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I just started to read Plato and I was wondering , since I don't want to read the complete work, what are the most philosophically relevant dialogues.

I have already read the apology .
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Shameless self bump
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>>9635918
Nobody read Plato because its just shit strawman arguments.
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>>9635918
Greater Hippias.

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>You (singular)
>You (plural)

>Free: as in gratis
>Free: as in freedom

>Right
>write
>rite

why is english so fucked up?
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t. someone who doesn't know any other languages or doesn't realize how fucked up they are because you're native
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anglos are subhumans
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>>9635887
Arabic and maybe rusian is nowhere as clusterfucky as this
For every english word arabic has 4 or 5

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What are some essential loser literature?
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>>9635850
The Loser by Thomas Bernhard. One of the greatest books I've ever read.
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Lists of works with "top" or "sell" in their titles.
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>>9636212
I just finished yesterday. It was amazing. I loved the narrative style. It was a bit heavy to read (it's the first i read by Bernhard) but i was still very engaged.
I actually didn't know Glenn Gould was a real person until i searched the Goldberg Variations on youtube and saw videos of hims performing it

It seems the problem isn't multiculturalism, is islam.
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>>9635807
theres no islam in america and things aren't looking any brighter than europe
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Huntington was more worried about the Orthodox-Slavs than the Muslim world. The Arabian peninsula has produced many ideologies that are antithetical to the 'West'/North Atlantic, but it's Russian irredentism that has continually disrupted or challenged North Atlantic interests around the world in modern times.
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>>9635813
>9/11
>Fort Hood
>Boston
>San Bernardino
>Orlando

If it weren't for Islamic terrorism Trump never would've become president.

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I really want to get into the philosophy of Existentialism. Which works would you recommend and with which should I start?
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Satre - Nausea
Camus - Sysiphos / The Stranger

maybe some Kierkegaard or even Heidegger if you feel fancy although they're not strictly existentialist but have had quite some influence on the movement
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kierkegaard - fear and trembling
nietzsche - beyond good and evil
sartre - being and nothingness
heidegger - being and time
camus - myth of sisyphus
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>>9636318
>>9636331
thank you, I'll check it out

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Is Houellebecq a hack or worth a read? if the latter, which of his books should I read?
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atomised
submission
possibility of an island
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>>9635755
He captures well the mentallity of weak low test bitter westerners beta male, you should give it a go.

Read l'extension du domaine de la lutte, then read soumission.
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>>9635755
*Hollebeek
He is Dutch my friend

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Is "Penguins Classics Deluxe" the "Criterion Collection" of the literary world?
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>>9635744
Criterion Collection releases classics in the highest audio/video quality to match today's standards.

Penguin publishes books with edgy af book covers.
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That would have to be Oxford World's Classics, New York Review Books Classics, Library of America or Everyman's Library. Penguin Classics and Norton Critical Editions are pretty good as well.
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>>9635792
>Everyman's Library

I would say this.

>Deconstruction of the Subject, if there is such a thing, which I doubt, can in no case amount to dissolution of the Subject.

What did he mean by this?
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Deconstruction of the Subject can in no case amount to dissolution of the Subject, but he doubts such a thing is even possible
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>>9635609
Literally read what is saying next he says it in the simplest way possible, as he says "in jargon-free language". Mods delete this thread
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>>9635609
This is stupid a thread but its something I always think when dealing with deconstruction.

If Decostruction is always working in the text, and if there is nothing outside text (meaning that everything is mediated through grammé, singns traces, postponement and such), why wouldn't a deconstruction of the subject be possible?
And by subject I dont mean subject sub specie aeternitatis, I mean this or that given subject (me, you, the plumber, Donald Trump).
After all he makes a specific point in his critique of Husserl that conscience and its contents are always mediated by signs.

Maybe I confusing conscience and subject, but but leaving out the subject from the deconstructve "danger" wouldn't transform Derrida's project in just another, even if highly eccentric, form of trascendentalism?

Of course dissolution is out of the question, as decontructed text dont dissolve, but create new meaning.

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Any books on the plight of the 21rst century man?
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my dairy tbdesu
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Don't think there are good books about the last 17 years written and properly recognised for their quality.

I will however, suggest my diary.
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>>9635566
You already posted the best one. Start with the Elliots. Here's another article http://www.thumotic.com/the-killing-fields-of-the-21st-century/

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I know /lit/'s stance on Rupi, the poetess, but I was wondering whether any of you have considered what she is really, actually doing. Rupi is bringing potentially thousands - if not millions - of young girls toward the medium of poetry, and even the act of reading again. After years of media disintegration - as envisioned by David Wallace - I'd think /lit/ should be better suited to foster the flower of literacy, however "uncanon" it may be.
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>>9635349
So we should be happy women are retarded?
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>>9635349
We should respect and pretend to like godawful, tokenism poetry because it might entice someone who is actually a really good super great fantastic poet to poetry, and just didn't realize it until they read Rupi Kaur's dogshit?
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>>9635349
we know what she's 'actually' doing

writing dull shit

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If you could only read 10 books for the rest of your life what would they be?
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the Torah, the Gospels, and Finnegans Wake
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the complete works of...
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>>9634862
That's quite minimalististic, it's only 3 (technically 2) books!
>>9634895
Of what? Shakespeare? Ezra Pound? Plato? Faulkner?

Why isn't there a board for writers, writing, and critique?

We have both /i/ and /ic/, but all writers have is /lit/ and it's single critique thread. Why not have a /litc/ ?
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>>9634848
It's a hell of a lot harder to write well than it is to draw naked anime girls well. Having looked at the quality of writing from this board, do you really want a writing board? There would only be a handful of people that could offer valid advice, and every thread would be people spamming their trite and uninspired poetry. I think that it'd be cool to have a writing board, but I know that it would turn out poorly.
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Lit is already slow.
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>>9634848
Do you really want a /wsr/ repeat?
How would we ever fill up 100 threads with that?

It's the same as with other /d/, /h/, <spoiler> /pol/ </spoiler> and /k/ subcommunities, it just stays as a recurring general to mild annoyance of the rest of the board, but no real harm provided duplicates aren't made.

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If Catcher in the Rye was written in 1951, how does it make a reference to a person born in 1956?
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It's all a big jew conspiracy
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>>9634723
>most [] successful magician in history
That's how you fucking mong.
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>>9634723
(((Kotkin)))

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ROBERT A. HEINLEIN THREAD

What do you /lit/fags think of Robert Heinlein, one of the fathers of American science fiction?
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>>9634717
Starship troopers was a book?
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>>9634717
Is this worth reading or is it a meme? Or both?
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>>9634808
It's a fun read

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Your favourite novel never discussed on lit? Bonus points if it's written by someone who isn't American or British.
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>>9634713

>Bonus points if you act like an identity politics fuckwit about it.

Fixed.
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>>9634713
There used to be a hardcore MM,MD poster here that would never shut up about it. he put it on the map for me
>>9634733
You're out of your mind if you think Gaddis isn't a meme here
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>>9634733

OP here, I've read all four of Gaddis' novels. A Frolic of his Own actually heavily influenced me and now I'm in law school. I've realised that I've spent the last few years reading way too many American and British authors and I want to branch out and explore other cultures and writers. I don't really believe in the merits of identity politics. My country is far too fatalist for that sort of thing.

Did you post a picture of Gaddis because you've never read a writer who isn't American?

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