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here's my P R I M E collection

haven't read a few
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Terrible bait
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>>9686312
not even bait senpai
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>>9686257
what the literal fuck, the only book worth a shit here is The Odyssey

anon, is this your first time visiting /lit/ and you just thought you would showcase all the books you own no matter what thinking it'd be impressive? what is going on, it's a genuine book collection for somebody who doesn't read books

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Is this the best edition of Gravity's Rainbow?
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>>9685989
yep.
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>>9685989
It's the best but there are still several errors. Pynchon himself will be rereleasing GR completely reedited including 58 never before seen pages of prose and a massive 246 page addendum filled with DFW-esqe footnotes.

/lit/ has been pretty excited about it in case you haven't noticed
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>>9686003
what? this isn't true

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What's the best literary works to get in touch with my feminine side?
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If you're asking that, you're already more than enough in touch with it. In fact, that would count as molestation in some countries.
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tolstoy
mishima
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>>9685713
Anything. Reading us inherently effeminate

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What does /lit/ think of Norton Critical Editions? Do footnotes ruin the flow of the text and are in turn detrimental to the reading experience? Or are they necessary in such works as the Sound and the Fury, Dubliners, and Moby Dick?
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Wish i had fucking footnotes when i read The Sound and the Fury
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>>9684988
>What does /lit/ think of Norton Critical Editions?
They're generally pretty good. Sometimes the critical essays and the other surrounding content they give is really fucking awful though. Although, sometimes it's great, really depends on the book.

>Do footnotes ruin the flow of the text and are in turn detrimental to the reading experience?
No. They're a much better alternative to end notes, unless you're fucking Arden Shakespeare level with them where 90% of the page is footnotes.

>are they necessary in such works as Moby Dick
No.
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If you don't want to ruin the flow don't look to the footnote every time one pops up. I will typically read a section, then read the footnotes of that section while my memory is still fresh enough to know what they're referring to, so that reading the footnotes isn't disruptive to the flow at all, but something I look forward to upon reaching a natural break in the text, giving not only extra information, but forcing me to pause and consider again what I've read.

I am diagnosed with crippling depression. Suggest me some books to read.
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>>9684426
Moby Dick
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Your diary desu
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>>9684426

La Nausée

That or go out for a run. get that dopamine pumping .

Thoughts?
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>>9684120
Seems like a meme.

I haven't read it though and my grasp of what the thing is even about is very loose
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>>9684120
On my list to read
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>>9684156
WHAT ABOUT THIS

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Isn't the teleological suspension of the ethical kind of a fucked up idea? I pretty much agree with Kierkegaard about resignation and absurdity and faith being unexplainable but I just can't really digest this idea that the ends justify the means religiously, I mean I understand that in the context of Abraham's story but I don't understand why Kierkegaard would prescribe people to accept that the ends justify the means in order to live the "highest" life possible. Can someone help me understand this?
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One of the many reasons Gnosticism supersedes Christianity if given enough thought.
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>>9684100
>I mean I understand that in the context of Abraham's story but I don't understand why Kierkegaard would prescribe people to accept that the ends justify the means in order to live the "highest" life possible.
You're still viewing it from an ethical perspective and not a religious one
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>>9684169
Can you frame it in a religious perspective then?

So, any other life affirming philosophical essay like this bad boi?
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>>9683968
>life affirming
I see this term being posted a lot here, what do you guys mean with that?
Also why should I read this book?
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>>9683968
>The Fountainhead. Atlas Shrugged.

Unironically. Radically Empowering
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>>9685175
>reading anything by ayn rand
>not being an insufferably spooky faggot
pick one my friend

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>constantly get told to "start with the greeks"
>finally read Plato
>he's a dumbass

Explain yourselves
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>>9683780
Your start with the ionians not the athenians
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>>9683788
No you start with the Egyptians
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>>9683780
>wants to learn chemistry
>reads alchemy

start with Quine

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>age
>location
>current book you're reading, etc., etc.
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same book as the last one mate give it a day or two at least
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21, Philadelphia, American Pastoral and The Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy
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>>9680378
22,Romania,Plumb by George Bacovia.

