna make it son.

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>>9615943
but what if to live aesthetically we need to have money and pay for stuff?

Perhaps in your dia logos you should've taken in account the difference of enjoying aesthetics and owning aesthetically pleasing things.

Try again.

>>9615943
Been meaning to read this for a while. I-Is this a new printing? If so, fuck yes.

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>>9615966
Of course we need money. The difference between enjoying aesthetics and owning aesthetically pleasing things isn't where the conversation is supposed to end, it's where it's supposed to begin. How beautiful consumer goods become disenchanted once we own them (or re-enchanted, perhaps, once we put them on display - in our homes, on social media, wherever).

I'm right there with envy and desire and mimesis. Psychologically I think that makes the consumer society run - and where consumption goes, much else follows.

But rather than respond in a mimetic way, how about this: talk about the difference between enjoying aesthetics and owning aesthetically pleasing objects, anon.

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>>9615889
Feet is the thinking man's fetish.

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The white man came here once

>>9615905
They're the cubist subject of Literature.

>>9615846
There aren't any, nobody wants books about or written by lard asses

>>9615846
The Dark Knight Rises novelization.

You should read the Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz. The title character is a fatass bumbling through life trying to get laid, but the novel is more about Dominican culture and Oscar's family. It's really funny but sobering at the same time.

>>9615757
Unimpressed. Sell it and get a first edition Infinite Jest if you want to brag on this board.

>>9615757
such a shit book. you got meme'd.

>>9615767
b-but infinite jest is comparatively trash senpai

>>9615465
Fucking Dolokhov

>>9615508
needs to be decapitated by a screaming cannonball..

Sadly, Sidney Carton. I cannot close that book without feeling as if I'm bringing the blade down on his neck. Was this intended? Wouldn't surprise me. Dickens was THAT kind of artist, plebs.
>speaking of decapitation

>Why do certain people act like any old book is a masterpiece
Most well known works are celebrated as they are because they are special and holding them in high regard is perfectly natural.
>and that reading a book itself is some form of achievement
When did your friend say that? Reading Sherlock Holmes or any other work by Sir Conan Doyle is pretty easy, the stories are for pre teen kids.

Yeah I agree with your friend Sherlock is a period character and trying to bastardise it for cheap Hollywood interpretations is belittling the quality of the original work.

You have a right to your opinion and to disagree with me but your friend and me stand on the same side.

>>9615460

The BBC Sherlock is fucking shit, no one disagrees with that. My point is just that the original stories are fine for what they are but they aren't great works of literature.

>>9615460
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>>9615305
I don't know about the USA but he has a pretty good reputation in France thanks to philosophers like Michéa who were heavily inspired by him.

>>9615322
Yes I'm French too and I discovered him through Alain Soral videos

>>9615305

Just read Revolt of the Elites/Culture of Narcissism in the last month, but am Ausfag.

thebaffler.com is a modern 'little magazine of ideas' (leftist, but anti-liberal, spin; anti libfem and SJW) which has a lot of content inspired by Lasch.