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"Ruin value (German: Ruinenwert) is the concept that a building be designed such that if it eventually collapsed, it would leave behind aesthetically pleasing ruins that would last far longer without any maintenance at all." -Wikipedia, 'Ruin value'

Does anyone have access to Albert Speer's 'Theory of Ruin Value'? Or if it has been translated sufficiently into English? I'm looking for a PDF of the work, but I do not know whether it is an essay or a book. Would it be a collection of other essays of the Reich?
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Sounds like dumb shit. Berlin got levelled in WWII and now modern Berlin is ugly as shit.
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>>9753448
Uncited Wikipedia responds:
"Most of these planned buildings were never constructed, and even those that were, were often constructed out of cheap concrete, instead of the materials intended. Today, they mostly either lie in unromantic ruin in fields, or have been demolished."
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Sounds like a very German thing.

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>Check out Nietzsche book from library
>Girl behind the counter glares at me upon seeing it

I-I was just interested, I swear
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>>9753395

She's a fucking pseud and I guarantee you she doesn't even understand Nietzsche's work half as well as she thinks she does. If you see a young person give a hostile treatment of Nietzsche I GUARANTEE you they are posturing pseuds who don't know fucking shit.
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Why would you care about the opinion of someone like that?
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like omg what a fascist

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http://gulftoday.ae/portal/f0263d86-599f-43eb-b4b0-eaf7d9c957ad.aspx

Unfortunately, the leftist-liberal public space is also more and more dominated by the rules of tweet culture: short snaps, retorts, sarcastic or outraged remarks, with no space for multiple steps of a line of argumentation. One passage (a sentence, even part of it) is cut out and reacted to. The stance that sustains these tweet rejoinders is a mixture of self-righteousness, political correctness and brutal sarcasm: the moment anything that sounds problematic is perceived, a reply is automatically triggered, usually a PC commonplace.

Although critics like to emphasise how they reject normativity (“the imposed heterosexual norm”, and so on), their stance is one of ruthless normativity, denouncing every minimal deviation from the PC dogma as “transphobia” or “fascism” or whatsoever. Such a tweet culture which combines official tolerance and openness with extreme intolerance towards actually different views simply renders critical thinking impossible. It is a true mirror image of the blind populist rage à la Donald Trump, and it is simultaneously one of the reasons why the left is so often inefficient in confronting rightist populism, especially in today’s Europe. If one just mentions that this populism draws a good part of its energy from the popular discontent of the exploited, one is immediately accused of “class essentialism”.
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Sounds like what Orwell wrote in Road to Wigan Pier. The aims of socialism are good, but most people who call themselves socialism are repulsive, and forget what it means to be a normal human being, thus turning normal people off
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We could have had leftist social welfare policies and right wing traditionalism, instead we got right wing corporatism and leftist larping.
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isn't political correctness a right wing myth?

i find it odd that a leftist philosopher, one of a popular stature would use that term?

philosophy is for failed artists or scientists. no one would choose to be a philosopher over a genius composer or a genius scientist, because it is always a last resort profession, for failures and frauds
>Nietzsche - wanted to be a composer and failed
>Wittgenstein - wanted to be an engineer, failed, wanted to be a mathematician, failed, wanted to be a musician, failed
>Heidegger - wished he was a poet/artist, failed
>Schopenhaur - wished he was a musician so that wouldn't have to live his boring philosopher life, failed
>Russell - wanted to be a mathematician, wasn't as smart as other mathematicians and so opted for philosophy
>every single modern anglo philosopher - wished they were mathematicians, so they try pathetically to use mathematical symbols and logic in their philosophy so that they can at least get the aesthetic of it

Philosophers are also all sad manlets trying to compensate for low self esteem
>Heidegger was like 5 feet
>Wittgenstein - 5'6"
>Nietzsche 5'8"
>Camus - 5'7"
>Kant - 5'0" LMAO
>Sartre - 5'0" LMFAO
>Derrida - 5'5"
>Zizek - 5'8"
etc. etc. etc..

Philosophers wish they could make an impact on the world, they wish they could create beautiful works of art, they wish they could be good looking Chads, but they always fail, so they try to argue their way out of it, reason their way our of it: "I may not be able to get that cute girl, but, uh, it's because I'm the Ubermensch, hehehe, right guys!?" Every philosophical theory has been overturned, and philosophy has NEVER come up with a definitive answer. It is a failed field, and no one takes it seriously. Philosophers are all sad, pathetic, delusional people.
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>>9753145
>art is better than philosophy

It's like you're still living in the aesthetic stage
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>>9753145
philosophy has a greater impact on the world than art or music, so who cares.

You just can't monetize philosophy. That's why it seems less important to you.
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True
Artist are all chad
>Emerson 6'3"
>Murnau 6'11"
>dfw 6'0"
>Tolstoy 5'11" (huge for a russian of his time)
>Hemingway 6'1"
>Wilde 6'3"
>Johnson was described as very tall

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What's your opinion on deckle edge, /lit/?
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>>9752944
shit's cute on the shelf but it's a bitch to flip through.
It added a comfy antiquated aesthetic to the series of unfortunate events series when I was a lad.
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>>9752966 (checked)
>cute on the shelf
B-but anon, you dont mean to imply you're books are sorted with the spine facing AWAY from the viewer, do you?
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>>9752986
>not being able to immediately know a book by its size and length.

