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>>9626551
My diary desu

>>9626551
The bible

Unironically the Greeks and even moreso the Romans. I don't think I would have been ready for some of the more literary or philosophical works, but the histories could have done me a lot of good I think. Besides the general "literary foundation" cited by lit users as a reason for starting with the Greeks, on a personal level as someone growing up with either an absent or a very negative father figure in my life, I learned a lot about masculinity from the Greeks and Romans that I think people with more healthy family situations naturally learned as kids. They helped me (and continue to do so) to get at least some grasp on what life looks like as a man, and have done a lot to lead me in the right direction.

I'm 24 now and started reading them at 22, but I just wish I had read them earlier. I went through college and my most tenderly formative years with no guidance, and almost totally stagnated as a person until after graduation, which is when I started reading some Greeks. I've grown a lot since then, but that growth would have come easier and gone further in an "easy" environment like a college campus, with so many opportunities to meet new people and try new things.

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The Turner Diaries

>>9626480
It's a 'bible for racists'. What has that got to do with tyranny?

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>>9626471

Faulkner by far.

Le Iceberg Theory is a crutch for poor writers.

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>>9626461
I read Whom the Bells recently and hated it.

>Maria appears for the first time
>shes the first female character to appear in the novel
>Hemingway describes her breasts in teh first paragraph of her existence

>>9626735
>Le Iceberg Theory is a crutch for poor writers.

Couldn't agree more with this. I'd also add that this type of writing (simple language, short sentences) has been promoted since that time with the intention of lowering the quality of fiction.

It's in Spanish. Get English version band enjoy

>>9626407
Why?

>>9626407
lewl

Stoner was a nu-male.

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hurhur let me just marry this chick I've known for two seconds- OH MY GOD WHY DOES MY LIFE SUCK NOW

>>9626173
it's literally impossible to discuss this book with normies

I haven't read much of it. "the river with no bridge"(1900) by sue sumii was an enjoyable read if you're into historical fiction, but it ended with a communist rant.

>>9626091
C'mon

Osamu dazai, no longer human

ive read his book about the tiger and didnt like it

He is a really bad writer, suffers in translation because of his eccentricities and you should read Crowley instead. Crowley gives you a practical, reasoned and informed view of the esoteric whereas Evola rhapsodizes about the esoteric without giving you the What.

>>9626054
Really I actually enjoyed Ride The Tiger. I was thinking about reading Revolt Against the Modern World next.

>>9626005
>mfw

>>9626005
Just do your homework when your teacher assigns it. I know highschool seems like it's never going to end and you get overwhelmed but trust me, if you just read and do your homework right when you get home you'll be done and have all afternoon to yourself. Plus you won't be totally stressed amd frustrated and up way past your bedtime.

>>9626005
>zero mathematics or science
Give one example outside of any anglo

>>9625943
I want to be a better writer. Have some stuff finished of which I am both ashamed and proud. It's all trash though. It feels bad.
>relatively quick response time
Good luck. Do you care if it's an e-zine instead of print? Do you ink you're publishable?

>>9625943
I recently took a hiatus, because I couldn't tell where I want to take my poetry. My favorite lines I've done are rarely the ones that get a response, and I often wind up hating my pieces that get good receptions (even if I liked them at first). I think its just self-sabotage though.

Still, my handle of sonic seems to constantly improve and I honestly feel like I'm getting closer to a professional level of writing. I'm now trying to look at those ultra-specific techniques that contemporary poets tend to use (like 2-4 spaces to create a half-linebreak) and hoping to use them usefully too.

Any other (aspiring) poets here want to talk shop?

>>9625961
I personally see myself writing mediocre to above average genre fiction, so I doubt I can offer you any good advice. A friend of mine once attended a writer's workshop and said it helped him. I actually think that it helps to find like-minded individuals.
>e-zine or print
i would prefer an e-zine.

>>9625854
Book of the Dead.

>>9625854
hehe have you heard the /pol/ meme about blacks and kings in egypt :)

>>9625854
Simple answer, you don't.

A Thousand Plateaus

Socrates' apology

>>9625812
Start with Plato and Aristotle; you should probably buy companion books, so that you can understand what's happening. People will meme you into thinking you need to be an expert on ancient Greece in order to advance, but that's autistic. Also Rome is entirely optional, and after Plato and Aristotle you should be making your way to Aquias. From there you have hit Leibnitz and Hume, then strike at Kant; you'll want another companion book for him. Greece is where you start out, but it depends on what subjects of philosophy you're interested in.

>>9625771
le funny frogpost

>>9625771
May you please just do yourself a favour and play CoD or LoL instead of making a fool out of yourself, mkey?

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>>9625771
ITS CALLED A COMEDY WHY ISNT IT FUNNY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>9625734
Dude she just pretended not to know them so she didn't have to listen to the pseudo-philosophy of some edgelord.
Sounds like a real catch, shame you were too pleb for her

>>9625734
I've talked to middle-aged male authors who don't even know who Joyce is, so it's definitely not something exclusive to females. That said, expecting a millennial female to have read anything beyond 50 shades of grey is absurd. You'll find one that has maybe read Wuthering Heights and some other entry tier stuff every now and then (and likely for a class) but those are definitely rare cases. I had one of those rare girls as a girlfriend for a year, and while she was very well read her opinions on literature definitely made me rethink things every now and then. I wouldn't really expect too much. Just find a girl that at least appreciates literature, and shows some interest in learning more about it from you.

>>9625734
Talked to girl yesterday who was writing her master's thesis on Proust. She spoke French too.

You meet shit people on tinder, probably.

>>9625668
reddit meme

>>9625668
More of a meme than IJ

>>9625669
>is famous
>can't have quality
what is a classic?

>>9625601
Yes, mostly of historical interest and juicy gossip.

Discourses on Livy is far more substantial.

>>9625601

If the ideas come to you as no surprise anon, then it's exactly because this text represents beginnings of modern thought which you were raised in and now take for granted. At the time and place in which it was written, even if the ideas themselves weren't novelties, openly setting them down in a text definitely was. The historical novelty is thus the importance of the work.

>>9625676
>If the ideas come to you as no surprise anon, then it's exactly because this text represents beginnings of modern thought which you were raised in and now take for granted.
A friend of mine made exactly the same point. I'm sad to say that you're probably right, although I do wonder how much me being British might factor into this.