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Suicide is dumb. The fast track to posthumous punishment. I'm not saying life is good or defensible or anything but there isn't some trivial escape hatch. You gotta go through your existence the hard way chief.

Look up the Peaceful Pill Handbook. I think there's also some good usenet articles on suicide too.

>>9724247
>there isn't some trivial escape hatch
Um, yes, there actually is, we were discussing it.
>you gotta go through
Why do you "gotta", chief?

>>9724096
Tis good.

>>9724096
i read it a few years ago. shit was tight.

i will always remember a metaphor he made about how our lives are like falling water, and memory like a bowl, and those who claim that their life was short merely did not catch much water in their bowl -- that is, they were not really remembering their life, or appreciating it. case in point: the quote on the cover

>that cover design
The West needs more gulags

>>9723826
>implying atheists don't enjoy Jewish fairy tales
It's not as entertaining as the stuff from Grimm brothers but not bad enough to trigger anyone either.

>>9723826
Doesn't trigger me, It's laughable that brainlets really believe in this desu

>>9725410
>implying that believing in something so complex and abstract seeming makes you stupid
Wtf. Why do atheists believe this? Besides, christians are some of the kindest, smartest (maths), and most moral people I know. It sounds like you just have a superiority complex you need to deal with.

>>9723640
What? It's the contrary actually, the artist has to perform for an audience, when he forgets about his audience, about what people want, then his art becomes shapeless, dull, hollow.

>>9723640
An artist that works only for himself is an egoist, therefore his art lost some of its bright. An artist that wants to see people appreciate his efforts and be happy that he can make people happy knows the true meaning of the word art.

>>9723649
>>9723661
>t. consumers, not artists

>>9723459
Call me Ishmael

Waking up to a loud crash rarely means something good is happening. It’s never “CRASH! Mom made pancakes!” or “CRASH! We decided to adopt a Golden Retriever!”

>>9723459
mongols tho

>>9723392
Not according to senpais on the internet and lit. Rumour has it that she skipped sentences that she couldn't understand.

She is the best translator

Do you really think teenagers on /lit/ have read multiple translations of Dostoevsky and don't just spout off whatever they've read on the internet?

Please tell me someone has the older ones archived?

>>9724694
this

>>9725432
>thising this incorrectly

Past the flannel plains and blacktop graphs and skylines of canted rust, and past the tobacco-brown river overhung with weeping trees and coins of sunlight through them on the water downriver, to the place beyond the windbreak, where untilled fields simmer shrilly in the A.M. heat: shattercane, lamb's-quarter, cutgrass, sawbrier, nutgrass, jimsonweed, wild mint, dandelion, foxtain, muscadine, spine-cabbage, goldenrod, creeping charlie, butter-print, nightshade, ragweed, wild oat, vetch, butcher grass, invaginate volunteer beans, all heads gently nodding in a morning breeze like a mother's soft hand on your cheek. An arrow of starlings fired from the windbreak's thatch. The glitter of dew that stays where it is and steams all day. A sunflower, four more, one bowed, and horses in the distance standing rigid and still as toys. All nodding. Electric sounds of insects at their business. Ale-colored sunshine and pale sky and whorls of cirrus so high they cast no shadow. Insects all business all the time. Quartz and chert and schist and chondrite iron scabs in granite. Very old land. Look around you. The horizon trembling, shapeless. We are all of us brothers.

Some crows come overhead then, three or four, not a murder, on the wing, silent with intent, corn-bound for the pasture's wire beyond which one horse smells at the other's behind, the lead horse's tail obligingly lifted. Your shoes' brand incised in the dew. An alfalfa breeze. Socks' burrs. Dry scratching inside a culvert. Rusted wire and tilted posts more a symbol of restraint than a fence per se. NO HUNTING. The shush of the interstate off past the windbreak. The pasture's crows standing at angles, turning up patties to get at the worms underneath, the shapes of the worms incised in the overturned dung and baked by the sun all day until hardened, there to stay, tiny vacant lines in rows and inset curls that do not close because head never quite touches tail. Read these.

huck finn

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You liked that chestnut tree huh

https://youtu.be/TIuY1VMBnAs
Unironically think this is really poetic.

Most radiohead lyrics, and then a lot of different heavy metal groups.

>>9723124
>GAYDIOHEAD

how did i know this was coming.

just kill yourself.

