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YASSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>9773134
SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY
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OMFG I LITERALLY CANT EVEN
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snake kills dimbeldoor

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Where to start?
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Cambridge companions to Plato and Aristotle while reading Copleston's History of Philosophy. After getting familiarized with their philosophy and modern interpretations, you can start reading their main works and form your own interpretations. Then you can go to Aquinas, Kant, Nietszche etc etc

There are a ton of Cabridge Companions to a lot of philosophers, they are very helpful as an introduction.

Fraile's history of philosophy is magnificent and the best I've read, but it's only in spanish unfortunately.

You might also want to study the Trivium and the Cathecism depending on your interests.
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>>9773078
Why bother? Metaphysics is dead and our main philosophic concepts are doctrinated by assholes who have no idea what philosophy is.
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pic rel > footnotes

Name some literature to make me feel cool
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>>9772992
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>>9772992
The door into summer
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Infinite JUST

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I want to educate myself on vedanta.

Which books do I read?
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Read 'The Razor's Edge' by Maugham. Or don't. You'll understand why I recommend it if you read it. It will definitely put some wind in your sails to continue, especially if you are a cracker ass Westerner.

Then move on to Swami Vivekananda. Read his books, which are actually transcribed lectures, on the different yogas:
Raja Yoga
Karma Yoga
Bhakti Yoga
Jnana Yoga

Do all this right, you will be granted the supernatural power of being able to smoke your own penis. Buddha bless, bitch.
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Rene Guenon
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Sri Aurobindo

>Have one shot at life
>get named Dick
Why do anglos/murricans do this?
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>not wanting to be named after the ultimate symbol of masculinity
Fucking effeminate yuropoor
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>>9772923
haha
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that's a pretty cool name desu, makes you sound like a detective and it's a penis so girls get wet thinking about you

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Is there anything more pleb than reading books in the original language?

>jealous monoglots can only read books in the original language
>patrician polyglots like myself can read the works of Goethe in French, the masterpieces of Proust in the superior Russian, Chinese and Japanese works in the opposite language, etc., opening up new vistas of interpretation and understanding

I tried reading a book in the original language once, just to see what it's like being a pleb, and it was a suffocating and nauseous experience. I pity those for whom there is no other option.
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Never have I seen such an obvious bait.
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>>9772921
>waaaah everything that hurts my fweelings is bait waaaah
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>>9772909
I'm not defending OP's opinion, but I will say that I really enjoy Vegliante's translation of Dante purely for the ingenuity and language of the version. Also, I'm an american.

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What's wrong with genre fiction and why lit guys dismiss it?

It's there a technical reason or is just snobbery?
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I don't see anything wrong with it. If it sells well, go for it. (most of it doesn't sell well either, btw)
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>>9772884
You can read for:
>entertainment
>information
>understanding

Genre fiction is (by definition) writing that only fulfills the first of those 3. Reading for understanding is a deep and rich experience, considered more rewarding by /lit/.

It also demands considerably more of the reader: where reading genre fiction is a largely passive affair, literature is active and involved.
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>>9772884
It's just about standards. 99.9999999% of sci-fi and fantasy books (I guess you were talking about these genres, since we're on 4chan) are pure shit, and fans of these genres are usually far too apologetic (they're willing to read anything as long as it's not evidently mediocre, even for illiterate's standards) for outsiders to trust them.

The result is that is is very hard to trust anything that comes out of these genres, or anyone who is willing to associate with it,

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How do you feel about his poetry, lads?
Has he struck gold writing poems in prose or did he destroy poetry by making it obsolete?
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>>9772854
never actually read anything by the baud, but he is super cute.
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>>9772865
damn you should, the lad was a genius
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Haven't read him, but bit using a single technique won't destroy an entire medium no matter what. Linebreaks aren't obsolete, and a great poet utilizing them is at an advantage over the prose stylist.

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Books/authors writing about femininity? Something like Yukio Mishima but the opposite.
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i don't think there are any.
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>>9772834
Are you sure? Is it because defining femininity in any way is aggressively frowned upon in modern society? surely there's gotta be some.
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HD and Woolf

https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/03/17/djuna-barnes-interviews-james-joyce/

>We have talked of rivers and of religions....We have talked of death, of rats, of horses, of the sea; languages, climates and offerings. Of artists and of Ireland.
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>>9772795
>We have talked of farts, of asses.
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Why would I want to talk with a pretentious atheist?
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>>9772966
>Joyce
>atheist

i doubt he had no beliefs

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Can you give me tips towards writing and publishing my first novel?

