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>>10030500
"Hehe I'm transgressively corrupting the bounded ispeity and identity of the board by using the memes against the memers! Watch the autoimmunity work it's self de(con)structive magic! Down with the self regulating processes that make any cultural group coherent! Down with the western canon! Down with white males! Soon we'll all be brown hermaphrodites living in a communist utopia with horizontal mechanisms of social organization! But not soon enough!"

lol mad teen

>>10030500
Paul B. Preciado, specially "Testo Junkie"

https://www.amazon.es/Testo-Junkie-Drugs-Biopolitics-Pharmacopornographic/dp/1558618376

>>10030356
Part of the reason why Shakespeare has survived so well is because it's mostly dialogue, so the reader is forced to imagine the scenes as he pleases. Dante wrote about somewhere that does not exist on our plane.

You've got the cogs turning, anon. Can you think of any other writers like Dante and Shakespeare who feel timeless? Certainly many of the famous philosophers from Dante's era are long forgotten, yet he's still here.

>>10030356
Another playwright who has scenes that are open to interpretation and is seen as timeless is Samuel Beckett.

Perhaps that's one advantage of theater, is that the settings are adaptable to any era so long as the dialogue is timeless.

Novels are a bit trickier because all of them can come to pass because they're more rooted in style and fashion. Some might have timeless themes, but fashion and manners change, therefore they need footnotes. Nonetheless, think about how popular Jane Austen is with normie girls despite how many footnotes there are in a given Penguin or Oxford edition to explain the strange customs or words that no longer exist in England.

>If part of the job of literature is to capture some aspect of the timeless nature of the human condition
Why do you think this is part of the job of literature? Why must literature be timeless, why must writing represent timelessness, and how do we even begin to define and understand the human condition given its mutability?

>does rapid evolution of technology and it's importance in the modern world not cost the work
I honestly don't understand what you mean here. Are you suggesting, for example, that because we use solar energy instead of burning moss in a cave that contemporary technology is somehow removed from human evolution? You come off as a Luddite.

>How do you deal with this?
OP, I consider whether the motherfucker is a contemporary writer or has a mental illness, then read the text, and finally judge its contents based on common sense. Clearly things are going to evolve past an author's ability to conceive of the future, and clearly I have no business dismissing pertinent observations based on observational shortcomings. Take the writing with a grain of salt, cherrypick what's interesting to you, and judge the work based on your own criteria, not some sort of impossible timeline.

>footnotes
I I were to write something, which I wouldn't since I'm not arrogant and self-absorbed, I wouldn't worry about footnotes. Footnotes are for explanation to people who are interested. Including them in my own text would assume quite arrogantly I could convey my thoughts in a manner that future audiences would understand and that my explanations would be clear and relevant. More than likely, through my experiences reading footnotes from stupid fucking past authors, that's not the case—that my own explanations would fall flat. If my work were to end up being important, then someone whose job it is to convey the importance of my work to gullible readers would offer footnotes. It's not the author's job.

Any other questions you could resolve by Googling "Western canon," "literature and timelessness," and "historical writing"?

>>10030309
You don't have to grasp it all the first time you read something. You develop your understanding over time.

OP, if you have autism, then you should try not posting on this board.

1. You don't need to "understand all the information." No one can, and there's no point in attempting it.

2. There's more to texts than what's "in the text." Its composition, author, and period are quite important too—among other things.

3. It is impossible to understand things "correctly." Again, there's no such thing. There are approximations of understanding and attempts at alignment—and nothing more.

A few question for you:

1. What are you reading at the moment that you need help with? Your sad emoji face and tone of desperation suggestion you're having trouble with something.

2. Why are you so concerned about understanding EVERYTHING to EVERY DEGREE in the CORRECT MANNER? That seems useless to me?

3. You don't need to take a literature course, OP. There are plenty of free online courses from prestigious universities that can give you an introduction to literary analysis and critical thinking. Do general Google searches using the terms in the aforementioned sentences. I'm sure you'll find plenty of fulfilling information.

I don't know, OP, but if I were you and had opinions about what was good and what wasn't—you know: basic opinions about any work of art or thought—what I would do to determine whether or not the work is, as you put it, "good" is to read the book and decide for myself, not waste the time of forum-goers by asking a banal, general, vacuous question, whether or not it is good.

You can easily find the work on libgen at http://gen.lib.rus.ec. Check it out for yourself. Bataille is an interesting other and worth your time. Try not to ask such bullshit in the future.

