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I love the epic scope of this book, its Crimean war setting that zooms in on these incredibly tormented yet realistically rendered characters

Pic is the cover of my edition
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Don't know if this would be considered "lesser known," but I don't see it discussed here at all.

Got me through a rough patch of my college years, mostly by highlighting the absurdity of it all.
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>>9664558
he is a wonderful author anon. my favorite chapter was "The Big Investigator"
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>>9664558

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I have discovered the most true understanding of human nature ever, as well as the most necessary course of action to lead to individual and and societal True Happiness. I would like to get across to people that this is so. My ideas will lead to the end of pointless unnecessary destructiveness and excessive suffering.
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Cool story bro
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Goonan you truly have no shame do you? I would have thought that after debasing yourself in the last thread for sympathy purchases and even the slightest hint of attention, you would at least keep up the act, instead of resorting back to your usual mendacious hortatory. You're like a muck covered beggar-boy, on his hands and knees week after week, rattling his cup for change. Your glorified pamphlet is neither worth the $3 you're asking for it, nor the paper it is printed on, nor the time it would take to read it, nor even the synaptic connections required to remember it's name. In the face unanimous derision most have the good sense to either reflect on their pretensions or make themselves scarce.
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The Foundation for Exploration

By: Sean Goonan


Contents

Preface/Introduction 1
Section 1: Welcome to Not Nothing 2
Section 2: Destruction and Building 3
Section 3: Power, Biology and Society 16
Section 4: A World Completely Off the Mark 29


1

Preface

In order to understand what I call "the duality of human nature" you must understand the difference between the words Truth and
truth, Wrong and wrong, and Right and right. Truth, Wrong, and Right are objective understandings of existence, an impossibility
given our current reality. The words truth, wrong, and right are subjective understandings of existence, and they are what we must
work off of. All words capitalized in this book when they should not be reflect their objectivity or more closeness to objectivity
compared to their lowercase counterparts. Objectivity may be the goal, but it is not the key to achieving that goal; subjectivity
is the key. A foundational philosophy based in subjectivity is the key to action. It is how you build and it is how you prevent
things from decaying.

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Why does /lit/ love post-modernism so much?
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Shifts the interest away from literature itself to its use as an instrument for transforming the political and economic systems is very useful to people who are actually too lazy to read books.
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>muh post-modernism
It doesn't and there's been countless threads on this. Search the archives or leave /lit/ please
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>>9664450
>imblying that's all postmodernism is

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1. How to pronounce last name?

2. Is he world's greatest living writer (besides Pinecone?)
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>>9664393
kraz na whore k-eye (like eye with a cuh) e (pronounced like the letter 'e')

so: kraz na whore keye e

thats at least how silverblatt from kcrw pronounces it
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>>9664393
Gass isn't dead
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>>9664402
Awesome, thanks.

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Saw the chemistry thread and saw some good recommendations, but my question is, are there any good geometry books out there that you guys know about?

Some old ancient Greek texts (plato) would be nice to learn along a modern college geometry text (the more rigorous the better) would be appreciated.

This technically falls as starting with the Greeks yeah? Also General STEM books thread if you want to post.
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I feel like you think Plato wrote about geometry, but he didn't. What he was interested in was the proofs. You could get a similar experience from symbolic logic if you don't want to do mathematics. Otherwise any rigorous mathematics would be fine. Back in plato's day the only rigorous mathematics was Euclid's elements (as far as I know), and that was geometry.
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Euclid's Elements has held up surprisingly well over the millennia.
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>>9664263
>Euclid's elements
see yeah i wanted to know if /lit/ knew of other books, i saw this book and supposedly the first volume is plato's work. And yeah plato is the earliest guy i knew to write about geometry.

But if plato wasn't the first to write about geometry then who did? Earlier civilizations?

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had umberto eco and calvino ever, you know,... anything
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>>9664207
bump
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>>9664207
?
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>>9664207
probably.

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Here is a question for you guys, it is a general question but we'll constrain it to literature for the purposes of easier discussion.

Do people avoid literary fiction because it's complex, or abstract, not conducive to immediate gratification, etc, or do they avoid it because the content it deals with is perceived as boring, mundane, nonspectacular,etc?

Here is a rabble-rousing quotation that will hopefully jerk knees from some fool woman time has forgot that Bourdieu once used in an essay to make his position look a little more aloof and considerate.

