What did /lit/ think of pic related?
I found this book to be eye opening because it was one of the first I read where I realized that African-Americans, or maybe non-Europeans in general, have an entirely different ethos I find difficult if not impossible to resonate with. Yet at the same time, I now realize what it must be like to read "great" literature that you're not represented by. And I don't mean in the sense of skin-colour alone, but culturally as well. I can read everything from Russian to South American (Western) literature and feel a connection to those stories. Suddenly I'm more open to the idea of substituting certain works with others in school curriculum.
I've only read Song of Solomon and didn't experience quite as dramatic a break, but I think Morrison is a lovely writer. I had a similar Othering experience with Fanon's Wretched of the Earth and it was a really surreal feeling.
>>10022498
>Fanon's Wretched of the Earth
Can you go into more depth about the "othering experience" you had reading this? I'll be sure to check it out regardless.
>>10022619
Well, it was just a very definite sense that this book was written to someone that very definitely was NOT.a person like me, but also the book talked ABOUT me anf people like me in a way that made me the Other, which is something I have very rarely experienced. I was the foreign body in the universe of that text. It was wild.
What does /lit/ have to say about this book? Is it a good analysis?
>>10022222
Checking my GET like a faggot
>Tone is all over the place
>Style can either be really stiff or be kinda poetic
>Major characters are really inconsistent
>Big bad guy is not actually all that bad, only kills like 10 people
>Main character is kinda cool, but doesn't show up until the third act and he dies really quickly
>Pacing is confusing af
>WAYYY too much exposition in the first act. Like, entire chapters dedicated to lineage. Not even Tolkien was this bad
>Final act really drags on until last chapter
>Last chapter is actually really trippy but kinda cool
>All these random side characters we only meet for a little bit start showing up and are only used once
>MC comes back (are you fucking serious)
>Ending resolves nothing
The Bible by God is a 5/10 at best. God should have hired an editor instead of self publishing
He should have spent the time writing this on raising his son instead. Maybe he wouldn't have ended up a pedophile shutin.
Is this book any good?
Why don't you read it and tell us, anon?
>>10022161
My time on earth is limited
>>10022143
Did you read the synopsis? If so, do you really want to continue?
I love contemporary literature, but the "message" and identity of the author has become more important to the literary milieu than the quality of the work, although I will say Marlon James and Paul Beatty are genuinely talented, Coate and Zadie Smith are hacks and beloved for the above.
I personally wouldnt read this as it is more racialist african american drivel, and those who are promoting it are the same who drove me from the NYRB and New Republic for their insane obsession with identity over quality.
If you want good contemporary suggestions, try the New Criterion or The London review, which is also liberal, just not post-structuralist and racialist.
Guys have you read this? I just did and I tought it was really good. What did you think of it?
it's shit. fuck you
>tfw no virgin Naoko gf
>>10022018
Super comfy. It could have been written about college today. I really liked the little trips he took just to get away from everything. Really made me want to do something similar. The fucking protestor though, bloody hell interrupting class for their stupid bullshit that they're not even sincere about. It's nice to know
I'm not alone in that feeling.
Is nihilism even feasible as an ideology?
I've met tons of anarchists, crust punks, punks, and other radical self-described nihilists during my lifetime, but as I engaged them in conversation, they always seemed to still have values and some kind of morals. I don't think I've ever met an actual nihilist outside literature
>>10021768
Nihilism is an umbrella term. It's also typically not the final destination of anyone's intellectual life. You're probably correct when you say you've never actually met one.
t. guy with crusty tattoos
>>10021768
You're right, of course. True nihilists would be corpses on their bed, with a tatty copy of whatever poisonous literature that destroyed their mind by their side.
Nihilism as a focal point of your identity is just an untreated form of depression
does god even exist?
The more important question is: do we even exist?
>>10021577
That's probably the least important question.
>>10021568
If one century is a millisecond then how did he type that message? 4chan was invented October 1 2003 which is 13 years, 11 months and 12 days which is 13.95 years ago so he must of started that post and finished it in 139.5 microseconds his time. There's no way hes telling the truth... I'm calling bullshit.
Did he just btfo Stirner fags?