No, he IS the greatest, not only in the english language, but of all time. Shakespeare is in a league of his own. He's on the very small group of genius above common genius. He just sits there above every writer that have ever existed, together with Gauss, Newton and Mozart.

>>9722976
Theatre != literature.

>>9723240
According to the Nobel, every thing that is written is considered literature.

33% chance "so deep", 29% chance "resonates", 21% chance "tolstoy", 52% chance "audience pussy", 0.02% chance "tranny", 66% chance ""depressed""

>>9722597
to base one's entire future relationship on the prophecy of their favorite author is a fool's game.
that being said, it could be far worse, and if you wish to understand her reasons, perhaps you should read his work to discuss it with her.

>dfw girl
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Anon, this is not a joke, this is not haha funny ebin 4chan memes, this is serious serious serious shit. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT (and once more for emphasis, DOOOO NOOOOOT!!!) have ANYTHIG to do with dfw girls. There are so many reasons for STEERING CLEAR that I LITERALLY don't have enough time on this planet to explain them all. But please please just trust me that dfw girls are to be AVOIDED AT ALL COST

No it's Cetology.

The best chapter is A Squeeze of the Hand. :^)

>>9722368
If this isn't bait, I feel very sorry for you. Nobody deserves to be born retarded.

>>9722380
Not bait, I'm serious. I love the sermon in the beginning of the novel, but when it comes to the historical accuracy much late Sag-Harbor makes some fair points only to be dismissed with some terrible arguments by Ishmael.

>Maybe the whale was a boat or dead
>perhaps they went by the Cape of Good Hope (which is the longer route)

Dante, for example, makes a fair point in Paradiso about not being able to understand the divine in a rational manner as it is unfathomable to our muddled thinking. I'm not new to the idea, but Ishmael is using earthly arguments and not succeeding.

Not to mention the whole deal comes shortly after the 'we wuz whalemen and shit' chapter, which is equally obnoxious. Ishmael more than redeems himself later with 'The Tail' mind.

I don't mind YA fiction. In fact that and a graphic novel is usually my go-to after reading something challenging. I binge-read Watchmen and The Ocean at the End of the Lane after finishing Gravity's Rainbow because I didn't want my reading routine to go out of the window but I also felt like I needed some time to recover. Both were pretty good books actually.

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- the tolstoy v dostoevsky shit is stupid. everyone knows dostoevsky is the better of the two.

- nabokov was probably autistic.

- the color pink is enough to give me a hard on like seriously just the color alone.

- travel literature is GOAT

- i'm writing a cyberpunk novel about the acquisition of hentai and how 2d girls are illegal in the future because everyone must be forced into procreation as our chances at fertility are at an all time low and people need to fuck people (and this is due to people being obsessed with 2d women or guys or whatever, they're too perfect and humans just don't do it for humans anymore). trust me it's gonna be good. if the book had a soundtrack it'd be chopped and screwed remixes of europop.

- my writing desk is covered with my post-it notes than it is with me typing t b h f a m

- the last ten books i received were actually won from competitions with picturehouse cinemas and bfi's sight & sound and other social media based competitions. it's pretty good getting free things.

- i get the temptation to write a book that's basically various stream of consciousness imagery based on the things i'll see on a day to day basis, nothing narrative based but simple things to appreciate beauty in the mundane like how tidily a leaf will fall or how cables and wires become so intricate. nobody will buy that shit though so i'll wait until i'm 88 and then maybe it'll come across as profound and wow he really did appreciate everything what a kind goodman

>>9722009
If you add more obstacles in the way as to why people aren't fucking so much (maybe a test is established as to whether you're worth having the right to get yuh fuck on, i.e. Have you ever tainted your body with tobacco, alcohol or other forms of narcotics? Any answer means no sex for them or something).

Basically restricting sex is a kinda cool idea. It's been done before in books like The Handsmaid's Tale but it sounds like yours is less about empowering muh grill power and more about everyone getting fucked over.

Google not working?

knowledge

>>9721299
It means "to know"

Like if somebody tells you a story you've heard a million times before you just say, "I'm Gnostic bro"

You don't have to get it, you have to get the meme, swallow the meme, assimilate the meme

>>9720709
>the best english language novel of the past 50 years is a meme
Kys

>>9720736
It's beautifully written and entertaining, to be sure, but I didn't get anything out of it. Everything seemed pretty unimportant to me.