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How do people write I don't understand
How could you ever have that much to say about anything
What's separates an adult idea to a teenage drivel? I'm pretty sure every thought in my head is drivel
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I can tell you're a girl. Please be my girlfriend.
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>>10020793
the secret about writing is that it generally takes a long time to germinate and actually writing is a necessary condition of having ideas about things. Thinking can produce nice images and all, but the real weight of anything comes when you sit down. Generally speaking, forget about your self and let the thinking occur mediated through a fictitious character. Note: this character may takes years to develop.
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Well you see I like to think about stuff.
And sometimes when I'm going to sleep or pacing around my room I like to construct make-believe worlds in my head and when I have a good idea what it would be like I write about what the people in it are doing.
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I bought several books but I lack motivation to read anyone of them. Help?
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>>10020701
Read them
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>>10020763
Stfu this isn't helpful at all
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>>10021564
Just read them you idiot. There is no magic motivational sentence that will just drive you forever, all improvement is self-improvement. Read the books. Or don't.
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Hey /lit/, what's your advice finding a co-author?
Have any co-author success/catastrophic failure stories?
Mostly I find people ghost because they're unwilling to work through imagined creative differences.
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>>10020642
>Extrovert writer
lol
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>>10020642
The first question you have to ask yourself is, why do you want a co-author?
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>>10020761
I'm a good ideas guy.
I can write A B C
But I need someone else to do all the other stuff in between A and B and C
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How accurate is this?
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>>10020623
I'm a pleb who hasn't read Stirner, but this makes me respect him more.
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It's accurate enough to stirner's autism
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yup
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Literally fucking HOW does fapping violate the categorical imperative?
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>>10020616
If everyone fapped, there wouldn't be marriage or children. If there wasn't marriage or children, there wouldn't be families. If there weren't families, there wouldn't be civilization. If there wasn't civilization, no one could read Kant.
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Just skimmed through all of this guy's oeuvre in about 15 minutes. What did I think of it?
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>>10020632
>thinking
wew lad
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>And the most terrifying question of all may be just how much horror the human mind can stand and still maintain a wakeful, staring, unrelenting sanity.
>We fall from tomb to womb, from one blackness to another, remembering little of the one, and knowing nothing of the other.
>Nightmares exist outside the realm of logic and there is little fun to be had in explanations.
>God is cruel. Sometimes he makes you live.
>We make up horrors to help us cope with the real ones.
>We stopped checking for monsters under the bed when we realized they were inside us.
>I think that we're all mentally ill- those of us outside the asylums only hide it a little better- and maybe not all that much better, after all.
>Monsters are real, and ghosts are too. They live inside of us, and sometimes, they win.
>You think, "Okay, I get it, I'm prepared for the worst," but you hold out that small hope, see, and that's what fucks you up. That's what kills you.
Damn....
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More composer quotes please
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>And the most terrifying question of all may be just how much horror the human mind can stand and still maintain a wakeful, staring, unrelenting sanity.
Endless horror, quantitatively and qualitatively.
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>>10021646
this. Why do I even bother anymore /lit/?
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Any STEM majors here who feel that they have learned a sufficient amount about literature and philosophy in their own studies without need of guidance of an instructor? I am having a crisis because I want to be a writer (inb4 blah blah blah) but I'm insecure about this goal because I never was taught properly about the subject by experts in my school. Am I off base? Immature? Retarded?
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>>10020366
In the same boat OP. Bumping for interest. From what I gather, you'll never attain academic proficiency in philosophy but you'll be able to understand enough for it to have a positive impact on your life regardless.
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>>10020366
Have you ever met any lit majors who knew a thing outside of their area of study? What dya think you dip
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>>10020366
Similar situation. I'm going into medicine.
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I'm trying to get into literature but everything I read is awful. The Old Man and the Sea, a supposed classic, reads like it was written by a high school student. So much repetition and awkward sentences.
>He was an old man who fished alone in a skiff in the Gulf Stream and he had gone eighty-four days now without taking a fish. In the first forty days a boy had been with him. But after forty days without a fish the boy’s parents had told him that the old man was now definitely and finally salao
What a weak, vague opening paragraph. The dialogue is awful to read as well. Meandering, pointless mess.
I had enough and moved onto The Dark Tower.
>The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed. The desert was the apotheosis of all deserts, huge, standing to the sky for what looked like eternity in all directions. It was white and blinding and waterless and without feature save for the faint, cloudy haze of the mountains which sketched themselves on the horizon and the devil-grass which brought sweet dreams, nightmares, death.