>Every State is a despotism, be the despot one or many, or (as one is likely to imagine about a republic) if all be lords, i. e. despotize one over another. For this is the case when the law given at any time, the expressed volition of (it may be) a popular assembly, is thenceforth to be law for the individual, to which obedience is due from him or toward which he has the duty of obedience. If one were even to conceive the case that every individual in the people had expressed the same will, and hereby a complete “collective will” had come into being, the matter would still remain the same. Would I not be bound today and henceforth to my will of yesterday? My will would in this case be frozen. Wretched stability! My creature — to wit, a particular expression of will — would have become my commander. But I in my will, I the creator, should be hindered in my flow and my dissolution. Because I was a fool yesterday I must remain such my life long. So in the State-life I am at best — I might just as well say, at worst — a bondman of myself. Because I was a willer yesterday, I am today without will: yesterday voluntary, today involuntary.
>>10021558
How change it? Only be recognizing no duty, not binding myself nor letting myself be bound. If I have no duty, then I know no law either.
“But they will bind me!” My will nobody can bind, and my disinclination remains free.
“Why, everything must go topsy-turvy if every one could do what he would!” Well, who says that every one can do everything? What are you there for, pray, you who do not need to put up with everything? Defend yourself, and no one will do anything to you! He who would break your will has to do with you, and is your enemy. Deal with him as such. If there stand behind you for your protection some millions more, then you are an imposing power and will have an easy victory. But, even if as a power you overawe your opponent, still you are not on that account a hallowed authority to him, unless he be a simpleton. He does not owe you respect and regard, even though he will have to consider your might.
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>>10021562
You are misinterpreting the OPs intention or critcism.
He never says someone isn't a free egoist, but instead uses "us" as any defined collective to which you take part in by "behaving," which is to say, by incorporating yourself into that collective the moment you leave a fixed state of yourself that acted in accordance with that collective. You leave a shell of yourself and the real world manipulates it however it pleases, incorporates it in its play the moment it sees it, which you allowed for it to see. It is a "real" copy of you, even if you moved on from it as a free spirit, became different and the same as a creative nothing, the moment after. You are bound by your body, so what you leave is predictable, as the inclinations of a body with determined abilities is predictable.
is it worth the read?
Go-eth
Ger-tah
Girth
>>10021585
Goo-tah
>>10021486
Read Spenser, unless you can read German.
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>>10021406
Hold on, this wasn't taken at one of those dinners that costs hundreds of dollars a plate, was it?
>>10021406
are they larping?
Is it even possible to be optimistic about the future?
Are there any books that can demonstrate the world isn't a fuck and that everything isn't going to blow up in our faces spectacularly?
>>10021347
>Are there any books that can demonstrate the world isn't a fuck and that everything isn't going to blow up in our faces spectacularly?
Ah, you're looking for fairy tales, eh?
Black Swan by Nassim Taleb
>>10021347
>I'm a pessimist because of intelligence, but an optimist because of will.
Gramsci wrote this shortly after having accepted that he would have certainly died in a fascist prison.
Trying to be both rational and optimist is a lost cause.
I really enjoy the intense visual imagery, and descriptive prose of HP lovecraft. Would someone recommend other works of equal, or surpassed descriptive prose?
Pic related, it's the version I have. It's an amazing edition.
Hemingway?
Lovecraft's greatest influence, of whom he admired very much, was Lord Dunsany – it is from him that he got the dreamy style.
Start with The King of Elflands Daughter
Besides, there was a strangely calming element of the cosmic beauty in the hypnotic landscape through which we climbed and plunged fantastically. Time had lost itself in the labyrinths behind, and around us stretched only the flowering waves of faery and the recaptured loveliness of vanished centuries - the hoary groves, the untainted pastures edged with gay autumnal blossoms, and at vast intervals the the small brown farmsteads nestling amidst huge trees beneath verticle precipices of fragrant brier and meadow-grass. Even the sunlight assumed a supernal glamour, as if some special atmosphere or exhalation mantled the whole region.
- The Whisperer in the Darkness
Recommend me some /biz/ related reads.
I already asked /biz/ and didn't get a response.
please respond
Start with the Jews. Who's the cute girl?
>>10021335
american psycho
>Read a book
>Find out later you didn't read the "right" translation
What do you do, /lit/?
Stop being such a faggot
> translations
>>10021020
I blogpost with a generic frog meme on /lit/
I want to see the room you write and/or read in
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>>10020954
timestamp also if real refer to my pic in OP
Name a better villain from the last 30 years.
>>10020922
...Than Judge Holden from Blood Meridian
Why not start discussion with a less retarded opening statement?
>>10020926
because I am mentally deficient and could not spend a minute to even think about what I am saying. I just wanted to talk about the Judge. When I post this same thread in 72 hours, I will remember your advice though, so thank you.