How does /lit/ feel about using curse words in literature?
If heads need to roll to stop it, so be it.
You stay away from those cursed books kid
I think it can be used appropriately, especially in dialogue since it can serve as characterization. I feel edgy when I use it narrating though
Can I get some recommendations on books about consciousness? An overview of the view on consciousness throughout philosophy would be great as well as standalone texts. Thanks
>>9632114
There's a very short introduction on consciousness although I haven't read it.
>>9632114
Julian Jaynes - The Origins of Consciousness.
Great attempt to describe what consciousness is. Eccentric and weird attempt to describe its origins. It's a shame that Jaynes never lived long enough to develop his own theory of the mind.
>>9632143
Thanks for the recommendation. I believe I've heard of this before. Doesn't the author claim that ancient man didn't understand where thoughts came from and believed that he heard the voice of the gods in his mind?
who is the cutest girl In all of literature? for me it's Lux Lisbon.
valeria luiselli
Damn fine writer too
>>9631918
What would you recommend to read first?
>he reads anything other than contemporary fiction
Why would anyone waste their time reading a book written before 1970?
>>9631844
I know that you're probably just baiting but this is how I honestly feel. How could people who were living in completely different societies write stuff that still has meaning in the modern world?
Maybe anime is superior after all desu
>>9631854
are you serious? because i don't believe you are
anyway, no one is forcing you or OP to read anything...
>>9631866
I am reading, but mostly stuff that /lit/ considers "YA"
A few days back we bitched and moaned about who didn't deserve their Nobel prize.....Who, in your opinion, Deserved their Nobel prize in literature??
>>9631754
thats dustin hoffman
Modiano. Had never heard about him before, but turns out it's one of dad's favorite so I ended up borrowing a few books from him. Truly an excellent writer that I might had never heard of if he hadn't won the nobel prize
So, where does one start with Shakespeare? Is reading plays even considered appropriate, or are there better media to explore first? Theater performances on Youtube perhaps? Radio plays? Surely not movies?
>needs help to enter step 1 of literature
kill yourself
open the books fucknigga
>>9631464
DONT READ THE FUCKING PLAYS
THEY ARE MEANT TO BE PERFORMED.
READ AND THEN WATCH.
DO NOT JUST READ.
Hi /lit/,
I have a bunch of books that I've been wanting to read, but I have a hard time visually organizing and comparing my selections. They fall into a lot of categories, so a simple outline format in Microsoft Word is a giant pain in the ass and doesn't suit my needs. I don't think Excel has been a better help either.
What is an easy tool to use to organize my booklists? I already have the labels, I just want to apply my own labels to organize them in a way that doesn't utterly confuse me or slow down my computer. Bonus points if it does not require online functionality and does not require anything larger than a 17" notebook screen to navigate effectively.
Thanks!
How does everyone organize their booklists? With Word? Excel? Notepad?
just use goodreads
>>9631715
Fuck Goodreads. I'm not using that shit so somebody can datamine my shit. I just want a simple offline tool.
hey /lit/tle people. I'm feeling shit right now. Do you guys like dragonlance? After going full poverty when I was around 11-12 I got into reading because there was nothing else to do. Started with the Death Gate Cycle then just went with the same authors and found Dragonlance. I just wanna know how people feel about it.
This is the first sffg thread I will answer sincerely and not reply "genre shit, take it to sffg".
I've read around 700 books in literature and still consider Dragonlance one of the most fun and exciting among them. It's derivative, sure, but the character dynamics and sense of adventure still summon affection from me.
bumping for attention to distract myself from everything
comfy and enjoyable series, op
>tfw Plato drinks the hemlock
Truly a great man, gone before his time. What are some other Greek/Roman philosophers I can read?
>>9631376
>Plato
None
Maybe try some of Socrates' writings?
First time on /lit/, I am an amateur writer, writing Science Fiction for the first time. I'm unsure as to whether or not this kind of thread is appropriate in /lit/, so please excuse me if this is against the rules.
Please tell me what you think about my writing concept, any suggestions or helpful criticism is appreciated. The concept is as follows.
In the year 2134, God returns to earth for a few minutes and saves the world from some sort of global disaster, (global warming/environmental change, nuclear war, etc) that would otherwise destroy humanity in its entirety, then disappears. As far as anyone could tell, it's the real deal. God Almighty. The world transitions into a religious society, ruled by the Pope and other religious leaders. After nearly seventy years of humanity living in peace, worshiping God, and being good to one another, a team of scientists discover that God's "return" was nothing more than manipulation of quantum energy/dark matter (the sciency stuff I haven't figured out yet) by a manmade supercomputer, which fell from the sky.
