Why do pseuds not understand how the Socratic method works?
Politics (and sheer arrogance) aside that's not how you use the socratic method anyway. You're supposed to genuinely want to find out about what you're questioning, not think you already know the answers and use it to show your victims they're wrong by pretending to not know about the subject. That's just stupid and pretentious, and a child could see what you're trying to do
You know?
>>9775746
Socrate's method of debating was a bullshit method designed to make him appear clever and discredit people he didn't like. Which is how it ends up being used.
He was the biggest pseduo-intellectual of them all.
>>9776466
Oh, so people use it because they're intellectually dishonest like him.
What's /lit/'s opinion on Harlan Ellison?
/lit/ isn't a collective hive mind and ellison isn't a huge meme
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr5NsTOXAyE
Skilled orator because he's old af
Will shed a tear when he's gone
good
>>9775689
fuckin' pay him
I just read pic related and it was preety good. What other stephen books are good. I've heard Dark Tower is preety good and a movie is coming out soon for it. I'm contemplating reading that or reading more of the bill Hodges trilogy.
He really is a pretty meh author, read a lot of his books as a kid because my gf was into him. From what I remember, The Stand and The Long Walk were his best books.
>>9775679
what are some god tier authors? Just started reading regularly. I like Fantasy/Crime/Adventure and all that good stuff. I wanna read The Murder on The Orient Express aswell, I heard thats a good one.
>>9775699
It really depends on what you like. Seeing that you like sci-fi and just generally pulpy stuff, I would recommend reading that and then climbing the latter onto more "literary" stuff. Luckily for you, some God-tier authors and stylists wrote pretty pulpy books.
Dick, Roberto BolaƱo, Thomas Pynchon, Raymond Chandler, Murakami, and DeLillo have writtem some pulpy and/or sci-fi books who are pretty God-tier, although some of them might give you trouble.
Read The Savage Detectives, Hardboiled Wonderland and the End of the World, and most Chandler books and then move on to more complicated stuff like Pynchon. Along the way, you should be able to find more stuff you like by branching out from those.
>finished the Greeks
>have to move onto the boring Christians and self-righteous Middle Ages literature before I get to the Renaissance
Why did we have to lose so much Greek writing?
>finished the Greeks
I don't believe you
I bet you haven't even read half of them
Also you forgot to read the Romans and Roman era Greeks
>>9775568
You ain't finished, kid. Have you read Plotinus? Pindar? Did you even read any of the Romans: Livy, Virgil, Ovid, Cicero, Statius, etc etc? Get back in there frog.
>>9775568
Literature is not some linear progression to be 'completed'. You have played too many videos games.
Close enough
>>9775336
It's good but i think either Corto Maltese,
Sandman or Miller's Daredevil get the cake.
John Barth is the fucking reincarnation of Cervantes
>>9775211
Don't bother, there's only like 3 people here who have read any of his work, and the old-bias here is strong. I agree though, he's one of the best writers of the past 100 years.
>>9775222
what's your favorite work by him? I'm partial to Letters and the Sot Weed Factor
>>9775253
I haven't read LETTERS yet, but The Sot-Weed Factor is one of my favorite novels of all time. I thought Lost in the Funhouse had some of the best short stories I've ever read. I'm working up to LETTERS now, I have a feeling it will be a new favorite.
What are his #2 and #3 if one is mostly interested in studying his prose style? Also not a fan of first person but that appears to have been his go to, womp womp :(
>>9775033
>not a fan of first person
Transparent Things
I hate Nabokov but more to the point why doesn't stuff like that pic get me hard anymore? Age? Marriage? Prozac? Probably all of the above. The fact is you reach a point when it is no longer possible to really believe that you could actually live the fantasy out, then these kind of images just become abstract, like a memory of thirst.
>>9775033
Ada and Pale Fire.
Why do you want to study his prose style, exactly?
are there any even moderately critically well-received novelists who are smoking hot women?
I don't mean odd-looking chicks who can be construed as qt when seen through a certain loving lens. I mean downright hot, swimsuit model tier.
because I want to read her
>>9775011
Arundhati Roy still was in the late '90's when The God of Small Things came out. But she is an old woman now, lad.
me after HRT
There are / have been.
They usually off themselves.
Pic related
Is it me or was his prose somewhat mediocre ? I understand much of his message and philosophy is relevant till today, but I wouldnt really call his writing groundbreaking or anything among those lines
Not mediocre, but dry.
>>9774982
It's workmanlike, which isn't a bad thing
>SEVERIAN GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT
Really, Gene?
>Severian jumps off the spacecraft
>"... [B]ecause I'm floating around in ecstasy so... don't... stop... me... now..."
Really, Gene?
>>9775206
>"Can't stop me nooooow! 'Cause I'm having a goood time here on Yesod's space ship!"
And this is where I decided to never read any Gene Wolfe ever again.
>āThere,ā my priest told me. āThere the other gods sleep.ā
so I finally decided to read Infinite Jest. are there any essential/recommended books/essays to improved the experience?
I have read
>consider the lobster
and plan to read
>authority and american usage
>federer as religious experience
>the depressed person
>the nature of fun
and
>a supposedly fun thing I'll never do again
ps. I am not reading those essays purely to 'prepare' for IJ, but I've been meaning to read at least some of them anyways
as I haven't read all those essays I can't tell for sure, but it seems to me that they are all themes touched in Infinite Jest.
You really don't need to read anything. Maybe Hamlet and some Borges, but it doesn't matter.
>>9774893
you might read Broom or stories from Girl with Curious Hair to see how IJ develops his style/shtick
What's the deal with ebooks and torrenting/downloading?
Just got an ereader and am curious about this. I've gotten a couple letters in the past from my ISP for torrenting other stuff. Question is do publishers actually come after people pirating ebooks as strictly as music/movies? I primarily use libgen and pirate bay. (Forgot to use my vpn so now I'm curious)
imo you are a retard for torrenting books. you can find a regular old download file online for any book without needing to resort to torrenting. why torrent and risk it when you can just find a download without any risk?
>>9774852
>imo you are a retard for torrenting books. you can find a regular old download file online for any book without needing to resort to torrenting. why torrent and risk it when you can just find a download without any risk?
Because all the regular downloads seem to be crap. Unless you can recommend me sites, instead of calling someone a retard immediately.
>>9774868
You can also download books on that site.
This book is better than any novel ever produced by America.
>>9774785
Murrica produced The Bible
Checkmate euroatheist commies
>>9774791
>Mormon detected
I was surprisingly forced to read this book in high school. I thought I was going to hate it when I read it but it actually was pretty dope. Every time I want to chill the fuck out I put my tongue behind the top of my teeth like he describes.
This book was good (I just finished it) but christ it's made me truly depressed... Do you recover from this?
>>9774665
Have it next to me now. About to crack it open. Pretty excited desu. First time reading him.
>>9774665
read another wellbeck
>>9774665
Incredible book, i don't know if I recovered and I read it around a year ago. It was my first Houellebecq, and since then the only other novel of his I've read was Submission. I really enjoyed that too but it seemed stylistically and structurally way to similar to Atomised for my liking. I plan on reading Platform next, i really hope he doesn't turn out to be a one trick pony because Atomised is one of my favorite novels.
>he reads for the prose
at least I can read
i read for fuck