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Read this a few months ago and really enjoyed it. It was a nice, short change of pace from the denser stuff I usually read. It was kind of neat reading something that clearly wasn't written for me, and it was even more interesting getting a glimpse into Herzog's brain, who I'm convinced is the most mythological man alive today
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Forgot to ask, has anyone else read it? Any thoughts? Thoughts on Herzog in general?
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Yeah I read it too. It was diary tier obviously, but still interesting to read his thoughts.
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Have you read Conquest of the Useless?

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my life has become day in, day out monotony. there are a handful of things that give me healthy enjoyment, but the majority of the week I'm bored and depressed and aimless. how do I get out of this cycle of ennui? I want to read and work on creative projects more, but even that is hard to do.

help me get out of this rut, /lit/
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>help me get out of this rut, /lit/
I would but I'm in the same situation.
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>>10015151
it's not very fun
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Read Marxist literature.

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>fucking white male
>big sword
>mysterious circumstances

Is it worth reading? Does it transcend the fantasy genre?
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>>10014671

It's pretty Kafkaesque in later parts when Severian is doing pointless chores in Thrax.
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>>10014671
It's sci-fi, you mongoloid
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Depends how deeply you want to read into it and/or credit Gene Wolfe with what you find.

Thomas Pynchon has finally passed away. I am in complete shock.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/arts/irwin-corey-comedian-and-foremost-authority-dies-at-102.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

Let's have a Pynchon remembrance thread. Dump anything you got
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fake and gay
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It took six months for this page to load for you?
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I don't get it

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>/lit/ hates Kerouac even though their hero Pynchon calls him one of the greats
>/lit/ hates Gaiman even though he's besties with their hero Moore
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>>10014586
moore is a faggot but a decent author but gaiman is a hack

i have no problem with kerouac, really.
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>OP thinks there's any real sort of /lit/ consensus beyond who happens to be online at the time and for some reason should be logical about it
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</lit/ hates suckings cock but still sucks cock

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What's /lit/'s thoughts on Ernesto Sabato?
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>>10014537
You don't often see a Mexican in a sweater.
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>>10014537
Lameass one trick pony who lived his life hanging off of the tits of more talented men like Borges and Bioy Casares; wrote one good book and then proceeded to write it again and again for fifty years. Only teenage girls who think they're too intellectual to read Coelho care for him.
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>>10014537
One of my favourite authors actually. I try to bring it up here often.
>>10014609
How can you even think this? How is El túnel any similar to Abbadón el exterminador? you are just spouting shit. He is one of the greatest genius of literature in spanish. Maybe you're butthurt because he attacked Borges in one of his books?

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how do I start writing poetry? I enjoy reading it, but feel too overwhelmed by the depth and complexity of it to start writing. what are some good resources for me?
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Falling in love with a dame is probably your best bet. The poetry will naturally just flow out.
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writing is just guided dreaming
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>>10014396
fall in love with God and Life instead, it gets better results

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is he correct about postmodernism?
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>dude the exact same neocon garbage as always except I replace "leftist" withi "postmodernist" and brainlets eat it up like I'm some kind of revolutionary lmao
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No

He;s correct about some other things though

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So I wrote a novel and asked my mummy to read it.

She finished it yesterday evening but avoided for a while until I asked her what was wrong. She started crying and said the depiction of the protagonist's mother in the book is very harsh and she hopes it wasn't intended to hurt her. I told her it wasn't based on her, but I guess since the protagonist is literally me but more mysterious and so on she must have made that mistake. For example in the book the mother of the protagonist is described in one scene as a "used-up fifty-something slut" and in a piece of dialogue between the protagonist and one of his two girlfriend's he basically articulates at length why boys shouldn't be raised by a single mother (as I was). I'm not sure how to react to this and whether to change anything in the book for her sake? Any advice?
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>used-up fifty-something slut
easy on the edges
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>>10014303
Write a mother son sex scene where the son praises her for her tight pussy and amazing skill at fellatio.
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poor attempt at imitating pessoa-chan. Refine your style and try again.

Are there any books that deals with the loss of childhood crushed by the rude reality that you may not acomplish your child dreams but you're destined for some slavewage shit job and maybe you're glad you have one in the current capitalism system that is going to crash?
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>>10014301
How the fuck does a poverty slave even work?
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>>10014325
A poverty slave is just your average American.
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>>10014301
>that is going to crash
Says increasingly hungry Marxist for the 150th year in a row.

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Looking for friends who are also into it... im a lit major in Germany where they're pretty big on this stuff but as far as I can tell none of the ppl in my courses give too much of a shit about it.. I love it and am obsessed.. if ur not familiar with it this is like the stanford encyclopedia for the "discipline" www.lhn.uni-hamburg.de/contents . Can anyone studying in the US tell me if its widely studied there or not?
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>>10014282
it usually gets brought up in intro/survey courses, with the odd specialist here or there, but it's not a majorly popular/prevalent school of theory at the cutting edge
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>>10014297
Thx thats interesting, wonder why…I think maybe here and elsewhere in Europe they're really sold on the scientific mission it has but I can imagine that'd be kind of suspicious or not as preferable as speculative/continental stuff?
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>>10014282
I am a pleb. Care to give a quick summary of narratology for me?