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Poetry, narrative, philosophy, politics, sense, nonsense, experimentation.

I need some crazy geniuses
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>>9679878
>edit
no
>tell you its shit
yes
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>>9680069
thankful someone has responded, are you an excellently great epic supremely significantly special important writer? are you very skilled and talented and incredible, in the areas of poetry, philosophy, politics? can you be something of the voice of the generations?
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>>9680181
>can you offer me trappings?
sure

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Is Paul Graham right?

>What philosophy books would you recommend?

>I can't think of any I'd recommend. What I learned from trying to study philosophy is that the place to look is in other fields. If you understand math or history or aeronautical engineering very well, the most abstract of the things you know are what philosophy is supposed to be teaching. Books on philosophy per se are either highly technical stuff that doesn't matter much, or vague concatenations of abstractions their own authors didn't fully understand (e.g. Hegel).

>It can be interesting to study ancient philosophy, but more as a kind of accident report than to teach you anything useful.
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>>9676787
>anlgo-cucks still feeling uneasy about philosophy decades after they are a global Hegemon

It speaks volumes of the positivists and STEMfag ideology of the anglo trash that even now Cambridge has a school of hegelians that are pushing post-metaphysical reading of Hegel. How salty and concerned can you get.
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>>9676801
That isn't something we should be proud of though, most continental philosophy in academia isn't happening in the philosophy department but rather in the cultural studies department.

And Cambridge has always had a school of Hegelians, what the fuck are you talking about.
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Did the Harry Potter phenomenon actually contribute to long-term literacy? Will we see a generation of literature influenced by the boy wizard?
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>>9676496
>literacy
Hardly. I read harry potter in first grade. It doesn't really teach people much about the english language.
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>>9676496
It's not the literacy but rather the values and dumbass sentimentality that the book promotes. That quote being a fine example.

>muh choices

pure fuckin ideology
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>>9676496
being right is usually easy tho
being evil is fucking hard work
those evil henchmen don't just brainwash themselves ya know

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Making a thread because I don't see one here.

Haven't even started yet desu edition, kek. But I've read it before and hope to get caught up by tonight/early tomorrow.

Anons that aren't giant faggots like OP should be finishing Chapter 33 today.

General question to maybe get discussion going: Moby Dick is obviously famous for being a dense work, and by this point in time we should probably have a good feel of Melville's prose. Are we starting to get a hang for it, or is it still pretty dense for you? Thoughts on Melville's style and approach thus far?

Of course, feel free to discuss plot, character, whatever else strikes your fancy.
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>>9675642
first time reading it. the first 15~25 chapters were really great and I didn't think it was dense. the prose and characters were all marvelous too, specially our dear friend Queequeg.
Now I just finished chapter 33 an, and the chapter 32, Cetology is probably the most dense so far, I understood the "what I read, expected and got" no, with the pics about whale types and whatnot.

get to us OP, come on. I started two days late and so I had to read the chapters of 3 days in one, and it was fine, just do that few days and you are good.
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>>9675642
Its pretty easy to catch up, 50 pages per day is really easy.

>>9675736
I enjoyed Cetology honestly but I couldn't keep thinking if its outdated. The book started really amazing and I still enjoy it as much as I did in start.
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>>9675736
>>9675920

Yeah I'm not worried about catching up. Any lurking anons please feel free to jump on board to.

Rereading, I really love his prose. The opening chapter's ruminations perfectly capture the kind of book this will be on the whole. " Meditation and water are wedded forever", fantastic.

It's really easy for most people to put the book down once he gets to the highly technical chapters on whaling and sailing. Just word of advice, don't get disheartened. Try to push through, you'll end up appreciating those chapters later when you're done reading and thinking about the book as a whole.

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>he still believes free will doesn't exist
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>>9672576
If free will exists why can't I stop myself from replying to this shitty bait thread?
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>>9672584
if free will existed I wouldn't have wasted 10 years on the chans
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>>9672584
>>9672590
>anti free will posters immediately expose themselves as just rationalizing their personal failure

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