The scientists determine for a fact that the return of God was entirely put on by the supercomputer, (as was putting an end to the extinction event), and go public with this information. Society breaks down and goes into chaos, and the scientists realize they have to develop this supercomputer, and using it, go back in time, trying to rewrite history so that the world doesn't end in disaster in their own time.
The concept is still in development, and I'm fully aware it seems a lot like Interstellar meets the typical time travel plot, but I'm trying to figure out ways to make it unique. Please let me know what you think!
Might have been fun to read but now you've told us your plot you're never going to write it. Do you even know how you'd write it, scene by scene? What are your characters like? Do you have a sense of prose? Have you ever written anything before?
>>9631370
How about instead of writing this garbage you use that type to start with the Greeks so you're not as much of a pseud redditor faggot.
Your idea screams like something the loud insufferable pseud retard in a community college Phil course would love. I'd suggest suicide if you had the depth of thought to be capable of it.
>>9631370
I can sympathize, because I also had these edgy ideas about putting God into some work when I was young and stupid. They were all bad ideas. So is this one. Also, Interstellar was vapid nonsense, and I cringe to think that's now what the general public thinks science fiction is supposed to be like.
>Society breaks down and goes into chaos, and the scientists realize they have to develop this supercomputer, and using it, go back in time, trying to rewrite history so that the world doesn't end in disaster in their own time.
Honestly, this sounds like the most interesting aspect of it. My advice would be to cut away some of your ambition, and reduce the ideas to its bare bones. So say you take this concept, and then narrow it down to one era you want to focus on, or one event. You ought to realize it's been done before. I read a collection of short stories from 1969 a while ago, and two of them dealt with this theme. One presented the idea that Shakespeare got his work from a time traveller attempting to verify whether his ideas were actually his, the other a time traveller impregnating an early homonid in order to spread his own genes across all of human history. The latter was quite well written, too. Oh, and then there's stuff like Hard to be a God, from the same general time, which deals with a communist agent observing -but forbidding from interfering with- a semi-historical society.
You can see, that one idea already presents a world of possibility. The entire pre-amble God as a supercomputer is not needed.
Let's hope, for Shakespeare's sake, the person who painted this wasn't very talented. If not, the man looked like Satan incarnate. I would not want to run into him after hours.
>>9630956
his eyes seem reversed.
>>9630965
They look far more laboured over than the rest of his face. I think that's what makes the portrait so unsettling.
Satan was an angel, so...
is this a good starting point?
>>9630915
Not at all. If you're interested in all this you have to start with Kant, Hegel, and Marx, then Freud and Nietzsche. From there all 20th century is your oyster. You'll miss some Greek refs but you pick that up pretty quickly.
>>9630951
>If you're interested in all this you have to start with Kant, Hegel, and Marx, then Freud and Nietzsche
why are those necessary?
>>9630962
you'll soon understand
Ive heard a bunch of John Greens young adult novels, and I just have to ask.
Why is he so obsessed with describing teenage sex? Like the BJ scene in Looking for Alaska is just straight up awkward
>>9630806
Can't speak to the others, but the argument in Looking for Alaska is that romantic and/or emotional intimacy is better and/or more important than sex. Green describes sex as awkward and cuddling as the tightest shit ever because that's a reflection of his personal beliefs on the subject.
Basically, the madonna/whore complex, but without a desirable whore.
Decent reply, seeing as the rest of /lit would just say hes a cuck and move on. Thanks!
>>9630854
why isn't there a word for and/or
>reading poetry
>watching youtube videos of a retarded monkey
>>9630782
>retarded monkeys
They have operated a spaceship into space and made it back home...
>>9630786
you must be a retarded human
Why do so many people read this and write off McCandless as a naive edgy kid? He lived his ideals to the fullest and expressed no regrets or resentment.
He also probably died of a toxin that was unknown at the time and might have just as well killed an experienced outdoorsman.
>He lived his ideals to the fullest and expressed no regrets or resentment.
That's just it: you can do all that and still be a naive edgy kid. I haven't read the book but come on.
>>9630755
>lived his ideals and...
That's why people think hes a naive and edgy child
He went into the wilderness without even having a map. Hubris!
Even savage peoples do not wander blindly into unexplored territory.