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>Just why Mr. Frodo was selling his beautiful hole was even more debatable than the price.

What did John mean by this?
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A Baggins has lived in Bag End for time out of mind,so selling it would be an earth shaking happening in a timeless land like the Shire.
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>>9670541
Why didn't he just hide the ring in his hole?
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>>9670562
The sphincter's tight. If the walls of his rectum clinched closed enough to touch each other through the ring would he go invisible?

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Stay on this board and post in as many threads as possible if any one of these apply to you:

>you read any form of genre fiction
>you barely know your classics
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
>you speak a single language
>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
>you read for the plot
>you read for entertainment
>you rarely read nonfiction
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
>you don't have at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon
>you mostly read contemporary literature
>you believe 'the author is dead'
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
>your rarely read poetry
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight
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What is literary merit? I used to think it was about how well a piece explores the human condition but then someone told me that was wrong. How would you define and explain it?
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>how well a piece explores the human condition
Well that's obviously not it. A work that doesn't even touch the human condition can still have literary merit.

I'd say literary merit is like porn: it's not easy to define in an all-inclusive manner, but you know it when you see it.
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>>9670484
>I'd say literary merit is like porn: it's not easy to define in an all-inclusive manner
Well a good descriptor of porn is that it was made with the intention of arousal. This is different to something like fetishism where something oridinary was elevated to such a status.

>A work that doesn't even touch the human condition can still have literary merit
>but you know it when you see it

Do you know any good examples? And why?

I thought it was a elephant for months
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>>9670368
The only reason anyone cares even remotely for this book is because pynchon's buddy wrote it. Pure nepotism.
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>>9670424
It's a fun read though?
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>>9670424
Can you still call it nepotism when the writer died before the book got published?

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Just applied for Psychology courses. Any Lit to get me prepared for classes?
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Ask your teachers, browse the library.

Jesus in what manner of shithole do you live?
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>>9670329
You're welcome. But, I live in a secluded area and am doing online classes. So....
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>>9670338
Go on amazon, pick a well rated textbook on the topic.
Repeat until reading textbook on the topic is becoming boring and predictable.

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I want to get into the writing of this man. What book should I start with?
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Lee las ficciones después el aleph.
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>>9670309
Start with his first, like you would any author
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>>9670317
Do people seriously do this?

Leave this board and never return if any one of these apply to you:

>you read any form of genre fiction
>you barely know your classics
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
>you speak a single language
>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
>you read for the plot
>you read for entertainment
>you rarely read nonfiction
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
>you don't have at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon
>you mostly read contemporary literature
>you believe 'the author is dead'
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
>your rarely read poetry
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight

What are you reading?
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a biology textbook
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I want to fuck Novalis tight ass while tugging at his lush locks.

I have a date /lit/. Recommend me some cute books about love without all of the annoying fatalism. Is Jakob von Gunten a good idea? It isn't about love but seems to hit that nostalgic idealism that I crave right now.
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Waaay to early to be thinking about love. I feel for you OP, I was as naive as you once. If you must read something, go with something that will encourage your own manliness and self-reliance. That could actually help make you more attractive to a girl, whereas filling your head with ideas of romance and ideal love will just make you more beta. Hemingway perhaps, or Cormac McCarthy come to mind.
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>>9670337
dude she asked me out. I'm thinking more along the lines of Rilke or Shakespeare's sonnets.
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>>9670280

>that nostalgic idealism that I crave

I hope you're keeping this idealism exclusively in the realm of fiction and not projecting it onto potential partners irl, because that won't end very well for you.

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What does /lit/ think of Wuthering Heights? I first read it back in high school and at the time I was going through a lot of issues surrounding relationships so I really related to Heathcliff, but I'm curious as to what the rest of you think. Might reread it soon since I have some extra time this summer.
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It's one of those books o found really boring while I was reading it, but it's really stuck with me since I finished it. Definitely worth rereading.

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Hi, I'm Newt Gingrich.

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President Trump is different from any political leader we’ve seen in the presidency – at least since Andrew Jackson (1828-36). As a result, reporters and those in the elite political class literally have no idea how to understand him. Each day, they are faced with a president who doesn’t fit the norms of politics as usual, and their persistent instinct has been to attack.
I have watched this hostility since then-candidate Trump announced his bid for the presidency at Trump Tower nearly two years ago on June 16, 2015. It is a major reason why I decided to write Understanding Trump, which was released yesterday.

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This book is for those fighting to repel the elite media offensive and those who want to know how they can better help President Trump drain the swamp and steer our country toward a much brighter, more prosperous future.
Finally, I wrote this book to help the millions of Americans who elected President Trump to understand him, as I understand him – as an incredibly smart, successful, passionate leader, who loves this country and sincerely wants to make it great again.
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is it bad that I read it in his voice?
I think I watch too much C-SPAN
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>>9670179
How come he has such a happy babies face?
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Fuck off newt the grinch

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Just diving through spinoza's writting and i'm hooked, what should I read next ?
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If you've read the bible read his theological tractat if you haven't already, it's funny and thought-provoking
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>>9670174
Did you read everything he wrote?

It depends on what you're interested in and how much philosophy you read in general. Nietzsche considered Spinoza his precursor so maybe continue with him. Or maybe read Deleuze's two books on Spinoza, then read Deleuze's Nietzsche and Philosophy and inevitably become a Deleuzian.

I would like to read about opportunism. It can be just a story, history book or w/e. For example there was a chapter with an old italian in Catch 22. I would love to read more of its kind
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I kinda like the end of Infinite Jest where Gene Fackelman tries to get over on Whitey Sorkin using inside gambling information.

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I've read it multiple times, but I rarely employ the strategies it advises, at least on paper. It's kind of like the procrastinator's dream book in a way -- you're essentially reading about reading, which becomes a handy excuse for delaying that book binge you have planned for the summer. I'm split on the book's material. On one hand, I want to say how insightful it can be when describing how the author and the reader interact, and how information is presented and absorbed. On the other hand, I can't help but think this is all just an extremely long-winded way of saying "pay attention".

You will have undoubtedly learned about some of the strategies in the book back in grade-school (assuming your district was worth anything). But, if you enjoy reading, or you enjoy reading about reading, or you're just curious about the process itself and would like to learn just how in depth a text can be analyzed, and are willing to employ time intensive strategies that aren't supported by scientific evidence to improve your comprehension, critical thinking, or meta cognition, I'd recommend getting it.
If you want a true overview of the book, here: http://faculty.tcu.edu/grant/30643/HOWTOREADABOOK.PDF

That all said, the strategies that Adler presents will only apply to the most dedicated (and faithful), but for the rest of us it will most likely have the same fate (not the book, but the ideas in it) as encyclopedias and most other large book sets; they make you look smart and look good on the shelf, but as for utility... they're probably going to remain there.
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>>9670153
> delaying that book binge you have planned for the summer.

more like how to read /lit/, amirite
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lol i literally could not have even imagined a more boring waste of time. Do you any sort of will or imagination?
I assume you are probably a tremendously boring person.
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>>9670177
Not much imagination, no, and yes I am an incredibly boring person.

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How should I start with Proust?
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I found reading the first one first helped
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uh, wtf is up with the font for the volume numbers? who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
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>>9670113
Du Cote de Chez Swann

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I want to hurt people's feelings. I want to learn about it. I want to be the best.

can /lit/ recommend me any material or advice on this?
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Just stick around, you'll get the hang of it
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>>9670114
no, I won't. the level of this place is entirely insufficient.
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have you read my diary
desu!

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