So far I have these:
>Read at least 20 novels of the same genre/topic you wanna do
>Read at least 20-50 novels in the cannon, from the best writers in history, read at least half of those of your best language writers
>Read guides on manuals of style, grammar and storytelling
>use said tools to make something professional
>hire a professional reader who will tell you a professional review
>hire a scout or an agent
>hope for the best

Is this the only way to publish today?

>inb4 self publish
only works for erotica.
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>>9772784
Why do YOU want to write a book?
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>>9772797
money, recognition, fame, gettting good in something, not being a useless neet, making my parents proud, nothing else to do.

the usual.
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write it first, then worry about publishing.

other than that


>Read at least 20 novels of the same genre/topic you wanna do

If there actually are 20 novels from the same genre/topic you're shooting for, you might want to rethink the book entirely.

>>Read guides on manuals of style, grammar and storytelling

Meh. Your grammar should be passable, if you look at most published writers their grammar is usually mediocre to bad. Writing has no rules ultimately, bad grammar can be good, good grammar can be bad. Just focus on being you, rather than what other people think you should be.

>>hire a professional reader who will tell you a professional review

what the hell is a professional reader? Probably way better to just pass your book around to people's opinion you value.

>>hire a scout or an agent

what the hell is a scout? An agent is a no brainer, but it's not like it's as easy as snapping your fingers to get one.

>Is this the only way to publish today?

No, there's never one way to do anything. You're attempting to break into a creative field. Be creative in your methods.

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I have become interested in the idea of liberty and freedom being reliant on a well disciplined populace to sustain itself. The idea that when the people wrested power from the old hereditary lords, they promised to place the burdens of that power on their shoulders, and accept the discipline and restraint it would require to wield it. I am talking about things such as:

>The right to vote being dependent on a populace disciplined enough to actually pay attention to elections and vote.
>The right to free public education requiring a population ready and willing to serve as tutors, chaperones, and aids at any time they are called without hesitation.
>The right to a fair trial is dependent on people not dragging their feet when called for jury duty.
>The right to access to water depends on you not trying to use limited supplies to flood a field in a desert.

What literature should I read to dive deeper into this idea?
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I'm also wondering how this ties in with the social contract?
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>>9772768
You're striving for a fundamentally materialistic system; you can't make people be a certain way. that's a very teenaged mistake your making.
There are, and have been, societies that have functioned synergistically and productively without someone standing over them with a gun and it's because they wanted to. People will only act in proportion to the depth of their emotional investment.
The system is never more important than the people.
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>>9773153
I don't mean to force people into action. I just mean to understand how the unspoken societal obligations which all cultures have becomes effected by the implementation of enlightenment ideals.

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Meritocracy > Nepotism

Prove me wrong.
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>Meritocracy>Nepotism
In what sense?
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>>9772756

Individuals who have potential in aptitude should not be placed behind another simply because of nepotism.

I don't see how this could not be clear.
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>implying the habsburg lip isn't far and away the embodiment and endgame of patrician style
>literally generations in the making
>radiates distinction & class
>w/baked-in fuck you money

nepotism is the clear choice desu

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Why hasn't Africa produced anything of literary value that goes beyond either
>muh racism
>muh black identity

I am genuinely curious since supposedly the first homo sapiens evolved there around 200,000 years ago
so they appear to have had quite the head-start.

What went wrong?
Inb4 /pol/
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>>9772742
Cortazar once mentioned that Africa has a great oral tradition. I really like to read their stories. Any recommendation?
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You gentrified black people
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>he hasn't read Tutuola

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Is this course as hard as people say it is? I'm a good writer so I expect this class to be a breeze. How many books should I read for this class? or is there like 3 books that will give me that definitive 5?

I love reading, literature, and philosophy, but I'd much rather focus on other classes and deal with the college shit I have to do rather than read this year. What do you fags suggest?
>inb4 "kill yourself nigger"
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>>9772710
Your success in the class itself depends on the teacher. The AP test is pretty much like AP English Comp.'s.

Why would you even ask /lit/? There are dozens of other websites that have answered your question years ago.
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>>9772710
The courses vary from teacher to teacher. Taking the test wasn't required at my school so I was the only one to take the final exam and I got 5s on both Lit and Comp. Just read the books and don't suck at writing.
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>>9772710
if youre 18 and about to start your senior year then yes, because youre obviously retarded

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