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what are some great fiction books with biblical themes? I really loved the divine comedy, paradise lost, pilgrim's progress...hell, even a portrait of the artist as a young man. really in need of some more. again, not looking for theology/philosophy works like city of god or summa theologica, rather fiction books with the theme.
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Moby-Dick
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Stop reading books and start acting. Put together a procession with your local parish and do God's will. I suggest doing a procession for Saint John Baptiste or Saint Judas Thaddeus.
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Unironically, The Recognitions. Christian themes all over the places. Enjoy. It's great.

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does ANYONE give a shit about Fichte?
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he was a fucking nazi
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Hegel, I guess.
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>>9653556
>he was a fucking idealist
fichte'd that for you

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Hi c/lit/s,

I was wondering if you could help me find philosophical studies on cemeteries and our need of burying the dead. Just read Foucault's thoughts on heterotopia and it was really eye opening.
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Girard's got some interesting stuff to say about the meaning of the tomb.
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Bataille's Eroticism builds a theory of erotism and taboo starting with the taboo of the dead body and the need to keep it out of sight. It's tangentially related, but pretty good on its own.
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>>9653549

Hegel pretty much says the exact same thing

Is it appropriate for a white writer to include minority characters?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39988992
>Horowitz, who has written 10 novels featuring teenage spy Alex Rider, said there was a "chain of thought" in America that it was "inappropriate" for white writers to try to create black characters, something which he described as "dangerous territory".
>He said it was considered "artificial and possibly patronising" to do so because "it is actually not our experience".
>"Therefore I was warned off doing it. Which was, I thought, disturbing and upsetting."
>Horowitz, who has written a new James Bond book, went on: "Taking it to the extreme, all my characters will from now be 62-year-old white Jewish men living in London."
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>>9653409
Why would you want to write a book with black characters? That's not very good escapism.
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go back there
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who gives a fuck

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Plato
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go back there
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We should strive to have more people interested in the Greeks. If this is the means so be it.
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pretty funny desu

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Has anyone here read a lot of moldbug?
I tried to read him but he goes off on too many tangents about comparing whatever he's talking about to catholics.

Also I was expecting some hard hitting anti democratic anti enlightenment stuff but he just seems like an edgy libertarian
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> seems like an edgy libertarian
> edgy libertarian
> edgy
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aw shit, moldbug thread
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>>9653398
>face only a mother could love

Why is this so common for alt-right/libertarian types?

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>For his part, Derrida expressed considerable unease about the “temptation” for intellectuals to “renounce the academic discipline normally required ‘inside’ the university and to try instead to exert pressure through the press and through public opinion, in order to acquire an influence or a semblance of authority that has no relation to their own work.”
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>>9653343
He has a lot of citations desu, and Maps of Meaning is rigorous.
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>>9653353
yea, this isn't John Green teaching every subject there is on Youtube, this is a tenured professor talking about areas he researches and teaches.
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>>9653353
>Maps of Meaning
Maps of Memeing*

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wtf does "kill your darlings" mean?
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>>9653232
Slaughter your sacred cows
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>>9653237
wtf is that supposed to mean?
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Know your limits and dont get too attached to any particular character or idea if its to the detriment of the whole work.

Does this whole album work when read as a poem? Look at this
http://lyrics.rockmagic.net/lyrics/king_crimson/in_the_court_of_the_crimson_king_1969.html
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>>>/mu/
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>>9653088
cringe
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>>9653088
No one here will admit it but they are some fine ass lyrics

Is there any book where a character is actively sabotaging himself, even unknowingly? Asking for a friend. Nah, I just want to read about someone in my same situation so I can feel a little bit better.
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>>9652872
Goethe's Faust
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>>9652872

What about a book where some pathetic relentless crooks try and cover up a scandal with more crimes? And constantly and incessantly try to cover their own asses? Maybe a character that sees through all of it? I dunno I'd like a book like that.

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Im considering getting this to christen my new ereader with.

Basically after something cosy and good

Any other recommendations?
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Pure cringe. Dropped after 500 pages read.
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>>9652837
>Any other recommendations?
Don't fall for the Sanderson meme.
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>>9652837
>Any other recommendations?
boku no pico

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Post illiterate idiots that make you cringe. Bonus points for Reddit or good reads
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>immutable
>disprove
>laws
>of science
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>>9652726
It may be cringe ,but its true you know
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Them sorts of people are so common on the internet that they don't bother me. I genuinely do pity them because they don't know how stupid they are and they're so closed minded that there's a good chance they'll never change.

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Anyone else finding Dante's comedy in english translation not particularly good? Anyone know of a translation with great musicality to the language? Naturally following a metre, even rhyming perhaps? People claim he is one of the greatest poet but i see none of it in translation. The poetic imagery however is still often striking despite being quite sparsely used.The themes and the plot are perhaps interesting but are often not the things which interests me the most in books. Especially not in poetry. Would be interesting to hear from someone who has read both the original and the translation how big the d difference is.
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I'm on Paradiso with Ciardi. He's definitely more poetic than Mandelbaum or Longfellow, but I plan on reading Hollander afterwards for a literal translation.

Ciardi. Check him out.
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Laurence Binyon's translation in the old Viking Portable Dante (the new version has Mark Musa).

It's the best verse translation in English.
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You can't translate and make it rhyme without throwing out half the original to make it work. It's like Nabokov died for nothing around here.

The only translation is literal. Everything else is jackasses trying to "improve" Dante or make him easier reading for pseuds. Singleton or GTFO.

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Are any of the Eastern.Asian philosophies worth reading into?

Generally I've usually noticed /lit/ considering most of it to be trash.

I did read through The Tao Te Ching long ago but from what I remember it was pretty cryptic, nonsensical bullshit like "be like a rock" and so on.
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Obviously it wouldnt make sense to you, a Westerner, who lacks just about every bit of cultural context and is reading a fucking translation.
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Sho' nuff.

This one's good. So is Herbert Fingarette's book on Confucian epistemology. Sample chapters here:

http://faculty.smcm.edu/jwschroeder/Asian_Religions_2015/textdownloads_files/Confucius%20chp1%262.pdf

Michael Puett and Roger Ames are also good with Chinese thought. Most everything translated by Thomas Cleary is interesting. Some of it gets a little crazy, but it's up to you.
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>>9652680
>Butthurt slant-eyed yokel detected

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Are there any good books where the main character deals with authenticity (mainly becoming aware of ones true desires), overcoming societal influence (mainly peer pressure), being surrounded by toxic people, self actualization?
I feel that most people that I have to deal with on a daily basis wear masks as means of comparing oneself to another in society ("real life" and "social media" persona). This is something I don't want to do myself. Making people aware of their masks, which I try to postpone as long as possible, usually evokes a hatefull response. The result, alienation. I'm taking positive action to improve my situation, in the meantime I'd like to read a book that deals with similar themes. Thanks in advance.
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Catcher in the Rye
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>>9652612
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>>9652612
Thanks for the suggestion, are there similar books with a more mature protagonist? I don't want it to be made cloudy by teenage angst.

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