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Hey anons,
which authors of this or the former decade can you recommend when looking for aesthetic value and simply beautiful literature?

Pic related
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A General Theory of Oblivion by Jose Agualusa
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>>9785953
W.G. Sebald
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Silk, Alessandro Baricco
Julien Gracq: Rivage des Syrtes/the Opposing Shore
Hugo von Hofmannsthal: Andreas
Tanizaki: In Praise of Shadows
Beckett: Trilogy
Ligotti (anything, for his prose alone)

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>“Class is fundamentally a legal fiction,” says Marx. The primary theme ofHumphrey’s[1] critique of Foucaultist powerrelations is aneocultural reality.
>Therefore, Prinn[2] states that the works of Smith are reminiscent of Mapplethorpe. The premise of subcultural theory holds that the Constitution is part of the economy of consciousness.
>However, Sontag promotes the use of Sontagist camp to challenge the status quo. If the precultural paradigm of consensus holds, we have to choose between textual predeconstructive theory and cultural rationalism.
>Therefore, the subject is contextualised into a Foucaultist power relations that includes culture as a paradox. Submaterialist textual theory states that sexual identity has significance, given that the premise of Sontagist camp is invalid.
What did he mean by this?
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>>9785928
I was going to make a stupid shitpost about that kid looking like the kind from the grudge and looking like he's drowning... but is he... actually drowning?
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>>9785928

Foucaultist power relations overcomes the idea that power is oppression because even in their most radical form, Foucault views oppressive measures not just as repression and censorship but also as a form of production generating new behaviors, Foucault being less concerned with the oppressive aspect of power but more with the resistance of those the power is extered upon.

As in Foucaultist power relations, power isn't owned but acts and manifests itself more as a strategy rather than a possession, as something which circulates and functions in the form of a chain.

Submaterialists viewed natural phenomena and different bodies caused by the movements and combinations of material atoms, soul also being a perishable matter which doesn't distinguish from body than from the particularities of its atoms.

The primary theme of Humphrey's critique of Foucaultist powerrelations imply novelty within a cultural reality.

The subcultural theory holds that the Constitution is part of the necessity to regulate transitory, materialistic change.

Challenging the status quo holds the premise that the status quo can be challenged to change.

The precultural archetype of consensus implies a correlation of cultural rationalism with textual predeconstruction.

Man is a political animal, says Aristotle. To understand the root cause of the problem, one must return to the source.

Man never steps twice into the same river. Fresh waters are ever flowing into you, says Heraclitus.

The subject held in reference of representation in Foucaultist power relations including culture as a paradox uses an active form of difference, instead of a reference of representation and passive character relative to a contingent judgement of subject.
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>>9786159
One of the best replies to a comment i've read on /lit/ so far. GJ brother. Which university are you from?

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Is there anything more patrician than reading on a plane?
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>>9785892
boogs................ easzy on tha carrits xddddddd
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>>9785901
Excuse me?
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I saw a young lad, possibly eastern European reading an old 19th century leatherbound tome next to me on a plane. Now I have a large collection of vintage books, not for collecting only, for reading, but the way this guy thumbed through it like a pleb was frightening enough but then I realised that all his books were probably like that and that he was doing so because he could afford to...
>Patrician
Let us recall the traditional European aristocratic disdain for bookish learning.

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Alright, truth time motherfuckers.

Nobody can read hardcore lit all the time, and we all like to unwind from time to time. I mean, okay, my mom's ex used to read fucking manuals, and he was the most boring, autistic fuck I ever had the misfortune of meeting. The point is:

Go for it. Post what you read when you read trash books. Post what you read when you want to unwind. Cast off that /lit/ patrician bullshit for a second and admit it.

I'll admit:
when I feel like unwinding I read fanfiction and urban fantasies. I'm even planning on reading a Hellboy novelization. It's gonna be great (I hope).
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>>9785883
Jesus dude. Are you okay?
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>>9785916
I...
I don't know...
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So this is the mind of a pleb...

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Does any of you autists know how to find a pdf of this book without 200 pages of fucking introductions & prefaces?
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You know you can just skip them, right?
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>>9785742
>not reading the introductions and prefaces
What is the point then, its clear that you lack the mental capabilities to read philosophy
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>>9785791
That is not an answer to my question.

>>9785794
>Wanting to read other people's interpretation of a book before the actual book itself.
Also I read this sort of literature while you were in your mothers womb, kid.

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Which modern books would you consider sacred, /lit/? Apart from the Harry Potter series of course.
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Freud, Marx, Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Popper, Durkheim, Weber
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Book of mormon?
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So called Western muthuckin canon

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe

what are some good books on what we think the beliefs of people like the ones who built the above were. also, any good books on early human migration/pre-neolithic stuff? looking less for someone guessing at this and that, and more for someone saying "this is what we know, this is what we don't, here is what it could've been, here is what it couldn't have been, etc."
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>>9785657
bugs.. easy on the carrots
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>>9785657
>>9785657
Maybe a bit too abstract but Cassirer's Language and Myth is very good
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erich von denicken

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Was Hamlet a satire?
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>>9785602
Hamlet is Shakespeare's parody of homo economicus
He rationalises and rationalises and sure, he comes up with some pretty profound insights, but a tonne of people die as a result
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Your life is a satire.
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>>9785607
>homo economicus
Wut. If anything its a parody of just plain old homo sapiens. Nigga saw a ghost of his father and gets all angsty and suicidal about it, he wasnt calculating his taxes

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Just started this. What am in for?
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>>9785499
>fiction
Self-serving shit
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>>9785499
Interracial preteen gangbang.
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>>9785535
Does /lit/ really hate fiction or is it just a meme?