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What do you do for a living?

What is your favourite book?
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/lit/ is mostly english undergrads who don't really understand the books they had to study in class but will talk about them regardless. Favorite book is Infinite Jest.
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>>9752871
I own my own business. I am a multi millionaire with a wife and kids. She modelled until she had kids, and now she's staying at home to take care of them, as per my request.

I read exclusively right-wing literature.
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>>9752877
Same

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*teleports behind humanity*

> heh.. nothing personell delusional pigs
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>>9752667
>Our French Republic is no more than a great gullet swallowing the negroizing of the French at the command of the Jews. Our governors are a clique of sadistic yids and yellow-bellied masons sworn to swallow us up, to bastardize us further, to boil us down by all the grotesque, primitive means of inter-mixture, part negro, part yellow, part white, part red, part monkey, part Jewish, part everything.

What *did* he mean by this?
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>>9752681
Jesus, tone it down Raimi.
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>>9752667
is this the shadow version of Camus

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What's a book which is

1) relatively modern

2) emotionally and philosophically deep

3) actually enjoyable
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>>9752538
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>>9752538
You just posted the master of that.
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>1) relatively modern
>2) emotionally and philosophically deep
>3) actually enjoyable

Anything by a German. See The Tin Drum by Gunter Grass or anything by Sebald or Thomas Mann. Tomas Mann if you want early 20thc, Sebald if you want late.

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I believe that this book is autistic enough to become /lit/core
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>>9752442
A challenger approaches
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Out of my way faggots.
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>>9752460

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What the hell is he talking about when he mentions the "Outside?" Is it some ontological concept, some deity? What constitutes its essence? And why does he bring it up so much?
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>>9752426
it's where you go when your room is too filthy to inhabit
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>>9752440
>going outside
How did /lit/ get so normie?
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>>9752426
stay in your containment threads

you fucks make 4-5 threads daily about a guy you don't even understand but think is cool because the aesthetic you poorly perceive

sage

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Which version of the text is best, /lit/?
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The Little Review version, obviously
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the one with the big S, M, P at the beginning of the three respective sections. I think thats the modern library one, and the vintage paper back is nice? Whatever the case it's the one that usually has the court decision by the US judge and Joyce's thank you letter printed before the novel. It's the 1961 corrected text

You could hit the Gabler if you're dissertating on it but really who needs those deleted scenes anyway? The Gabler is more disappointing than the extended LOTRs by a long shot and if you have the Gifford annotations (which pair with the pagination in the modern library edition) then he will tell you when the omitted sentences appear anyway.

I haven't any experience myself with the oxford edition. It looks cool but not as cool as the Vintage modern library one so I didn't get it, though surely it has some fine footnotes but probably can't compare to Gifford.

Here: http://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/88933/ulysses-by-james-joyce/9780679722762

and

https://www.amazon.com/Ulysses-Annotated-Notes-James-Joyces/dp/0520253973/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0520253973&pd_rd_r=V7ZEZRA7R45WB2S3R9ZJ&pd_rd_w=gklnc&pd_rd_wg=yOwfL&psc=1&refRID=V7ZEZRA7R45WB2S3R9ZJ
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>>9752422
Right from the manuscript

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Is the Three-Body Problem worth reading? Obama said "The scope of it was immense. So that was fun to read, partly because my day-to-day problems with Congress seem fairly petty"
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>Have 2500+ years of Chinese literature to read including 20th century modernists
>Opt to read sci-fi
Sad desu. The scope of 三国演义 is immense and is based on an actual historical conflict that lasted nearly a hundred years
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>>9752214
it's excellent. book 2 is the best one.
>>9752243
you havent read either fuck off
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>>9752243
Recommend me something 'better' then.

>>9752259
Thanks!

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Redpill me on flash fiction.
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can we stop using the term "redpill"
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>>9752123
redpill me on why we should stop using "redpill"
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>>9752117
What is flash fiction?

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Why haven't you read this yet?
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>>9751862
reading list too big already
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>>9751862
I have you stupid faggot. Esme ending was pottery
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Actually... I just bought a copy. A used copy, but a copy none the less. Should arrive in a few days. Well, next week at this rate.

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Who here does this? Is it worth my time?

I feel like I'll get too focused on making my notes good instead of reading the book, or I'll end up spending years on one book simply to get perfect notes.
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>>9751857
Never for fiction. Sometimes for non-fiction.
I like to make timeline posters for history books sometimes though.
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>>9752263
>>9752263
>I like to make timeline posters for history books sometimes though.
How do you make them?
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>>9752263
>>9752455
Seconded. I got some timeline posters from university but they are extremely superficial and don't include literature or any of the big wars of say Greek history. I've written down major events with corresponding year as well as dates for lit, plays and other influential stuff. The issue now is to bring these on a digital timeline and being able to print them out/edit them at any given time. I'm currently working on my Greek/Asian timeline and plan on doing the same for the Romans, late antiquity, medieval ages etc. so help would be great appreciated. I thought of using draw.io for my projects.

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