Any other tradesmen on /lit/ ? There is not a lot of literature that centers on our kind but I do like the occasional mention. I found it really funny how the painters in Crime and Punishment were kind of a farcical interruption into Raskolnikov's plans. We do occupy a social position just on the liminal edge and tend to rudely emerge in some time of minor crisis. Anyway curious about this demographic question and also curious if there is any tradey /lit/ I don't know about.
>>9649204
I climb oil rigs and labour on railways in my downtime. Like to read about working hard. Some authors seem to get it. Cormac Mccarthy is the man.
What should I know before reading War and Peace? Is it important to know the historical background? Any insight would be appreciated.
If you're looking for pure enjoyment, the less knowledge you have, the happier you will be. If you want to know the outcomes historical events beforehand to see how Tolstoy interprets them differently (though keep in mind its historical fiction, but none of the events themselves have been altered, just unique characters added), do some research on the Napoleonic Wars, religion, and serfdom in Russia during the early 1800s. And this is just a personal tidbit here, though Tolstoy attempts to discredit Napoleon several times in W&P, in my opinion it makes him all the more credible, as he is after all, France's greatest finished masterpiece.
What does /lit/ think of pic related?
Holy shit, I forgot I read this book, it's been almost 10 years. Even though I don't remember it all, it was a fantastic read, I love it. Specially because at the time I was such a strictly rational person and this, along with many other things, helped me opened my mind.
There are some slow moments though, when he goes too specifically about the situation of the Church at the time. But it's great to see that at all times and even from inside what we think as conservative institutions such as the Church, there are people like Erasmus. It's very funny to read him bashing on the pathetic discussions priests were having about which color of robe is more suiting to God and stuff like that.
>>9649164
What's with that cover? It looks like a jester seducing his own giant penis that has a face. Now that's folly!
>>9650489
Sup, guys and gals. I would be appreciate if anybody gave me link or the full itself: "Stay where you are and ten leave" by John Boyne. Want to read it but can't buy it in my country. So, help, please.
Sincerely, yours...
*then
Actually, let this thread be also for discussing Boyne's books. My favorite is "The Absolutist", touched me a lot and that was surprising because I don't really like anything about war. Not because I'm afraid of it or it hurts me but I had found it boring before. But this book was impressive because of two things: it made me fell how war and people are unfair and it also has main character gay that is close to me, ya know. So, maybe it is not common but I felt a lot reading this story, I liked the way Boyne writes and I remain impressed even though it's been a couple of years since I've finished reading it. Idk what else to say, just bumping the thread
Is the Tao Te Ching the most beautiful work of literature ever written?
>>9649049
In the middle of reading it right now. I'm really enjoying the experience.
It's only useful in fully appreciating the greatness of ChuangTzu.
>>9649049
>Is the Tao Te Ching the most beautiful work of literature ever written?
No. Dream of the Red Chamber, please.
What's some good /lit/ that explores the subject of empathy?Or tell me what empathy is and isn't, /lit/. What it consists of and entails.
Is it even possible to become a great writer without being an enneagram type 4?
>>9648967
scientologist pls go
>>9648967
If you read up on it, you'll actually find that no one gives a shit about enneagrams or types at all, anywhere.
>Some of the soldiers were more impressed by Lenin, others by Stalin, just as some of the peasants spoke more often about God the Father and others about God the Son.
mfw
It was a dark and cloudy day. The mailman had just delivered all the mail to the people. Yum HE tought, it will be good with ice cream. Then HE went. Then HE was happy. But then HE came in the door and he oh noed. Oh haha oh noed said HE! Then it was bad. Then the couch and he cried and he cried obviously. And bohohooo. But THEN the ice cream was all under the sofa seat all allong. Then HE said YES OK and delivered some more mail. It was an endless nevernding chain of mailgiving and HE was and HE went. Then the days went passed like nothing would have happened. It was almost like HE just barely couldnt see. But oh no what a day it was. Mrs johnson already HAD watered HER flower and it was time to give in the towel. Fidget spin spin spin! The spins rustled in the leafs. HE sensed something bad was coming. HE delivered mail now in a faster pace than noone and nobody could have ever imagin it was a neverending spiraling loop that could not be stopperd. JUST HAVE TO DELIVER MAIL JUST HAVE TO DELIVER MAIL was HIS toughts. The spiral can not be broken, the spiral must not be crushed. And its ok to cry. So he threw in the towel for the last time.
I like all of this.
Alright, time to write a modern prose poem. Was assigned this in a creative writing class and the results were pretty cool/interesting. Here's the assignment. Read Ron Silliman's poem "Albany", about his time as a boy/young man in Albany, CA (next to Berkeley) during the 1960's. Here's the link:
https://m.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/albany
Now write an Albany of your own in the same style as Silliman. Title it the name of whatever town or city you grew up in or spent a significant amount of time in. Since we are on 4chan, for the sake of readability, let's try yo keep it to half a page single spaced on Word.
Note Silliman's use of hyper-specific, concrete imagery mixed with musings, political observations and coloquial phrases. Use the same blocky prose format. Best of luck. Look forward to seeing your poems and learning more about you all and how you see the world.
It's just a pastiche of musings forgive me for not having a Peggy Hill image for this post.
None of the images are concrete. They are bland however.
what exactly is poetic about this? it reads like a typical forum post.
>unironically being a determinist
please just stop. you can dress it up in as much post-modern post-structuralist wank that you want, but we are all of us beholden to our own decisions. free will exists, you need the constitution to wield it.
>>9648682
Why blame determinism on muh p-postmodernism when it's roots run much deeper?
>>9648685
a subcategory of deterministic ideas are still deterministic ideas.
>>9648682
>determinism is a postmodern phenomenon
i don't think you know what your words mean, OP
Please explain to me why I should bother reading radicalist propaganda.
i cant because theres no reason to willingly engage with radical beside wanting to be converted
If you're not decently familiar with Marxism, why would you read that?
>>9648651
Please don't start with this book. Also, Marcuse criticizes capitalist as well as communist countries, so maybe not the best example? Not that "cultural marxist" spouting /pol/tards are aware of this...
In response to your question, why bother reading any philosophy? To engage with the ideas. If you are too lazy to do this, then you shouldn't bother reading it.
Did you know target sells books?
Funnily enough my local Target has Rupi's book of """poetry""" front and center. Every time that my gf and I are there I walk past it and rage silently. No I don't have 'tism.
>>9648640
I don't see any books. I see only rubbish and Liberal propadanga.
>target
Why would I give Dayton even a cent of my money willingly?
Should I get the Burton or Lyons translation of the Arabian Nights?
>>9648558
Bumping because I too want to know which one has the juiciest naughty bits.
Burton, with notes
What's your favourite work from a foreign country?
>>9648513
M A C B E T H
t. Amerifat
>>9648513
Teatro Grottesco
t. poortunigger
I am a human, I have no country, I have no race, I have no gender.
I am a human and we are all humans, you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to divide us with you artificial borders and identities.