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Is this worth reading?
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>>9712167
I've been wanting to. it's probably shit, but I always want to read these weird 4chan anon books.

anyone have the link?
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>>9712173

I know, its basically outsider art from the looks of it.
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Jesus, years later and you're still shilling your shit? Shame on you for wasting a good title and a good cover by the way.

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When will you finally realize that Jane Austen is one of the greatest novelists who ever lived?

She is capable of creating a huge variety of unique characters who change and interact in the most plausible and entertaining manners, she has great control over irony while still allowing the emotional depths of her stories to resonate, and her innovations in free indirect speech is objectively important in the history of prose styles.
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>>9712166
I only ever read Northanger Abbey. It was bretty funny.

Can someone confirm whether CB's Jane Eyre is actually good? I read it in high school and hated it, especially since it was presented as a 'feminist text' and we had to write a paper describing it as such. I was aghast at this because Jane Eyre ends up basically as a cheating cripple's servant in the end. Recently I've been thinking my hate might be ill-founded, since I've seen some praise for the novel here, and I'm considering rereading it to find out. Really enjoyed EB's Wuthering Heights, as contrast. Sorry to derail the Austen thread but I figure anyone into Austen would know Jane Eyre.
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>>9712187
Jane Eyre is not actually good. The only Bronte sister with genuine talent is Emily. Jane Eyre is horribly overrated.

Also, amusingly, the Bronte sisters all hated Jane Austen, and in their letters to each other would talk endless shit about her books.
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Pride and Prejudice just about bored me to tears as a highschooler.
She's got tight control over her shit but I think a novel should be about more things and should have grander themes. P&P just seemed small to me. I think Woolf is far more talented

I love Kafka's short stories so I was really excited to read his unfinished "masterpiece" and unfortunately when I finished it all I could help thinking was "unfinished" is a much more appropiate label than masterpiece for The Trial.

My beef:

>There is only one chapter where any form of "trial" takes place
>Character spends most of the novel with the threat of this ubiquitous court shadowing over him but tbqh his life really doesn't feel that affected by it i.e. still gets laid, still makes stacks at the bank, still has freedom to walk around etc
>the ending, while beautiful, felt so rushed that it really reinforced how unfinished the book is.

Idk /lit/ I didn't hate it by any stretch but I just feel like the book wasn't as awesome as it was made out to be. Could someone please explain what made them love or hate this book and if I'm missing anything.
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>>9712160
Read DFW's essay on Kafka's humor and why American kids don't get it. The same, in a broad sense could be said for his writing in general.
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>>9712178
What collection is this essay in?
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>>9712160
did you read that edition of the book? because they do a great job in explaining the subtleties of the book. I thought it was a masterpiece, and probably the majority will think the same. I think you missed the point of the book if you are focusing on those three items

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What does a person live for?
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pleasure derived from chemical changes in the brain created by manipulation of the illogically manufactured environment.
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>>9712138
benis in vagina
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>>9712138
Eudaimonia

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Ask a self-published shillster anything.
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>>9712019
At what point in your life did you figure out that you would never have enough talent to be formally published?
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>>9712027
I've never reached such a point in my life; it is inevitable that I will become traditionally published. Simply using self-publishing as a means of starting out. 6 books finished, working on several others.
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>>9712019
Should I continue writing my novel? I'm not sure if I have talent.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yBZGuOZtvcilfI3LVrnxiFMRzFqVXbIffsy8oNGdy5Q/edit?usp=sharing

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Anyone else feels the Internet has made them dumber? I used to read a couple of books a month and had a much better attention span, but ever since I got more and more online I've been having trouble sitting down and concentrating. I've been stuck with the same book for three months now and I can never stay quiet long enough to finish it already.
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>it's this thread again

Why don't we have a "help I'm a low attention span pleb" info thing in the sticky?
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>>9711983
honestly you shou
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>>9711983
i 100% feel you, friend

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>doesn't even read and lift at the same time
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/fitlit/ had its time. it was okay except for all of the /fit/ threads
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>>9711974
t. nerd-virgin
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>>9711929
The fuck you say

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>I wouldn't approve of simply throwing literary texts into disorder. First, deconstructing academic, professional discourse doesn't mean simply destroying the norms or pushing these norms to utter chaos. I'm not in favor simply of disorder. In fact, there are many ways of practicing order and disorder. I'm sure that there are very conservative ways of throwing texts into disorder, or very conservative ways of disorganizing the classroom. On the contrary, there are very disturbing ways of teaching quietly and, apparently, according to the most traditional forms. I'm not presenting myself as a model for pedagogy, far from it, but people who have a certain image of deconstruction and associate it with me would be very surprised by the way I teach, the way I read papers, the way I give advice to students; it's apparently a very traditional way.