The desert was the apotheosis of all deserts? A professional writer wrote this garbage sentence? Who writes this shit?
Don't get me started on Infinite Jest.
I want YOU to recommend me a competently written book that isn't full of flowery dialogue or nonsense /lit/. Every page has to be worth reading. Something with a point to it, you know?
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>>10020356
That's actually a pretty gud description for King. He must have been reading McCarthy
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>>10020356
stoner is all prose. no fluff but all direct emotional expression. best book i ever read
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>>10020356
You know what all great authors have in common?
None of them sound the same. There are no rules to writing. Get good and develop a taste. Figure it out on your own.
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Who /spiritually attuned/ here?
Who /considering the priesthood/ here?
Who /truly blessed/ here?
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>>10020297
Not me :(
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>>10020298
Join us, brother.
Only in Christ can we attain true attunement.
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>>10020301
I'm trying, man. But I feel like I keep hitting a brick wall.
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Rank the English romantic poets, from best to worst.
I would say it ranks like this:
Blake>Keats>Shelley>Byron>Wordsworth>Coleridge
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>>10020089
What's the point in this?
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>>10020098
What's the point in any of the shitposting here dumbass?
If you have to ask, leave this fucking board.
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>>10020108
>quantifying the unquantifiable
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Are there any other good books for people with high testosterone?
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>>10020044
my diary desu
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>>10020044
What makes this a must-read is that the title isn't The Art of the Deal, it's Trump The Art of the Deal, Trump wrote a book where his own name is the title.
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Why has this board become /platitudinous-philosophy/ and pol shit? Have the days of Holderlin, Joyce, and Wallace really vanished? How has this board turned into pepe, rick and morty, and r/books?
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Have you seriously not noticed the masses around the entire world becoming consistently dumber?
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>>10020010
newfags won
t know who this is
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>>10020010
There's an absolute faggot mod running this place. Doesn't enforce shit. General philosophy discussion doesn't belong here, and nor does /pol/ bait shit.
It's probably a frogman who loves the /pol9k/ vibe this place now has. God forbid there's any actual literature discussion. Fucking fat worthless piece of shit
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New Bolaño
Couldn't find something in english
http://www.theclinic.cl/2017/09/12/sepulcros-vaqueros-desconcertante-inedito-del-universo-bolano/
How does he keep writing while being dead?
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I miss bolaño tbqh :'(
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>>10020034
You never met him
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>>10020045
but i've read 2000 pages of his intimate thoughts
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So now that we can make identity politics bait threads, what do you think of this literary figure and his racist and problematic quote:
>At this point we leave Africa, not to mention it again. For it is no historical part of the World; it has no movement or development to exhibit…What we properly understand by Africa, is the Unhistorical, Undeveloped Spirit, still involved in the conditions of mere nature, and which had to be presented here only as on the threshold of the World’s History.
I will never read Hegel again. Did in impact your appreciation of Hegel's literature and philosophy? For me it's racism and unacceptible.someone please make another thread like these about women, so we've got the big three sorted
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>>10019980
There is a really interesting reason for his saying this, and it is basically tied to what we knew of Africa in those days as well as what Hegel's philosphical method is about.
Hegel says Africa is not part of history in the sense of intellectual history. At that time there was virtually no one that thought we had ever received any world-historical ideas or cultural developments from Africa. No idea of freedom, no idea of God, no idea of ethics, no mathematical concept—nothing at all. Now, people for a while, and still now, point out that they think it's stupid that somehow Egypt peculiarly is not considered African and thus it gets recognized as part of Western history but not an African contribution. Now, I know fuck all about this debate, so I don't know.
What I do know, however, is that for all Africa did have and could have, it remains true that Africa is as a cultural part of Western society a nonexistent entity except for its contribution to Western modern music. Yes, Africa has clearly been part of experienced world history, but for the vast part not in an active role beyond Egypt. I'm sure that through Egypt we likely got some things from deep mainland Africa, but historians are the ones to let us know that.
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>>10020190
Please post something more redpilled next time.
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>>10020190
Egypt is not a historically black place. It just feels disingenuous to call Egyptians Africans. Is Camus considered African? Is Augustine?
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Has this guy actually read Derrida? 2017-09-14 12:06:40 Post No.10019876
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Has this guy actually read Derrida?
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of course he hasn't
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>>10019876
>This dweeb you fuckheads circle jerk thread after thread sounds like Kermit the Frog and is scared of Mr. Viola, whom he completely misunderstands
BAHAHAHHA
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Literally no one has