The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto-sophisticating machine runaway. As markets learn to manufacture intelligence, politics modernizes, upgrades paranoia, and tries to get a grip.
The body count climbs through a series of globewars. Emergent Planetary Commercium trashes the Holy Roman Empire, the Napoleonic Continental System, the Second and Third Reich, and the Soviet International, cranking-up world disorder through compressing phases. Deregulation and the state arms-race each other into cyberspace.

By the time soft-engineering slithers out of its box into yours, human security is lurching into crisis. Cloning, lateral genodata transfer, transversal replication, and cyberotics, flood in amongst a relapse onto bacterial sex.

Neo-China arrives from the future.

Hypersynthetic drugs click into digital voodoo.

Retro-disease.

Nanospasm.
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I want to fuck Motoko's cybernetically enhanced pussy.
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sounds cyberpunk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiaWsgtJrNI

http://www.ccru.net/swarm1/1_melt.htm

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I was re-watching The Grand Hotel Budapest last night, and I must say that M. Gustave is indeed one of the best recently created characters I know off. I would love to have written a play with such character on it.

M. Gustave: You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity. Indeed that's what we provide in our own modest, humble, insignificant... oh, fuck it.
(…)
M. Gustave: I must say, I find that girl utterly delightful. Flat as a board, enormous birthmark the shape of Mexico over half her face, sweating for hours on end in that sweltering kitchen, while Mendl, genius though he is, looms over her like a hulking gorilla. Yet without question, without fail, always and invariably, she's exceedingly lovely.
(…)
Zero: What happened?
M. Gustave: What happened, my dear Zero, is I beat the living shit out of a sniveling little runt called Pinky Bandinski, who had the gall to question my virility. Because, if there's one thing we've learned from penny dreadfuls, it's that when you find yourself in a place like this, you must never be a candy ass; you've got to prove yourself from day one. You've got to win their respect. You should take a long look at HIS ugly mug this morning.
[Takes a sip of water and laughs]
M. Gustave: He's actually become a dear friend.
(…)
M. Gustave: [to Mme. Celine's corpse] You're looking so well, darling, you really are... they've done a marvelous job. I don't know what sort of cream they've put on you down at the morgue, but... I want some.
(...)
M. Gustave: Rudeness is merely an expression of fear. People fear they won't get what they want. The most dreadful and unattractive person only needs to be loved, and they will open up like a flower.
(…)
M. Gustave: [Of Mme. Celine] She was dynamite in the sack, by the way.
Zero: ...She was 84, Monsieur Gustave.
M. Gustave: Mmm, I've had older. When you're young, it's all filet steak, but as the years go by, you have to move on to the cheap cuts. Which is fine with me, because I like those. More flavorful, or so they say.
(…)
M. Gustave: It's quite a thing, winning the loyalty of a woman like that for nineteen consecutive seasons.
Zero: Um... yes, sir.
M. Gustave: She's very fond of me, you know.
Zero: Yes, sir.
M. Gustave: I've never seen her like that before.
Zero: No, sir.
M. Gustave: She was shaking like a shitting dog.
Zero: ...Truly.
(…)
M. Gustave: [Gustave and Zero are examining "Boy With Apple" in Dmitri's study] This is van Hoytl's exquisite portrayal of a beautiful boy on the cusp of manhood. Blond, smooth skin as white as that milk, of impeccable provenance. One of the last in private hands, and unquestionably the best. It's a masterpiece. The rest of this shit is worthless junk.
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Apparently he's based on the real life Stefan Zweig, whose books the movie was based on
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>>10014241

I heard about that. Stefan Zweig died on the country where I live, Brazil. He committed suicide because of the political scene in Europe during the Second World War: it was simply too depressing to him.

If he managed to keep on going, he would ultimately have to face once again crimes against free thought and liberty, for in 1964 Brazil suffered a military coup d'etat.

And now Brazil is again facing the surging of legislation by the hands of religious and far-right groups in the congress and a desire to impose neoliberalism on a country already plagued by one of the largest abysses in income equality on the planet. I am depressed by the situation of my country, so I can only imagine what Zweig felt by seeing the Nazis killing millions based in nothing but ideology and with multitudes being played like cattle, even in some of the most cultured European nations. Not to mention the horrors of the communist regime.

I wonder what Zweig writings were used in the composition of the film script.
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>>10014218
I get that. That was a fun movie. I go a big rubbery one for Wes Anderson's style.

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Current list of books I'm planning to read

Any good recommendations to add to it?
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I recommend you stop listing and start reading
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>>10014204
you forget infinite jest.
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>reading for the sake of learning
how can someone be this insecure

What are some books about anxious young men who live with their mothers and have poor career prospects?

Asking for a friend.
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Unironically, my diary desu
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Coriolanus lived with his mother, nothing wrong with loving your mom
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>>10014164
Confederacy of Dunces

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