Wtf I love Derrida now!
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>I call my students in France back to the most traditional ways of reading before trying to deconstruct texts; you have to understand according to the most traditional norms what an author meant to say, and so on. So I don't start with disorder; I start with the tradition. If you're not trained in the tradition, then deconstruction means nothing. It's simply nothing.
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>>9711895
>Hey, I have a theory about reading texts to enhance our collective understanding of the processes of writing and the underlying presuppositions of social norms.

>EVISCERATE THE BOURGEOISIE

>Wait, that's not...

Every time.
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>I think that if what is called "deconstruction" produces neglect of the classical authors, the canonical texts, and so on, we should fight it. I wouldn't be in favor of such a deconstruction. I'm in favor of the canon, but I won't stop there. I think that students should read what are considered the great texts in our tradition-even if that's not enough, even if we have to change the canon, even if we have to open the field and to bring into the canonical tradition other texts from other cultures. If deconstruction is
only a pretense to ignore minimal requirements or knowledge of the tradition, it could be a bad thing. So when those colleagues complain about the fact that some students, without knowing the tradition, play at
deconstruction, try to behave deconstructively, I agree that that's a mistake, a bad thing, and we shouldn't encourage it. However, sometimes some colleagues refer to these situations simply in order to oppose deconstruction: "Well, the effect of deconstruction is this, so we must exclude deconstruction." That's what I would call bad faith in the service of conservative politics. So, I would say that we should require, according
to the situation-which may be very different from one country to the other, one city to the other-a minimal (the definition of minimal is
problematic, I know) culture and minimal knowledge of the basic foundations of the canon. On this ground, of course, students could develop, let's say, a deconstructive practice-but only to the extent that they "know"
what they are "deconstructing": an enormous network of other questions.

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If you start with the Greeks, what do you end with?
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>>9711885
Killing yourself after reading the Socratic dialogue that ends with Socrates killing himself
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You end with current literature -- the theory and philosophy that comes out now. In other words the Philosophical Review.
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>>9711885
YouTube videos of alt-right internet celebrities self-flagellating their half-baked opinions

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Books that need to be made:

Something written as Moby Dick but about pirates
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Why
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>>9711852
I really thought this was the death from det sjunde inseglet.
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>>9711852

Treasure Island? It's essentially that. You could phone in some shitty metaphor how the treasure was Silver's "white whale".

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post yer hardies
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only three are hardcover but this is what i found today..
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>>9711781
How's that greek archeology book?
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>>9711759
>Wishing someone would post a stiffy

Fuck off to the fag boards already

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Depressing that this board is dead as fuck. Can't discuss shit, no memes, no nothing. More dead than /x/. Is there anywhere to actually read/discuss books particularly more lowkey authors
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Unironically Reddit
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>>9711700
I have no idea. I'm kinda glad that this board is dead now in regards to literature. It was the last thing on the internet that really distracted me from productive things. Maybe you can try to find a respectable group on goodreads or something to discuss lesser known authors.
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Goodreads. Other imageboards.

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What is your opinion on Alain de Botton and The School of Life?
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>>9711693
http:/ / pornastherapy (.) com

Need I say more
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>>9711693
>guy who pretends he's a philosopher so the normies will buy his philosopher shirts
That's not even pseud tier, that's just being a pleb.
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>>9711753
>Get up my arse. I want to degrade you. I can awaken in you the desire to do things you’d normally find utterly disgusting. Dig your posh tongue deeper.

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A university education in English/Writing is a useless waste of time, provided you already have the ability and willingness to

1. Read
2. Think Critically and Creatively
3. Write down your thoughts

What is preventing you from contributing to society while writing/studying in your off time? Why do you need to pay someone to discipline you and spoon feed you ideas when you are capable of doing it yourself? Prove me wrong.

>t. A self loathing student and aspiring autodidact
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>Prove me wrong

The argument of an autodidact for sure
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>>9711653

>The argument of an autodidact for sure

Enjoy sitting in class listening to a sack of dust repeating things you already know, friend
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I concur most wholeheartedly! That's something libartfags will never understand.

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I cannot find anythingy that attracts my curiosity
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>>>/pol/

Look into Operation Northwoods and any books about it.
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>>9711641

you're not curious enough and that's counter-intuitive
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pretty new: http://portobellobooks.com/the-history-thieves

more action oriented: walter schellenberg memoir

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