>>10030286
I know Bataille. Could you guys tell me more avout what he specifically discusses in this book?

>>10030463
Check his Wikipedia for more info, anon. In short, he's interested in transgressive sexuality, immorality, religious defiance, taboo everything, etc. He was an iconoclast and inflammatory writer. A lot of his writing is intended to provoke, and even if many of his passages function in more profound terms, a lot of his writing is provocative for its sake. I recommend it.

I read a quote by Alfred Rosenberg that was very similar.

>>10030163
Yeah? have a copy? Searching Alfred Rosenberg+Relativism didn't get me anything.

Nah, shit's old, son, and all the texts have been readily available for hundreds of years, nor am I interested in some fucking bloke named Strassler providing unoriginal commentary on over-discussed works.

>>10030290
yeh desu i'm conflicted on this one. landmark is that good kush and alcohol but i already own and have read the primary sources. maybe i'll buy the paperback when it comes down in price, just for the maps.

>>10030032
Everything you see around you is just the heuristic interpretation of an external reality. Everything you experience is a product of your mind. If you try to find meaning in life trough reason, then you have already neglected your own existence.

I'm not from /lit/. I come to troll this board myself. Consider this a bump.

nigga its a hobby like chill lmao

From the stillness animals throng, out of the clear
Snapping forest of lair and nest;
And thus they are stealthy not from cunning
Not from fear

But to hear. And in their hearts the howling, the cry,
The stag-call seem too little. And where before
Was but the rudest shelter to receive these,

A refuge fashioned out of darkest longing
Entered, tremulo, the doorpost aquiver, -
There You have fashioned them a temple for their hearing.

Da stieg ein Baum. O reine Übersteigung !
O Orpheus singt! O hoher Baum im Ohr!
Und alles schwieg. Doch selbst in der Verschweigung
ging neuer Anfang, Wink und Wandlung vor.

Tiere aus Stille drangen aus dem klaren
gelösten Wald von Lager und Genist;
und da ergab sich, daß sie nicht aus List
und nicht aus Angst in sich so leise waren,

sondern aus Hören. Brüllen, Schrei, Geröhr
schien klein in ihren Herzen. Und wo eben
kaum eine Hütte war, dies zu empfangen,

ein Unterschlupf aus dunkelstem Verlangen
mit einem Zugang, dessen Pfosten beben, -
da schufst du ihnen Tempel im Gehör.

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From this one bliss of song and of lyre
It rises, like a maiden,
Shining clear through its spring veil,
And comes to rest in my ear.

And slumbers within me. And its sleep is All -
Trees I have admired, distances which are tangible,
Meadows that can be touched,
And every astonishment at myself.

The World sleeps within it. - Oh singing god!
How do you accomplish this, that it does
Not crave awakening? See, it rises and sleeps.

Where is its death? Oh, will you elucidate
This theme before your song consumes itself? -
And where does it sink to from within me? ... Like a maiden ..

>>10029925
read principia discordia

>discuss my opinion

cool.

>>10029993
Yes please

I simply hid Youtube from my sight. That fixed my Youtube addiction.
For games, I never really enjoyed them anyway so it was easier for me to give up

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How do I spend less time on /lit/

>>10029939
Set a schedule for when you are allowed to access your phone/computer

Was writing this thread a way to compromise for being an incomplete human being?

>>10029899
No, that doesn't make much sense at all. Plenty of writers lead interesting lives, some of them were great.

Mark Twain wrote. Aurelius wrote. Mina Loy wrote (so did the Dadaist Painter/Boxer/Army Deserter she dated). Sun Tzu, King David, Solomon, Michelangelo, etc. etc.

>>10029915
Will OP ever be able to recover from being this BTFO???

>>10029897
maybe pick up a fucking book. are you 15? this is how 15 year olds think. and go to r9k if you want to blog your diary desu

too many "I"s, first sentence is weak, you forgot an apostrophe here or there, overall D-

Damn alright literally just wrote this out of no where and because of boredom. I feel like I could do much better but this is just writing random shit that comes to my head

>>10029845
he sez he's gonna fix yer funny bone lad

>>10029754
great blog

What you're doing is called "ruminating." You could be 100% right but you're just making yourself unhappy by going over it again and again in your mind. You have to be able to say "damn what a dick" and just let it go.

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>>10029754
you post this

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>>10029609
enjoy my boy

>>10029616
thank

>>10029609
Das Kapital by Karl Marx all volumes.