'In the past, the masses did not have access to art; music, painting, and even books, were pleasures reserved for the rich. It might have been supposed that the poor, the "common people", would have enjoyed them equally, if they had had the chance. But now that everyone can read, go to museums, listen to great music, at least on the radio [lel], the judgment of the masses about things has become a reality and through this it has become clear that great art is not a direct sensuous pleasure. Otherwise, like cookies or cocktails, it would flatter uneducated taste as much as cultured taste.' - Suzanne Langer

Now more than ever we live in a world where one can savour the fruits of the greatest artistic achievement of every epoch, and yet most people content themselves with Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, The Hunger Games, etc. And most of these people are by no means entirely ignorant, they know how to budget, they've been to college and done some piece of shit degree in business administration or computer science that at least demonstrates they are capable of developing their thought in a specific conceptual field. Is it really as simple as saying that literary fiction lies above the majority of these people's abilities? Is it the fault of education and of teachers who have no real passion for the subject for not instilling in young people enough of a lasting impression of great works of literature? Is the content of literary fiction itself an aesthetic dead end, an antiquarian exercise in abstraction now long past its prime?
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literature and 'real art' are hard
requires effort and time
the modern working man has none.
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>>9664206

The most obvious answer is that most people just see it as BORING. Perhaps it is too complex for them, but the feeling when they read it is not "wow, this is so above my intellectual capabilities, I better go with something easier" but rather "wow, this is a whole bunch of nothing". Literary fiction often gives people the impression they are hardly reading a story but rather mundane, repetitive sentences that don't flow from one to the next.

It's kind of like those high-brow movies where the majority of the screentime is metaphors which are meant to show a character's inner emotions and psychosis...They may not get it, but overall they feel like nothing significant is actually happening.
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>>9664206

Is that Benidorm?

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Why do people continue to read philosophy after this book ended it decades ago?
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>>9663932
can't be certain they aren't reading it instead. obvi
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>>9663932
There are idiots who did not read W or interpreted him correctly, and they must be stopped
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>>9663932

philosophy =/= ge moore's epistemology and proof of external world.

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I've been given about 100 blank notebooks, and I really want to do something interesting with them. Any suggestions?
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Why did someone give you that many notebooks?
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start a diary
you can burn through one of those in 3 mos
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>>9663910
>one to practice italics
>one to practice cursive
>one to journal your day
>one to write down random thoughts
>one to write your next book in
>one for short stories
>rewrite your favorite book by hand in one of them
>give the rest away or keep them in storage until you need them

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How do I into theology?
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>>9663832
You walk around it and go straight to phenomenology.
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>>9663853
Who? Sounds like JP, but doesn't look like him.
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>>9663857
anon, that's spurdo spärde

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Hello /lit/

This might be an off-topic question, but it interests me a lot. Has any post that was written on /lit/ board changed your life in significant or insignificant way?

Has it made you challenge yourself, has it made you feel tense and aware about yourself and your place in this world?

Has being here, reading other people's posts and answering(or not answering) them made you feel in some, maybe even a little way, connected to them?

If so, do you think that time you spend here day after day is worth it? Or it's not that big of a deal?
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>>9663751
No. I don't think I've ever felt like that.

My time here is wasted, but that doesn't matter since I wouldn't do anything productive anyway.
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>>9663796
Have you tried making your stay here productive for yourself though?
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>>9663796
>this

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who would be worse to have a module under? who's worst for self-masturbatory political ramblings? who has the most insufferable following?

as far I can tell Chomsky although he does very little can be watched just from an academic understanding of his field without grasping at straws to illustrate how important hs political opinions are, but I've only seen one or two linguistics videos from him
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>>9663745
Chomsky is the most insufferable faggot alive.

>muh (((white))) guilt america is the worst place alive oy vey we inventyed might is right in the 20th century
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>>9663745
>who has the most insufferable following?

Chomsky

it's not even a contest
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>>9663756
all political opinions are insufferable, just because Jordan Peterson's right about SJWs doesn't make it not the most pathetic pandering circlejerk there is.

>>9663757
I know 2 people who read Chomsky and I've only ever talked about him with them when I brought him up. I've had someone unironically spout the "clean your room" advice in class and it was pure cringe. Peterson fags think they've got an amazing understanding of human behaviour and how to be a successful person that reminds me of first year business students

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What's your favourite book?
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Crime and Punishment
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Adios America
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My Immortal

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Is there any novel more WASP than this?
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no, that's why it's so good.
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Lit isn't even going to call me a plebs faggot and describe DFW's superior material.

The times are a changing.
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>>9663734
Well, there's A Handful of Dust and all the Wodehouse novels, but this will do fine as an exemplar of our superior culture.

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Thoughts on this man?
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Is this supposed to be a new thread?
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>>9663701

I like him. He's the final bastion of defending literature. Though it could be too much too late.
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he's a eulogy for literature in human form

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