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I've only read Inferno. As someone who is not religious looking in, it seems to me that Dante does more to discredit Christianity in a few ways.
Specifically with irony surrounding the pilgrim's (Dante the pilgrim) bewilderment towards the bureaucratic nature of the punishments given (at least up to the Malbolge), and the Poet's (meta Dante the poet) casual indifference towards the punishments. This irony is strengthened by the fact that the Virgil will occasionally be confused as to why the pilgrim is so horrorstruck and proceeds to reprimand him for wavering in his faith (a faith that Virgil himself never knew and is forced to behold in death).
This irony is strengthened another level further when you consider the notion that Dante (the poet) was aiming to bring righteousness to the corrupt society he was exiled from, while undermining it with his rhetoric.
Am I reading this wrong?
What was your take away? Im especially interested in your take away if you happen to be religious.
Does the Purgatorio and Paradiso undo or put into context this odd situation?
I hope I am not reading this wrong. Any help is very much appreciated!
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>>10008786
you're retarded and you should kys
>read 1/3 of a book
>type a bunch of im-13-and-this-is-deep thoughts
fuck off back to r/books
>>10008818
But I want to know WHY I am reading it wrong.
Nice try though. here's the (you)
post your best book covers
>star wars
>>10008759
You start, OP.
So, Pynchon. When are you going to release your work on ancient history, and the future? I notice that your Line series are a compilation of several eras, but two are glaringly absent, something along the lines of ancient greece, and something along the lines of sci-fi future bs. Where is this work? It seems like a natural progression, and I was thinking about it in the shower, so you know it's deep enough to be valid, despite my problems explaining it. Are you too old, or is it just lying in wait? what will be the next manifestation of The Line?
Nothin? I guess he doesn't come here after all.
Pynchon's uncle here, I heard from his sister that he's been using an alias for a few years, not sure what it is, but I think it rhymes with a word for a large, juiceless fruit resembling either a mammary or a mammal (not too sure), anyway he abandoned his kid a few months ago, he told me he was going to write a new book. I don't remember talking to him, actually.
>>10008886
thanks for the tip, Uncle Bodine
This guy will make $1bn dollars in 10 years.
What is he reading right now?
My diary desu
science fiction!
The Torah
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>>10008601
Kinda. The things that are closest on the tree should be much closer. Linguistics doesn't go to logic, we can have logic without linguistics. Higher level math is cognitively entirely separate from logic, especially in the linguistic sense. We do math in numbers, language in words/pictures/shapes but most importantly when picturing and not writing out in semantic concepts.
The neurocognitive definition of semantic memory is very different from the definition of any of its constituent words.
Offhand, I'm a senior in my undergrad who has done 2 years of neuro research with my professors, going to grad school for it. I'm on /lit/ because I like lit. I'll answer what I can about cognition, or point you in the right direction.
>>10008625
How can maths exist without a system of logic?
>>10008601
>Mathematics
>Not in the Nature side
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No joke man, Gene Wolfe was one of the first people that introduced me to Catholicism (I was very uneducated until I read him).
Got confirmed two years ago and haven't looked back
>>10008504
Go to bed Aramani
Nietzsche, Karl Popper.
>>10008504
>he didn't get introduced to catholicism by dante
foreverapleb, aramini.
anyone have any good books about the protag questioning his/her sexuality? not just stupid lolita k thnx, mostly interested in conflicted gays
>>10008491
just read proust.
bugs...?!
Bugsina... easy on the dick.
Is his Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding enough?
Also will Kant be more difficult than Spinoza's Ethics was?
Read lebniz instead
New essays on human understanding
Critique of pure reason is very similar plus some Hume influence
>>10008474
If you have read and understood Spinoza's ethics you are a genius. It the most dense philosophical work ever written.
His Treatise should be sufficient
I wrote today words from Mind and hand and fingers typing across page to be read by you late night tired should sleep oh who is this madman typing use punctuation please and let this story end.
I was about to call you a faggot but then I noticed the digits
>>10008465
Don't you know I did the digits
>>10008444
What did you take anon? Are you gonna be like this forever? I sent you a message. Did you get it? Do you get "IT"?
the australian j. mcelroy
First time I've seen this mentioned anywhere besides my dad talking about, fuckin' right mate! I wish more people knew about this or Xavier Herbert in general.
>>10008394
you dad is lit af man
my country too is overlooked in a literary sense, I know the feel
I own this book but have never read it... is it worth it?
What's the best dectective novel, /lit/?
>>10008358
The Maltese Falcon
Inspector Palmu's Error
The Big Sleep?
In terms of worldbuilding, Fatherland is pretty cool but has an average plot.
Which one was more correct?
i might just be an idiot, but working my way through them gives me the impression that they both hold the same view of the world but use different language to describe it.
>>10008350
Plato
>>10008360
Aristotle and Plato have completely different philosophies.
Aristotle is obsessed with our "physical reality" while Plato can't get over "Muh Forms"
Was the Frankfurt School right about the culture industry?
>>10008330
Yes it just exists to promote the interests of the ruling class. The bourgeoisie are the drivers of culture and they are a reactionary bunch. They suppress any deviation from their norms by shame. Every revolutionary idea becomes incorporated into the dominant culture in a dumbed down fashion so as to neutralize it.
>>10008361
Good post.
It would explain why their thought is so derided by the masses, who have been told by every alternative news source that the world is run off the ideas of a small group of dead jews in the interest of taring down western civilization to increase the number of brown babies and sissy boys.
Marxist thought examines the dynamics and structures of real power within capitalist society. The Frankfurt school applied that thought to culture. It's no wonder you can't have an intelligent conversation on the subject or even expect to be taken seriously in a public forum.
>>10008361
Why does the ruling class think the way they do?
>tfw in college
>dont have any time for reading for myself
>feel overdosed on reading dull scientific textbooks
>if i ever have free time i just browse 4chan or watch a youtube video because thats all I can really commit
holy shit will it ever end? when I was a teen and had tons of free time i watched all kinds of films and read all kinds of books
now i just feel too tired to do anything if i have free time
does it get better or is this just adult life?
i feel for you anon, im in a similar position.
managed to allocate some time today to reading and got to finish a novel. feels p good
Stop being a STEMsperg. Easy.
>>10008289
it will get better when you have a shitload of money in exchange for all this work you're doing.
you do intend to get money for all this, right? i mean, otherwise, if you're working so hard and you're not going to be able to enjoy your old age with assloads of money, then it's completely fucking pointless.
Hey /lit/
I've been working on a book for almost 11 years. I have a good portion of it completed in paper and been transferring it to PC. When I get done, I'll find an editor and so on. What are some good publishers for a beginner? Got any tips?
If you're curious on my age I'm 25
Send it to me and I'll crank a few out from the printing press in my brother's room
>>10008291
totally dude.
I saw this recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9opQVV73RcM&index=22&list=PLt2YS_QNPleX9RtVAxI1Os4oeiSh9LMr4
Basically try getting an agent. Preferably one that publishes some of the books you like.