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>tfw you wanted to read The Whale, but you got Moby-Dick instead

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>>9676785
I thought they were the same thing?

Bump please help

>>9676727
Just say it isn't your thing. You and I may know that literature is objective, but there's no need to establish that with the normies

>>9676733
this.
Hide your power level. Your fantasies about going on an eloquent and inspiring rant about the beauty of literature and the inferiority of YA that will make the chads worship you for your brilliance and the stacies submit to your intellectual dominance is not going to happen. They will just think you are weird or "pretentious." Don't even attempt to convert them, it's just autistic and will make you look and feel retarded.

>>9676727
>talking to girls about literature
well, let's just stop short there. don't do that. second, you can just simply say you have different interests.if they ask, say you like certain styles or themes that aren't explored as well in most genre fiction. so, someone asks, "do you like douglas adams?" you reply with "science fiction is nice, but i prefer to read about <insert themes from a current book here>". then you ask them what they like about douglas adams, because that's probably why they brought up the topic in the first place. always divert a conversation in such a way that the other person can talk about themselves. easiest thing to do when speaking to someone you don't particularly care about, or want to get something from.

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>>9676702

>>9676702
Wealth of Nations, then Kapital, then Capital in the Twenty-First Century.

>>9676702
>economics beyond surface-level (history, different systems, et al).
well if you take out the human element, it's math.

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There are annotated bibliographies made by scholars for these things but your ilk would never know

>>9676697
needs more strabo, caesar's civil wars, and if you want to go modern, instead of Rome, get L'Annalistique romaine by Chassignet.
some of the propaganda you could be better off with Ennius.

also, really, hbo rome? read the satyricon instead. decline and fall by gibbons should be there too

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>>9676697
>excluding Apuleius

yeah that's pretty much it

>>9676587
You'd have to read the other writers of the time to see why it was important. He paved the way for obscene writing.

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>>9676587
there isn't an over-arching plot, it's a series of scenes. He also used a lot of cut-up collage techniques.

Take in the mood, feel disgust at the modern world. If you don't know a word, look it up silly!

Consider this interpretation of Burroughs from Lemurian Time War, an essay in the CCRU archive

>In the hyperstitional model Kaye outlined, fiction is not opposed to the real. Rather, reality is understood to be composed of fictions – consistent semiotic terrains that condition perceptual, affective and behavioral responses. Kaye considered Burroughs’ work to be ‘exemplary of hyperstitional practice’. Burroughs construed writing – and art in general – not aesthetically, but functionally, – that is to say, magically, with magic defined as the use of signs to produce changes in reality.

>It was then that Burroughs’s writing underwent a radical shift in direction, with the introduction of experimental techniques whose sole purpose was to escape the bonds of the already-written, charting a flight from destiny. Gysin’s role in the discovery of these cut-ups and fold ins is well-known, but Kaye’s story accounts for the special urgency with which Burroughs began deploying these new methods in late 1958. The cut-ups and fold-ins were “innovative time-war tactics”, the function of which was to subvert the foundations of the prerecorded universe. “Cut the Word Lines with scissors or switchblades as preferred ... The Word Lines keep you in time...” (WV 270). Burroughs’s adoption of these techniques was, Kaye told Ccru, “one of the first effects (if one may be permitted to speak in so loose a way) of the time-trauma”.

We just had this discussion. Read them both, read Cicero, and then sort of side with the Stoics.

lol what are these old statues about
one looks like my grandpa

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>>9676580
Both reddit tier and at least one a literal cuckold

Damn dude, you lost your chance. You'll never get another opportunity to read.

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>>9676574
>implying I'll ever be able to study Theatre from Classical Greece to Naturalism without having prejudices and misconceptions as a result of my non-linear and muddled education

>>9676570
If only it were possible to study history, theater, literature, and art on your own. Unfortunately, it's literally impossible to study these subjects on your own and you just need to accept that you're a pleb. Sorry mate.

Can't I'm reading War and Peace at the moment.

>ywn live in a time when the calander was a profession of festivals, feasts and fasts
>ywn completely believe in the supernatural the way a medieval peasant did

>>9676561
*procession
Why does autocorrect replace correct words for other incorrect words??

I saw much ado last night, does that count?

>>9676510
>How do I transition into being a schedule based writer where I start and finish works based on a schedule so I can actually start making a living as a writer?

get a job writing

Try to have a modicum of the fucking discipline your pot-smoking two-car-garage parents failed to instill in you.

>>9676510
Detach yourself from the pieces you wish to make your living off of. No large work is written off of pure inspiration. You get some inspiration, get a start, then run with it. Outlines help big time if you run off inspiration. This way you know the essentials of what you want and then during times where you're feeling inspired you can fill in the gaps. But that's still not efficient enough to make a living from it. Wet your feet in some pisswater first before you want to swim in the ocean.

>>9676485
yes it's fantastic, it's dense and super erudite, it has all the noise of what art is forced to look like in the twentieth century, it skirts around virtually every ideology religious or philisophical, and it's written with a lot of deliberate care

>>9676485
I'm Irish and I think a significant amount of its spirit is lost on foreigners

What edition should I get?

I heard some publishings had problems or errors?

>>9676436
>Audiobooks

Kys faggot

>>9676503
Rude.

>>9676436
I never understood the appeal of audiobooks. You're just following someone else's tone and someone else's rhythm, gets really monotonous.

Robert Brenner is currently writing something on how capitalism is regressing into feudalism thanks to rootless finance capital aligning with crony politicians

>>9676376
no, that story sounds self-important, boring, and the worst of all: completely normal. might as well read about the weather or how to make a sandwich.

nice blogpost.

>>9676376
you think you can write that book, want to write a book together?

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>>9676361
I like the one that has The Tempest in it. Some are more partial to the Othello one and I can see why. Of course the King Lear one isn't bad either.

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>>9676361
I wouldn't know, but looking for such a book I came across pic related and it seems to be working for me.

>>9676431
>The Oxford "We Edited The Plays To Be Like We Think They Were Originally Performed And Took Out Lots of Important Bits, Relegating Them To Appendices" ""Complete Works"" of Shakespeare
Good choice anon.

somewhere in between /mu/ and /lit/

sure, i think
I enjoy listening and reading at the same time, helps speed up reading actually.

>>9676295
its not /mu/ what the fuck

>>9676292
yes, of course they are.

>>9676085
The Decameron is boring

>>9676106
Is it? I heard it was supposed to be funny

rate mine but no pics:
Homer - The ILiad
Plato's Works vol.1 - H.F. Cary
Sophocles - The Three Theban Plays
Chaucer - The Canterbury Tales

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