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Where do i start with stoicism?
I need something easy to understand before i get deeper into the heavy hitters...
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>>9785474
Try the stoics.
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>>9785474
This is the perfect moment for me to chime in with everyone's favourite casual /lit/ meme, "start with the Greeks".

HOWEVER

I honestly think with stoicism it's best to start with Marcus Aurelius' "Meditations". There is no better introduction.
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>>9785474
startus with epictetus, if anyone reads aurelius first or thinks of his works as the best of stoicism is a pseud... not even a pseud actually since stoicism can't even pretend to be intecllectual, maybe pseudo pseudo intellectual

there's some good stuff in there though, i got raised by a single mom so stoicism helped me to be a man, but take everything with a grain of salt and don't try to apply the philosophy to everything, I saw posts on reddit of people asking "what would the stoics think about eating meat?" people need to fuck off with that shit, don't read it for deep logical philosophy

also nice reddit meme pic and philosophy choice

/r/stoicism might be a better place for you m'sir

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I want to learn. Charts, tips, recommended books...
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>>9785461
I don't know if there's a chart or anything, but if you want a rundown of some books:

John Yorke's Into The Woods - focuses on character development, structure, theme, dialogue/exposition and uses detailed and accessible examples from British television and Hollywood films. There's some nifty diagrams to help if his writing is a bit dry (which it is at times when he gets into Freud) as well as some screenplay extracts.

Joseph Campbell's The Hero with A Thousand Faces - discover story structure and its origins in ancient mythology and folklore. Although not necessarily a screenwriting book, it offers a lot of insight into how a story can be structured and is cited as an influence from many screenwriters.

Christopher Vogler's The Writer's Journey - Joseph Campbell's discussion of story structure but on a more accessible level.

Robert McKee's Story - take this guy with a pinch of salt because he treats his own teachings like gospel when really he offers some useful knowledge for beginners but don't be afraid to divert away from some of his advice too. Saying that, his notes on structure, characters and visual storytelling will be useful for a newcomer to screenwriting. Also see his newest book, Dialogue: The Art of Verbal Action for Page, Stage and Screen.

David Corbett's The Art of Character - a book focusing solely on developing characters. You don't need to follow it all like a checklist - he says so himself - but if there's anything in here you think will be useful (and it may just be, he covers a variety of topics from early character outlines, intricate personality flaws, psychological make-up of your character, quirks, etc) then it's a worthwhile book. It should be cheap too.

Ones that people often recommend (and although they're useful for beginners, they should really be taken with a grain of salt):
- Syd Field's Screenplay (as well as The Screenwriter's Problem Solver and The Screenwriter's Workbook). He offers simple and accessible ways of understanding how to develop and re-draft a screenplay. His books are usually cheap.
- Blake Snyder's Save The Cat. I want to say avoid this one because it feels very patronising and reads like a snake oil salesman trying to empty your pockets, but if you can find it cheap, you could read it in a day or two. Not particularly useful though unless if you want to write a Transformers movie.

Also check out William Goldman's Secrets of the Screentrade books. Funny, insightful, entertaining.
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op, fuck that first poster. download some software that will show you the formatting. i assume you are well read because you are here and so probably know what a story looks like and have better aesthetic taste than most. now pick your two favorite movies or so, print their scripts and start writing yours using their's as reference.

this kind of this: >>9785734
is how you become a complete faggot

also, you should ask yourself why you want to write a script. if it is because you want to be a screenwriter, just stop. if it is because you want to "work in movies", just save yourself the hassle and don't.
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>>9785751
Rude, dude. Your advice is pretty good though, reading screenplays to understand formatting is useful. However if you have First Draft, formatting becomes pretty easy anyway.

Not sure why reading books for beginners makes you a faggot.

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Most important writer of the last century? I can't think of anyone else who is as influential, not just in literature but a multitude of other artforms.
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>>9785446
yes
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>>9785446
Probably.
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Undoubtedly one of them.

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I want to purchase his New York Trilogy. What am I in for?
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shit
muh serendipity
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>>9785442
>New York Trilogy
It's been 20 years since I read it, but I loved it back then.
>Paul Auster
The traditionalists of /lit/ will tell you that it's pomo trash.
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muh red notebook

So, do I read it or not?
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>>9785426
If you're interested in formal logic, the origin of consciousness, philosophy, and you don't long meandering digressions, then read it.

Otherwise don't.
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>>9785443
>and you don't
and you don't mind*
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>>9785443
Until now I've read only philosophy, literature, and poetry. Does this book will give me some basic knowledge about mathematics/science other than philosophy?

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Name every novel that references pic related. Thank you.
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'Emma'.
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>>9785393
Can someone explain what this chart is trying to show and what the pictures are?
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>>9785478
>>>/r9k/

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